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post #21 of 54
Now that I have both a hospital birth and a homebirth under my belt, I can confidently say that there's absolutely no comparison. I wish I had had the courage to homebirth with my first child, it very likely would not have ended in C-section.

This is a decision that only you can make, but I strongly agree with all the other posts on this thread. Do lots of research. Read everything you can get your hands on (and I mean books, not just stories on the internet). Watch The Business Of Being Born. Seek out homebirth midwives in your area and talk to them. Talk to clients they've served before. Having a baby is a huge undertaking, and the choice between hospital and home can drastically affect the overall experience and outcome.
post #22 of 54
Moving this out of UC to Birth and Beyond.
post #23 of 54
I have had two hospital births and two homebirths. The first hospital birth was horrid! The second was unmedicated, and for a hospital birth, great. The first homebirth was about as perfect as you can get. The second homebirth was the hardest of my four, but I am SO glad it was at home.

Yes, it is possible to have a good birth in a hospital. The problems with my good hospital birth were that I was not in my own home, so less comfortable. The hospital staff did not treat me or more importantly my baby with the respect we deserved. At home my child was treated like *gasp* a human being. I did have some things pushed on me at the hospital. With my last birth, I think that even if I had had the support people and midwife that I had at my second birth - I still would have ended up with interventions. The thing for me with the homebirth is that I was the architect of what happened. I wanted to get in the pool - I got in the pool. I didn't want my midwife to check me - she didn't check me. I wanted to be really noisy - not a dang person dared to shush me. I wanted to hold my baby right away - he and she did not leave my side until I was ready. All four of my children needed a bit of help after being born - two needed suctioning and two needed oxygen. At the hospital, my daughter was immediately taken away from me (cord cut of course) and vigorously suctioned (roughly - she was traumatized from it and so was I). At home, my second daughter was very gently suctioned while I held her in my arms. She showed absolutely no signs of trauma. At the hospital, my son needed oxygen and his cord was cut and he was taken away from me and put in the warmer and given oxygen. At home, my other son was placed in my arms and he was given oxygen. It's just a whole different world at the hospital - the environment is different and you just don't know who you are going to get.
post #24 of 54
there are some people (including me) that woudl argue there is NO such thing as a "natural" birth in a hospital. You can have low-intervention, you can deliver vaginally without medication, you can have all your wishes respected, you can have a pleasant, positive birth in a hospital..but "natural"??? NO. Simply going to a foreign place and having people you don't know looking at your wazoo makes the entire experience completely UN natural.
Can you have a GOOD hospital birth?...sure. Lots of moms on here have had them.

IF you want a compeltely low-intervention birth, is it going to be easier to achieve that at home..nearly always.
post #25 of 54
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Originally Posted by milkybean View Post
Do you have your birth stories anywhere? In a former MDC incarnation I was on the ancient judgment thread, and loved reading your words (still do, though I forgot log in, email, and password for my old life).
I don't- for assorted reasons...

Pm me if you're interested and I'll give the brief version


-Angela
post #26 of 54
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Originally Posted by bobandjess99 View Post
there are some people (including me) that woudl argue there is NO such thing as a "natural" birth in a hospital. You can have low-intervention, you can deliver vaginally without medication, you can have all your wishes respected, you can have a pleasant, positive birth in a hospital..but "natural"??? NO. Simply going to a foreign place and having people you don't know looking at your wazoo makes the entire experience completely UN natural.
Can you have a GOOD hospital birth?...sure. Lots of moms on here have had them.

IF you want a compeltely low-intervention birth, is it going to be easier to achieve that at home..nearly always.

Well, thank heavens I don't need to rely on your definition. I had a completely low intervention hospital birth that was not good, but fantastic. It is absolutely possible and attainable if a mom is informed and makes wise choices concerning HCP.

