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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Usually I'm fairly private with my kid's non-vax status...not because I'm *ashamed* of my choice, but mostly because I truly don't feel that my kids medical information is anyone's business but mine and my DH's.

Well earlier this summer I had a malfunction of my brain to mouth filter and let it slip to my aunt that we do not vaccinate. She IMMEDIATELY jumps me about this asking if we're going to do school, I say "Well, we're homeschooling, but if we choose to do public school in the future I can get an exemption for the vaccines." (Again, dang that brain to mouth filter!!!). And she makes the comment about putting people at risk and thankfully her kids are older and will not be in school with mine...and if she had kids my age she would be VERY upset to know about their non-vax status (funny my son is 3 years old and has always been non-vaxed but it's just NOW an issue...it's not like drs tattoo "Disease Spreader" on my kids foreheads when I decline vaccines)

Anyway, I pretty much ignored her...as I usually do, she's my uncle's wife. She's a UA Violation and always has been so I just ignore her typically.

Well my grandma calls today to let me know there is going to be a cook out/hay ride deal at my other uncle's farm on Labor Day. Cool...all over it.

Well then she says "Aunt L called...and she's honestly not comfortable with the kids being around Uncle B** (her dh) because they don't have their immunizations...Maybe you should look at getting some of the immunizations." :::

I say "I will not vaccinate my kids because Aunt L is being weird about it. My kids aren't sick so it's not like they're going to give Uncle B mumps just because J hasn't been vaccinated for it."

And she says "Well, I'm just letting you know that Aunt L is pretty upset."

I say "Fine, whatever...I guess if Aunt L doesn't want me to come out to Uncle R and Aunt K's house because of the kids we just won't come."

My Gma says that's not necessary...



I don't know WHAT is going to happen at Thanksgiving/Christmas this year...if I'll have to hear it again about the kids vax status and stuff...Especially Christmas because Christmas is always at Uncle B and Aunt L's house.


**Uncle B is a paraplegic so I can *sort* of understand my aunt wanting to be more careful with his health but this is just silly.

Aunt L and I already went round and round like 2 years or so ago because Uncle B requested I not bf in front of his DS and I posted on my myspace blog that my fam was pissing me off and said "They screwed up their kids their way, it's my turn to screw up my kids my way." This is my usual phrase, I don't mean they 'screwed up' their kids it's just something I've always said...I say to to my mom, my dad, my grandparents, friends, etc...my way of saying "You parent your way, I'll parent mine"

*sigh* Not really seeking advice I guess, just venting...

I'm not going to the Labor day deal, even though my son would LOVE the hay ride And riding the 4 wheeler and playing with his cousins...I just don't want to deal with Aunt L jumping me about vaccines...And I don't want to push my Gma into an early grave with stressing over Aunt L and I fighting, my Gma is 70 years old and in poor health...
post #2 of 14
i'm sorry your family is being sucky!

but i don't understand why people are so worried about the non-vaxed kids anyway. my son is only vaxed up to 6mths. but if i brought him around my nephews (and i do! lol) and they are vaxed, why should anyone worry about them "catching" something??? if vaxes are so wonderful, shouldn't the vaxed people be safe from my non-vaxed kid?! i don't get it.
post #3 of 14


Get that brain to mouth filter back up--"Would you like some bean dip?"

post #4 of 14
I know how you feel. I just recently decided to not go around my dh's step-mother because of her freaking out about vaccines, among other things (like me breastfeeding infront of her). She sent DH a very long message and was VERY rude in it. So yeah, I know where you are coming from.
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post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by JamesMama View Post
And she makes the comment about putting people at risk and thankfully her kids are older and will not be in school with mine...and if she had kids my age she would be VERY upset to know about their non-vax status (funny my son is 3 years old and has always been non-vaxed but it's just NOW an issue...it's not like drs tattoo "Disease Spreader" on my kids foreheads when I decline vaccines)
And does she think there aren't other non-vaxed kids at the school her kids attend? I don't think so. She just doesn't know who they are. I would still go to the family function. I know it's frustrating when people are uninformed but maybe you will have an opportunity to educate her. (Although I know it's hard with some people).
post #6 of 14
I love the ignorance, don't you?!

They are so funny, first they have no idea that vaccines wear off anyway (as if they worked in the first place, but that's another lie they tell)..does she know about viral shedding from some vaccinations (no, of course not!)? So there are tons of adults out there that have (OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOO!!) worn-off- vaccine-ridden bodies and they are EVERYWHERE!

On the other hand, you could just tell a fib and just say they were vaxed....

Sorry to hear people are so misinformed...it's the same way here too, but so far I just keep the details of our status to ourselves. Then when my DS doesn't have any allergies/asthma/autism/other health issues they'll just think he's just SOOO healthy!
post #7 of 14
I can understand your frustration. Kind of hard to teach an old dog new tricks Hopefully it will all work out in the end....
post #8 of 14
I would ask when she had her last MMR and DTaP.
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by JamesMama View Post
Usually I'm fairly private with my kid's non-vax status...not because I'm *ashamed* of my choice, but mostly because I truly don't feel that my kids medical information is anyone's business but mine and my DH's.

