Originally Posted by SAmama
Calm, I was wondering how long you took the Nystatin for. I have one bottle of drops for dd, but nothing for myself and I think I need to work with both of us, not just her. I am actually thinking that I need to get rid of it in myself while I am working on getting her liver in better condition. That way I don't overwhelm her with my die-off the same time as dealing with her own.
Also, why Nystatin and not fluconazole? We cannot find Nystatin here, but can find fluconazole. I know it is absorbed in the blood more and is supposed to deal with systemic issues, so maybe because it will get in my milk? But what about it for dd? I will do more research about it, but wondered if anybody knows something about it. If fluconazole isn't good, then I will just wait until we can get some Nystatin brought in.
Anyway, just wondering about this.
I took it for over a fortnight and the only reason I stopped was because I was doing elimination diets for DS and then we did NAET allergy treatments. I am going back on it soon, when all other treatments are finished. DS was on it for less than a week, but the difference in just that amount of time was quite noticeable. I am REALLY angry that I can't get pure nystatin here (Aust) only the capsules (full of crap) and drops for kids (full of crap including colors and SUGAR! Ridiculous). I have called my chemist and she said to go to a compounding chemist to see if they have the pure stuff, so that's my next move. Otherwise I'm buying it from Canada. I can take the capsules but I'm not keen on DS on those horrible drops.
Fluc. has side effects and also affects certain enzymes functioning as yes, unfortunately it is absorbed. The reason nystatin is the naturopathic choice, even though it is not "natural" is because it isn't absorbed. It is true that it only will treat the digestive tract, BUT, you need to treat that anyway, and then the immune system will have half a chance of fighting it off elsewhere. And the secret to the skin war is that the fight in the gut is what causes the fight elsewhere. Balance the gut and the wars elsewhere cease or slow down.
Systemic candida is what AIDS and cancer patients often die of.
So much for "candida is keeping you healthy".
Systemic candida can be fought off in most of us without such compromised immunity, as soon as the gut is rid of the toxic load of yeast.
The secret to successful use, aside from the use of an antifungal diet, is to take the nystatin and probiotics at the same time.
take nystatin at the same time as antibiotics!)
I started treating DS with probiotics as I knew they are the key to him regaining health, but nothing happened. And this is a common reaction - disappointment with probiotics as we wonder what the rave is all about.
Then I did the nystatin, again, to no avail. What happened there was a miracle, literally overnight. The third day of his trial dosage and I gave him a half a ml of the drops. He screamed for five hours straight about three hours later. He had terrible tummy discomfort. I felt terrible, and didn't do that again, BUT, the next day...His skin cleared, he was laughing and happy, he slept well, he was a new little man.
But I couldn't deal with that die off, I just couldn't do it to him. But I made a stupid error, I didn't give him probiotics. I just killed the yeast. And within a day or two, all the bowel wall was taken up by yeast again, and his skin broke apart again, and the yeast war was again raging on his scalp.
So the lesson in that is what I have since learned in literature and research: probiotics are all but worthless if there is no space on the bowel wall. Nystatin is effective, but yeast will grow back into those spaces if you don't fill them in with good bacteria. So the KEY is to:take nystatin WHILE taking probiotics.
So the yeast die, and in their place go good guys. Following? The other ways just waste time.