I also wanted to add that hiring amidwife does not always mean your wishesd are going to be respected. No one is perfect. A midwife (such as my first) could be a perfectly lovely, competant practioner, and still do things that you don't care for. Your wishes will not be automatically respected b/c its a homebirth. Mine weren't.
post #27 of 54
I had my first two natural at the hospital. They nurses drove me crazy and thought for sure I wouldn't be able to do natural. One doctor wanted me to be laying down and strapped up the whole time I was looked at like the weird one. I had to fight every step of the way to get what I wanted.

Last one was born at home. Ah, peaceful. I did what I wanted when I wanted. Labored in the water. No exams. No fussing with cords and refusing IV's. My water was allowed to break on its own. My dh and I delivered our baby. The cord wasn't cut until I wanted it to be cut. Everything was about me. Sounds snotty but isn't that what birth is suppose to be. Supporting the mother. I got to keep the placenta which the hospital wouldn't let you, it was considered hazardous waste

I can't stress to you how happy I was at my home birth. Oh I forgot that with my other births I had to fight to have my parents in the room with me. They were freaked out that I wanted my dad in there the whole time. Whatever. At home I had my WHOLE support system. Meant the world to me.
post #28 of 54
DD1's birth was unmedicated in a hosptial. It wasn't too bad as far as hospital births go. But it was a whole different animal then my homebirth.

I was really lucky that I had supportive nurses who didn't push the issue when I declined the IV. My nurses suggested I get into the tub and I made excellent progress there. However when I reached 9cm they made me get out. (In retrospect it might have been the doctor making them do this) When the doctor got there she was really pushy about me getting an IV. I signed an AMA form. My labor stalled when she got there. I had people asking me routine questions during my contractions. One lady was asking me if I had any tattoos while I was groaning and sitting on a birth ball completely buck naked. The Dr. ended up breaking my water, and manually dilating my cervical lip. When I started pushing I couldn't push how I wanted to. They did the inane counting to ten while I was pushing and I started seeing stars because I wasn't getting enough oxygen. So instead of permitting me to breathe when I needed to, they made me get flat on my back and gave me an oxygen mask to use in between contractions. I was yelled at for grunting while pushing. It was really hard to stop and made my pushes less effective when I was worrying about not making noise. I was also told to push through the "ring of fire" I didn't realize until after my homebirth that the ring of fire was me tearing. I got an IV two pushes before she was born that I got after they scared me. I was in total terror when I pushed her out because they scared me so much. Also I was stitched up with an inadequate local. It was a violent athletic event.

My homebirth was the complete opposite. My water broke 36 hours before labor began and I know they would have freaked out about that in the hospital. I could move around as I pleased and nobody forced or coerced me to do anything. My only vaginal exam was the only really painful moment. There was no fear, no "I can't do this" There were no annoying people. I was encouraged to breathe and push as I saw fit. My dh didn't even realize I was pushing until one of my midwives said something like "push how you need to" When I hit the "ring of fire" I stopped pushing on my own and breathed my baby out. I had no more ring of fire when I stopped pushing. I did not tear. My baby wasn't whisked away because she didn't breathe right away. She was still getting oxygen from her cord. My oldest daughter saw her sister being born and it was a beautiful moment. It was not a moment of terrror.
post #29 of 54
I had a natural hospital birth. It was great! My first was epidural, but my 2nd was natural and fantastic. My midwife and a backup midwife were there, and I had no IV no anything, I was free to move and be however I wanted, and delivered on my hands and knees where I was most comfortable. There was no rushing, no pressure and the L&D nurses were so wonderful. Completely peaceful experience, and my midwife respected every one of my wishes and I was only checked at 7 cm when I asked to be. I completely disagree with this stream of thought:

"Originally Posted by bobandjess99
there are some people (including me) that woudl argue there is NO such thing as a "natural" birth in a hospital. You can have low-intervention, you can deliver vaginally without medication, you can have all your wishes respected, you can have a pleasant, positive birth in a hospital..but "natural"??? NO. Simply going to a foreign place and having people you don't know looking at your wazoo makes the entire experience completely UN natural.
Can you have a GOOD hospital birth?...sure. Lots of moms on here have had them. "

There was no one I didnt know looking at my "wazoo" and the place was not foreign, I had been there for my previous birth and many other occasions. The entire experience was NOT completely un natural, for me it was the best choice.
post #30 of 54
I had a natural hospital birth. I'm going to have another in January. In retrospect, I had an amazing birth (though I'm feeling scared and overwhelmed and all kinds of other things right now, but that's another thread.).

