Please comment on Susun Weed letter titled "Candida is a helper. It is keeping you healthy!" - Page 2

[wombjuice]

Originally Posted by bluebell

oh i would love to and thanks for the suggestion, but i'm completely grain free. i don't eat any complex carbs/starches because i can't digest them - basically i'm doing gut and pyscology syndrome diet. i really struggle with what to have for breakfast as my blood sugar is still volatile especially in the morning as dd is still night feeding.

Oh man! Sorry about that! Hmm...I have no idea what I'd do in your case! Do you eat nuts and seeds (not sure if, in your case, these count as grains?)? Complex carbs mixed with protein is the only way to keep my blood sugar normal. If I couldn't eat grains at all, hmm...let me think...fruits and eggs? Cottage cheese and berries with sunflower seeds sprinkled on top? Or even try to forget what foods are typically considered "breakfast foods" and make yourself some grilled salmon and steamed veggies, or some chicken breast and salad?

Good luck with your diet and your blood sugar! That sounds very tough.

[bluebell]

feminine_earth - don't be sorry you didn't know! thanks for your help with suggestions. i'm going to look again at the raw food options. i'm still reeling about drinking pau d'arco tea for the past month, feel like i'm going to have to start all over again getting that gut flora back!

[Panserbjorne]

Bluebell, have you tried eggs and fruit? You could even do a custard. Do you think that would work?

[bluebell]

Originally Posted by firefaery

Bluebell, have you tried eggs and fruit? You could even do a custard. Do you think that would work?

yes i've tried the aajonus custard with papaya but that gave my blood sugar a terrible crash, i got really shaky about 1hr later. it is a huge problem, i have raw egg smoothies, with berries, raw cream and butter but it is a bit difficult to get down sometimes! breakfast is a real problem for me and my dd who will only eat a certain gluten free pork sausage. sorry that i've gone off topic.

[suzukiaustin]

Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1

Wow, I am loving all of the comments!
This is what I was hoping to get from posting this letter. I am totally confused about which side is better, but I agree with really following your body on what to do. You see I eat really well, but have bad yeast. I have been taking lots of pau d arco for a while and feel like crap. I quit eating my sourdough bread and let my starter sit in the back of the fridge. Just after reading susuns letter, I quit the pau d arco, right away, the yeast seems better. Strange huh? And I got my starter out of the fridge and am making bread today. I have been praying/meditating on what to do and I feel inspired to de-stress and spend for time outside getting dirty (to get e good dose of soil through my pores). I feel like whatever I was doing for the yeast was not working so I have to try something different. I am a bit nervous to get off of the pau d arco that the yeast will get worse, but it wasn't healing it anyway, so what have I got to loose.

Most of all I am concerned for my 16 month old. She has such bad yeast rashes all over, and our naturopath said the yeast was staying in her liver. That is her weak place since she probably inherited my husbands rare liver disorder. So I think I need to strengthen her liver to fully heal her yeast. But here is a question, is the yeast helping her liver some way?

Bluebirdmama1, I cannot thank you enough for this thread. I simply cannot thank you enough! I'm taking my son to his Waldorf playgroup to play in the dirt and with the guinea pigs...and I WON'T wash his hands afterwards!!

And to all whom have responded, thank you, thank you, thank you for your wisdom, experiences, advice...

I LOVE this board!!!! Yay Traditional Foods!!

Of course, I've got a question. If you are breastfeeding/TTC/pregnant and you can't detox from mercury, what do you do about it?

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by suzukiaustin

Of course, I've got a question. If you are breastfeeding/TTC/pregnant and you can't detox from mercury, what do you do about it?

There are natural ways to remove heavy metal and toxins from your body. Tumeric, clay, and cilantro work. I bet these would remove the metals without going into the breast milk. I just checked out the site www.solutionsie.com, and found they have a product called zeolite. It is supposed to remove heavy metals.

[Gale Force]

Originally Posted by firefaery

and then grease up with coconut oil!!!!

This is starting to sound "R" rated.

[CrunchyFarmGirl]

Bluebell,

I love bacon in the morning. It keeps my blood sugar quite regular for a really long time. I usually have a piece of fruit when I wake up and by the time I'm done cooking the bacon for the kids and my own portion is done, the fruit is out of my stomach.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by Gale Force

This is starting to sound "R" rated.

well, it COULD be....but it also has the benefit of killing yeast and bacteria!

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1

There are natural ways to remove heavy metal and toxins from your body. Tumeric, clay, and cilantro work. I bet these would remove the metals without going into the breast milk. I just checked out the site www.solutionsie.com, and found they have a product called zeolite. It is supposed to remove heavy metals.

They all still do go into breastmilk. You can look into glutathione which would protect the breastmilk by opening detox pathways.

I did use zeolite while pg and breastfeeding, but used glutathione as well.

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by Jaysfamily

The link doesn't work.

Yea, can we get a working link? Please? :

[Metasequoia]

Let's see if this one works. It's from 2002...

[Calm]

garlic kills yeast, not just bacteria.

Edited cos I think I mis read. I thought she was saying candida is beneficial for you and that it cannot spread. Both are untrue. So very untrue. Her advice is great about fermented foods, as they contain yeasts and bacteria in balance, the way the gut should be. But if the intestinal lining, is covered with candida albicans, bacteria cannot find room and hang on, and taking probiotics will be like throwing a bucket of water onto a burning skyscraper.

