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post #1 of 12
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My DSS was living in our basement from age 18-22, and just moved out last month. He took what he wanted and left the rest. About 90% of it stayed, so DH and I had the honor and privilege of sorting threw the filth. : For the record, DH did most of the cleanup. DH filled the car and went to the dump four times, with huge garbage bags filled with clothes, cans/bottles, broken bits of anything you could imagine, old computes/monitors, stray hardware parts, boxes of papers, books....

I am annoyed about the amount of mess he left behind for us to deal with. But I am SHOCKED about the absolute filth. Beyond nasty, downright unsanitary. Like a lot of moist clothes that had been balled up in various shelves for so many years that it had moulded. Broken glass, decomposed food, spider webs and dead insects everywhere - like even the spider webs were covered in heavy dust, dried turds in 2 areas (like 50 or 100! A rat or mouse?)

OK, I was a teenager once. I was a slob. I am not the neatest person in the world, so I am not phased by clutter, or even a mess. When a room gets dirty or overwhelmingly cluttered, I clean. But this seems really extreme. I wonder how he could have even been comfortable, walking around and living in such filth?

I have a 20mo and a nearly 4 yo and I think "I'm never going to let them get this out of hand." But you know, pre-kids I used to say "My kids are never going to do XYZ" and of course I was talking out of my rear end and had no clue. So maybe I am doing this again? Are teenagers naturally, and normally, this messy? Unrelated to DSS, but two summers ago I went in SIL's teenage daughter's room, and she also had dried food on plates as well as used, open maxi pads, just hanging out on the bookshelf. I was appalled, but now I am thinking this is somehow normal?
post #2 of 12
OMG. Thank goodness the mice and bugs didn't invade your home.
I'd be tempted to send him a bill for the clean up.
FWIW, I've seen people raising small kids in environments worse than you describe. I think some people just don't know how to keep a house.
I thank god every day for how much housework and yard work my parents made me do. I had my own apartment at 17 and knew just what to do to keep it presentable.
I think seeing it and being appropriately horrified is a great motivator for establishing good habits for your children. Your story certainly galvanizes my resolve to continue to teach my kids how to maintain a house.
My 13yo DD could get like this if I let her. We don't allow eating in bedrooms and I've had to teach her about proper disposal of sanitary products.
Messy doesn't bother me as much as dirt and filth.
post #3 of 12
ewwwww.....there is a big difference between messy and nasty. That is nasty. And I don't think that's normal. I'm messy (laundry piled on the table, dishes in the sink and toys all over the car) but I can't imagine living surrounded by rodent feces and spiderwebs.
post #4 of 12
Reading along, I'm thinking, "Broken computers, monitors, no big deal... EWWWW!" Yeah, moldy clothes, decomposing food, animal droppings, unacceptable and not normal, even in slobby-18-to-22 year old young men. Did you never go down there while he was living there? How did it get so bad!?!
post #5 of 12
yuck! and not entirely normal........ who doesn't eventually clean sh*t and dead bugs?!?!?!?
post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by chiromamma View Post
I'd be tempted to send him a bill for the clean up.
My thoughts exactly. Thankfully he is GONE. Call a cleaning service, send him the bill and transform the basement into a home gym with a craft area and ????
post #7 of 12
If I didn't make my 17 yr old ds clean up his room every once in a while I can see it turning into a gross pit.

When he does clean .. . bags of garbage come out of his room, old dishes, the list goes on. I make him clear the floor and vacuum and get all dishes and garbage out of his room. It's still cluttered but I can't handle the garbage and dishes that MUST be cleaned up.
post #8 of 12
If I didn't make my teen deep clean every once in a while, her room would deteriorate to this. She just *doesn't see it*. I don't think there is anything pathological about it; I think it is a combination of being a slob, having a high tolerance for messiness, and not having anyone (parent, roommate, spouse, etc) who is neater riding your a$$. I would probably deteriorate to complete messiness if I didn't have to keep a healthy house for my dh and family!
post #9 of 12
My mom had a teenager staying at her house who's space deteriorated to a mess (at least close) to the proportions of which you describe. We knew she was messy because she grew up with my sisters. Everyone who lives there is messy so it was thought of as no big deal. But everyone was shocked at the extent to which she let her room go. My mom had to throw her bath towels out because of the black mold, dishes sat for months growing science experiments, food in the trash sat for months...
There were no hard feelings but my mom is a pretty zen type person, loves the girl and knew she had been depressed. I don't think I'd have taken it as well
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by anitaj71 View Post
If I didn't make my 17 yr old ds clean up his room every once in a while I can see it turning into a gross pit.

When he does clean .. . bags of garbage come out of his room, old dishes, the list goes on. I make him clear the floor and vacuum and get all dishes and garbage out of his room. It's still cluttered but I can't handle the garbage and dishes that MUST be cleaned up.

LOL My 19 yr old is the sweetest kid, but of all my kids, he's Pigpen. Oh, he keeps his hair and body nice, and wears clean clothes, but you really do not want to see his room. he left the other day for college, and I went in there with him a few days before he left to 'assist' the clean up. He really needed an assit, let me tell you. He was only home for the summer, I cannot imagine what it could like look after 4 yrs.
post #11 of 12
When I was a teenager, I wasn't allowed to leave food in my room. The rules varied over time from "bring the empty plates and wrappers out of the bedroom daily" to "no food in the bedroom at all" depending on how well the first rule was followed.

I was allowed to keep my room cluttered but not filthy- I was naturally clean enough that I didn't want gross trash contents or smelly clothes piling up so I took care of that myself; I'm trying to think what my brother did. I know there were times when we'd find dirty socks under his bed or the sofa, unwashed for months, but there was never anything getting moldy anywhere.

We don't have a big enough house to give any teens their own space to destroy; not even their own bedrooms. I really have no choice but to set limits on cleanliness because I can't just close the door and not see it. Even if I did, I would enforce basic hygeine; emptying trash regularly, no food at all in there if they couldn't return empty dishes daily, etc. Laundry can pile up until they get around to washing it if I can't get to the hamper.
post #12 of 12
Oh Allison, ew! I'm glad your dh is dealing with/dealt with most of the mess. I'm with a lot of pps - I could take clutter but not filth. Turds? Mold? No, sorry, no way no how. My teen is pretty messy, but I make him bring the yuck out of his room on a fairly regular basis. It's still messy (for example, he never hangs or folds his clothes, just keeps them all on the top bunk) but not dirty and to me there is a huge difference.

What are you going to do with the space? Any plans?
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