My doula was amazing. My midwife was beyond wonderful. I was allowed to birth in the shower, squatting.

My birth plan was on file and followed to perfection. I was able to labor as I wished, which included many hours in a hot shower, and a couple hours rocking in a rocking chair, leaning into the bed.

My suggestion is to tour the hospital you would give birth at if you choose to at a hospital. Ask questions. Find other women who've given birth there and listen to their experiences. Then decide, is this what I want? Or would I be more comfortable birthing in my own home?

I believe it is 100% possible to have the birth you want in a hospital. You just have to go to the right hospital, make sure they know your choices and know what you want and don't want.

I wish you the best of luck!
post #31 of 54
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Originally Posted by grniys View Post
I believe it is 100% possible to have the birth you want in a hospital. You just have to go to the right hospital, make sure they know your choices and know what you want and don't want.
And I would add - make sure you have the right support people with you - people who will fight for you.
post #32 of 54
I must admit, it sure is nice to hear some positive stories about having a "natural" birth in a hospital. I did too - it didn't occur to me that I wouldn't
(was I just lucky?). My nurse even suggested that I take a shower while I was in recovery, and I did. I believe there are many more of us out there...
post #33 of 54
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Originally Posted by Joezmom View Post
I must admit, it sure is nice to hear some positive stories about having a "natural" birth in a hospital. I did too - it didn't occur to me that I wouldn't
(was I just lucky?). My nurse even suggested that I take a shower while I was in recovery, and I did. I believe there are many more of us out there...
I am sure there are. Good for you. Nothing succeeds like success and no one can argue with success.

My only point on any of these threads is that a natural birth, if that is what the mother want, is easier at home. That is all.

Why go to a place to birth if one has to argue with the staff to get the service one wants, one knows this all ahead of time?

Any birth is a reason to celebrate. That is why we have birthdays for the rest of our lives - to celebrate the day we were born.
post #34 of 54
OP - I chime in that it all depends on the hospital and staff with you.

I see that your location is Philadelphia? My first 2 births were in Philly with the Midwives of Delaware County, who are CNMs that work at the Delaware County Hospital (in Lansdowne). I highly recommend that practice, and specifically Becca Choitz. My first birth with 34 hours long, and the midwives AND nursing staff were amazing - super supportive of natural birthing - NEVER brought up medication, induction/Pitocin, IV, internal fetal monitoring, etc. even though I had such a long labor. They had a tub, which though in basically a tiny room that was like a closet, but regardless was HEAVEN to me.

After reading so many other horrible hospital stories, I was very thankful that I went with that practice, as I can definitely imagine another practice being much more impatient.

Oh, and I have also heard good things about the Birth Center in Bryn Mawr, if that is closer to you.

I should say that my second birth was an unintended UC homebirth - I was on the phone with my midwife (from the same practice as #1) and suddenly realized I was pushing! Everything was wonderful with this as well, but I will still say that having lived out both situations, doing much research, I am still more comfortable with a natural childbirth in a hospital!
post #35 of 54
I wanted to chime in as well.

My first totally natural birth was in a hospital. Our midwives met us at the door and I didn't see people I didn't know. No pressure, no anything that I didn't want.

If all had gone well, I might have had my second at home. Unfortunately, for various reasons, I needed to be in the hospital for the second. I got kicked out of the birth center. However, even in a much more medicalized situation - and even with pitocin - I had nothing besides the pitocin (and monitoring) unless you count back massage.