You need to kill the yeast first. There are many ways to do this. One is fast and painful (die off symptoms hit fast) and that is the bacterium product nystatin. It is not absorbed and therefore prescribed for babies with oral thrush - it is safe. It wipes all those #%##%s out. Then you can repopulate, and they will STICK. Fastest method out there to feeling well.

The other way is to make the colon ACID. Candida like alkaline, and they change the gut pH so that bacteria are uncomfortable and yeasts are having a joyful time. Sauerkraut for instance, by it's third week of fermentation has the lactic acid producing bacterium Lactobacillus living on it. This will shoot acid through the colon, making the yeast uncomfortable and helping lessen the numbers.

Bacteria help us digest, we need much MORE of them than yeast. Plus, yeast can turn fungal when given an opportunity, it's what they do in nature inside and outside the human body. When it goes fungal, you're in trouble. It will break through that thin bowel lining, only one cell thick and travel your body.

Yeasts have terrible chemicals, powerful ones that render the immune system incapable of killing it (they also change their outer protein shell, and fool the system). So yeast is HARD to get rid off, at best most people have temporary relief. It's these chemicals that cause most of the damage. Like depression, etc.

Gotta run, crying baby...

[Calm]

This doctor is brilliant!

Get his book, he is doing amazing things by getting rid of candida, and the medical profession is pretty unhappy with him for it.

[Mamapits]

What Susun wrote really resonates with me.
I have been seeing a nutritionist for the past few months and she is not TF in any way. Every visit we focus on something. First it was food sensitivities, then it was candidia and other funguses. She uses bio feedback. after each session she prescribes about $200 worth of supplements to me. I also see the Chirpracter at the same institution, the wellnes center is his baby, any how he has had me on supplements as well. I can hardly see the kitchen table! it is so full of this crap.

This thread is just a confirmation of what I have been feeling. I need to get my nutrition through my foods. And yes I went ahead and recently bought nettle and oat straw. Wow I had no idea how much calcium is in nettle. I need to start brewing that up. Also the nutritionist had me off of dairy and I have to say that I really feel like I need it, I have been doing some pastured butter and I actually drank milk today ( not raw, I know that is not good but my body wants it) The nutritionist does not do dairy herself and takes calcium supplements.

I go to this dentist who is also an MD. She says don't poison yourself with supplements. She told me to make bone broth if I needed calcium.

She is very against vitamin supplements. Any how, I am rambling, I just am coming to the conclusion that I don't need to waste any more time or money on the nutritionist. I learn more here from you wise ones than the people I have been paying.

Wow, this thread really helped me make the decision. Thanks

[CrunchyFarmGirl]

Originally Posted by Mamapits

Any how, I am rambling, I just am coming to the conclusion that I don't need to waste any more time or money on the nutritionist. I learn more here from you wise ones than the people I have been paying.

I agree, this forum is packed so full of the wisest women I've ever "met". :
Way more knowledge than even the top doctors I've been to.

[Panserbjorne]

Just to be clear in case this was a response to me, I don't mean that it's beneficial and should hang around. I mean that it is attempting to exact a balance and it is HELPFUL to know that things are amiss. It wouldn't be growing and raging out of control in a healthy body. I don't think we should live with candida overgrowth (which I DO believe gets into the organs because I've seen it) but I don't think the focus should be on killing the yeast. That misses the boat. The focus should be (IMO) on understanding WHY it is out of control and dealing with that. It is a very allopathic mindset that compels us to deal only with the presenting symptoms.

I am against most supplementation, unless it is a case of confirmed deficiency which isn't being helped with nutritional intervention. There are instances in which supplements are essential, but that is not the norm and we should not, as a rule, be depending on them.

[Ruthla]

Bluebell- I suggest a high protein breakfast if you're prone to blood sugar crashes. If you eat too many carbs, you'll secrete more insulin, which can lead to another blood sugar crash. Avoid the carbs and you'll keep your blood sugar more stable.

I think what Susan Weed is trying to say is that yeast OVERGROWTH is bad, but yeast itself is part of our normal gut flora. Without yeast, we'd probably have a bacterial overgrowth- they key is BALANCE.

She's saying there's no need to try and kill off all the yeast before repopulating yourself with a healthy balance of yeasts and bacteria. IMO, antifungals are probably a good idea when dealing with an acute infection, but they're not a good longterm strategy when dealing with a chronic or recurrent problem.

Ok, now I want a pickle. That's about the only fermented veggies I currently have on hand, I can't have dairy, and the thought of drinking a glassful of dirt really squicks me out!

[Panserbjorne]

Ruthla-you can buy it! Maybe it would squick you out less if it were in a purty package? Jordan Rubin (Garden of Life) sells it. He calls his dirt, "Primal Defense."

[mbravebird]

Originally Posted by CrunchyFarmGirl

I agree, this forum is packed so full of the wisest women I've ever "met". :
Way more knowledge than even the top doctors I've been to.

I'm sharing the love, you all. I'm so glad for all of you on this forum. It's like having a personal research team.

We could have a yearly meeting and whole discussions/workshops! That would be so fun.