Well earlier this summer I had a malfunction of my brain to mouth filter and let it slip to my aunt that we do not vaccinate. She IMMEDIATELY jumps me about this asking if we're going to do school, I say "Well, we're homeschooling, but if we choose to do public school in the future I can get an exemption for the vaccines." (Again, dang that brain to mouth filter!!!). And she makes the comment about putting people at risk and thankfully her kids are older and will not be in school with mine...and if she had kids my age she would be VERY upset to know about their non-vax status (funny my son is 3 years old and has always been non-vaxed but it's just NOW an issue...it's not like drs tattoo "Disease Spreader" on my kids foreheads when I decline vaccines)

Anyway, I pretty much ignored her...as I usually do, she's my uncle's wife. She's a UA Violation and always has been so I just ignore her typically.

Well my grandma calls today to let me know there is going to be a cook out/hay ride deal at my other uncle's farm on Labor Day. Cool...all over it.

Well then she says "Aunt L called...and she's honestly not comfortable with the kids being around Uncle B** (her dh) because they don't have their immunizations...Maybe you should look at getting some of the immunizations." :::

I say "I will not vaccinate my kids because Aunt L is being weird about it. My kids aren't sick so it's not like they're going to give Uncle B mumps just because J hasn't been vaccinated for it."

And she says "Well, I'm just letting you know that Aunt L is pretty upset."

I say "Fine, whatever...I guess if Aunt L doesn't want me to come out to Uncle R and Aunt K's house because of the kids we just won't come."

My Gma says that's not necessary...



I don't know WHAT is going to happen at Thanksgiving/Christmas this year...if I'll have to hear it again about the kids vax status and stuff...Especially Christmas because Christmas is always at Uncle B and Aunt L's house.


**Uncle B is a paraplegic so I can *sort* of understand my aunt wanting to be more careful with his health but this is just silly.

Aunt L and I already went round and round like 2 years or so ago because Uncle B requested I not bf in front of his DS and I posted on my myspace blog that my fam was pissing me off and said "They screwed up their kids their way, it's my turn to screw up my kids my way." This is my usual phrase, I don't mean they 'screwed up' their kids it's just something I've always said...I say to to my mom, my dad, my grandparents, friends, etc...my way of saying "You parent your way, I'll parent mine"

*sigh* Not really seeking advice I guess, just venting...

I'm not going to the Labor day deal, even though my son would LOVE the hay ride And riding the 4 wheeler and playing with his cousins...I just don't want to deal with Aunt L jumping me about vaccines...And I don't want to push my Gma into an early grave with stressing over Aunt L and I fighting, my Gma is 70 years old and in poor health...

I'm sorry.


I have to ask, if she believes they work so well, why would she worry if her kids are around nonvaxed kids?
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by honeybunch2k8 View Post
I have to ask, if she believes they work so well, why would she worry if her kids are around nonvaxed kids?
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If Uncle B is so vulnerable, why doesn't he get the shots?
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
I said something to that effect, if vaccines are so effective no one else needs to worry.

I dunno, I'm going to talk to my dad, he knows I don't vax and supports me...he and my other aunt both support me (my gma had 6 kids)...plus my dad, aunt and I are the 'black sheep' anyway because we don't have a R on our voter registration cards

The whole argument just torks me off. I'm half tempted to say I trump her because I was BORN into this famly, we allow her to join in.
post #12 of 14
Oh my gosh! I am so sorry. I have not read all the replies yet and am in a bit of a rush, but that is AWFUL! Again, I am so sorry.

Just quickly to say that being paraplegic does not necessarily affect your immune system, it affects you motor skills and sensation. I do not know how he became paraplegic, so I cannot comment further. And of course there is the very odd assumption that being unvaccinated equals germ spreader.... I am astounded afresh each time I hear this being used as an argument to separate vaxed and unvaxed children. How can you help people think clearly???

It really really just sounds so tough on you. I would not want to be dealing with these complex family dynamics.

I have a bevy of medical doctors in my family who were downright awful to me until I told them to back off and leave me and my decisions alone.

Will read through the thread and check in later

post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by honeybunch2k8 View Post
I'm sorry.


I have to ask, if she believes they work so well, why would she worry if her kids are around nonvaxed kids?
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post #14 of 14
You can check the CDC site. But, here are the hard numbers for 2006.
This is for the last week of the year..... this is the total amount of
cases reported to the CDC for 2006 in all of the USA.....(copied from another source)

Total reported cases to the CDC:

Disease Cases

Diptheria 0
Measles 51
Mumps 6,439
Rubella 8
Congenital rubella 1
Tetanus 32
Hib (under 5)
Sero b-9
Non sero b-94
Unknown b-230


Out of a population of 295 million people in the United States!!


Here is a link to the 2005 stats, see page #38.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/wk/mm5453.pdf

Or any year you prefer to examine. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/summary.htmlf


Not sure what risks they think there are. Besides, the kids getting live virus vaccines are at risk of sharing the disease with uncle B...


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