My doula helped us pick both care providers and that was really critical. Doulas are in and out of all the practices. It can really help to find a knowledgeable outsider to give you advice. Maybe also check on Finding Your Tribe?
post #36 of 54
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Originally Posted by mzfern View Post
Welcome to MDC! I recommend reading Jennifer Block's book Pushed. Congratulations on your pregnancy!
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Originally Posted by nurnur View Post
have you seen the business of being born? it's a great movie to show the differences and "politics" of hospital birth vs. homebirth. You can get it on netflix....http://www.thebusinessofbeingborn.com/
I second both of those recommendations.
I've never had a hospital birth, but what I've heard is that, if you want a natural birth in a hospital, you have to fight for it the whole way through. In my homebirth, I didn't have to fight to keep my environment safe. I could just focus on having a baby.
post #37 of 54
I had a great hospital birth. I didn't have to fight anyone, ever. I ate and drank during labor and never had an IV. No one ever even said anything in my presence alluding to the existence of pain meds. My birth plan was followed to the letter. I pushed my baby out on my hands and knees.

My providers were CNMs who had a strong pro-mother, natural-birth philosophy and - this is very important - who were not "supervised" by MDs or required to follow MD orders.
post #38 of 54
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Originally Posted by Vicky P View Post
What is the difference between homebirth and hospital birth in natural way? I heard one thing that if we choose hospital birth even though we already planned to have natural childbirth, nurses or even midwives wouldn't be so patient. they want us to progress as soon as possible, otherwise we would end up c-section? Does this happen a lot? If so, I would rather just plan to have a natural homebirth. Please let me know your thought. Thanks

It's a huge difference! #1 was a hospital birth, #s 2 & 3 were homebirths. Even though #3 was a difficult birth for me, it was so much easier being at home in my own environment. The hospitals in the Philly area are rather medical minded too - most of my doula clients who birth at hospitals have a lot of interventions OR a fight on their hands.
post #39 of 54
I labored wonderfully at home with my first, got to the hospital at 6cm, and my contractions disappeared entirely. All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't get labor started naturally again. Our midwife was relatively patient- we waited for almost eight hours before doing anything (and then she offered to either break my waters or send us home). We did the break waters/pitocin/epidural route and had our son vaginally, but my body just would not labor on it's own in the hospital. Everyone was incredibly respectful and everything that happened was because of OUR choices; we weren't pressured or coerced (well, the OB tried but our CNM ran interference).

Our next son was born, very easily, at home.
post #40 of 54
I haven't read all fo the replies but I have been thinking the same thing lately. I had a natural birth in a hospital with Camryn and it was great. I think it comes down to your choice of care provider. I went with a FP who used to do homebirths and it well known for his natural approach. As such, I had a nurse who was stoked to support a natural mama and I wasn't coerced into anything at all. I was free to labor however I wanted, eat/drink, move around, and was completely "wireless" the whole time. The Epi didn't even come up once much less pitocin or AROM. However, I am the first to admit that my situation is not the norm. I am just a rare good example of a natural hospital birth.

All that being said, I am planning a homebirth for #2. Mostly because, while the birth itself was fine, the drive to the hospital was horrendous, the stay was too long, the postpartum nurses were a PITA and, frankly, the hospital didn't add anything to the situation that I couldn't have gotten at home... it probably took away from the experience more than anything. It was simply unnecessary. Not to mention that I recently found out that my FP doctor is no longer doing births and that just sealed the deal for me. I am not sure what baggage stopped me from considering a homebirth last time but I think I needed to have the confidence boost that came with my first birth in order to commit to a homebirth in the future.

I understand wanting to be in a hospital "just in case" but I liken it to a swimmer jumping into the water with a buoy and an oxygen tank "just in case" he drowns. While he might do just fine, it's bound to slow him down and he certainly won't be able to reach his fullest swimming potential. At least that's how the hospital felt to me... unnecessary and good enough but it could have been better at home.

Best of luck to you.
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