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post #1 of 11
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I'm going to try my hand at soap making to see if I can get cover our family's needs at less cost than I'm paying for the stuff at the health food store and online.

I'd love to share tips regarding where to get supplies (seeking a cheap stick blender right now) and maybe co-oping some purchases of oils.

-Barbara
post #2 of 11
My mom and I are going to try a batch next month when she gets back from visiting my brother in Texas. I have have a box of lye in my garage and some oils ( lavender and pine) She rendered some fat and its in her freezer. I have a book and a bunch of sites on the internet. I got a stick blender at walmart for cheep and 2 cooking thermometers.

She remembers making soap with her grandmother when she was little
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

re: soap making

Great! I'm headed to Walmart soon to get my stick blender as well. I'm not usually one to shop there but have heard that it will be a good source for a cheap blender. Target wanted $50 and the restaurant supply store on Belair Rd had ones starting at $200. Definitely a huge power tool.

I'm trying to re-activate a Maryland soap makers yahoo list in case you are intersted. The website is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MDSoapandToiletry

-Barbara
post #4 of 11
I'm not back in MD yet, but will be very shortly and would love to join a soap making group (or partnership)! I have all my supplies except I need a new stick blender, and I cannot find lye. I've actually had all my supplies for quite awhile now, but the lye (Red Devil brand 100% lye drain cleaner) that most people used that was very easy to come by is not sold at hardware stores anymore, since it is a meth ingredient. From what I've found, most websites want you to order it in a large quantity, and there is a hefty hazmat fee that UPS adds ($20-$30 on top of shipping). So I'd love to find someone to go in on that with!

I'm joining that Yahoo group, thanks for posting the link Barbara! I'm very excited about making soap in the near future...I've never done anything except melt and pour, so this is a huge deal for me, LOL.
post #5 of 11
I've never made soap before, but this caught my eye. I was wondering though, can't you make soap without the lye? I looked on the internet about it and came up with saponins from plants. Does this not work? Not that I am not completely busy already, but soap making does sound like fun, but lye worries me.
post #6 of 11
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lye in Maryland

Some folks post online that Lowes may carry Roebic (sp?) drain cleaner which they say is 100% lye. I didn't have any luck at the Lowes in White Marsh.

My local non-chain hardware store told me that the Maryland Dept of the Enviroment declared it illegal to sell or even ship lye to Maryland.

I looked further and found it not to be true. There is a law regarding labeling however and my guess is that the hardware store products didn't meet that requiremment. I've just gotten three lye quotes - two would be shipped to me and the other could save shipping for pick up. That one sells a 50 lb plastic bag of lye for the cheapest out of the three quotes but I would only do that amount if I split it with someone and had safe containers to transfer it to.

The most expensive one uses non-childproof 2 lb plastic bottles.

The mid-priced one sells 12 metal cans with pry off lids (similar to paint cans) containing 2 lbs of lye each for about $55 so that is what I am going for. I'm going to save my containers to refill in case I go for the cheapest option in the future. I need to find out if I can store this stuff unopened in my shed - that makes me feel safer in case of a house fire or flood but I don't want it to clump up or anything.

-Barbara
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Originally Posted by Pariah View Post
I'm not back in MD yet, but will be very shortly and would love to join a soap making group (or partnership)! I have all my supplies except I need a new stick blender, and I cannot find lye. I've actually had all my supplies for quite awhile now, but the lye (Red Devil brand 100% lye drain cleaner) that most people used that was very easy to come by is not sold at hardware stores anymore, since it is a meth ingredient. From what I've found, most websites want you to order it in a large quantity, and there is a hefty hazmat fee that UPS adds ($20-$30 on top of shipping). So I'd love to find someone to go in on that with!

I'm joining that Yahoo group, thanks for posting the link Barbara! I'm very excited about making soap in the near future...I've never done anything except melt and pour, so this is a huge deal for me, LOL.
post #7 of 11
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To quote one soapmaking website, "No lye no soap no lye."

The only way to avoid lye is to do melt and pour and they have icky ingredients. I found one company where the ingredients seemed good but the rest weren't. Or, you can do "handmilling" where you take an established bar of real soap, grate it, melt it and add stuff, then re-form it.

-Barbara

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I've never made soap before, but this caught my eye. I was wondering though, can't you make soap without the lye? I looked on the internet about it and came up with saponins from plants. Does this not work? Not that I am not completely busy already, but soap making does sound like fun, but lye worries me.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by womancaredoula View Post

The mid-priced one sells 12 metal cans with pry off lids (similar to paint cans) containing 2 lbs of lye each for about $55 so that is what I am going for. I'm going to save my containers to refill in case I go for the cheapest option in the future. I need to find out if I can store this stuff unopened in my shed - that makes me feel safer in case of a house fire or flood but I don't want it to clump up or anything.

-Barbara
I would not store it unopened. Lye is pretty difficult to clean up because it is very tiny balls that are static prone. That means they sort of "fly" across a counter.
post #9 of 11
I used to make soap, but then the state of Pa in their infinite wisdom got rid of red devil lye from the supermarkets..supposedly meth labs use the stuff.
post #10 of 11
Yeah, I don't want the melt and pour.

womancaredoula, there is a Lowe's and a Home Depot both right near me...I will check there for that brand of drain cleaner. I will let you know if I can find it. If not, would you want to split the 12 can/$55 order at one point? I can't do it at the moment (we just moved this past weekend, I'm in northern VA at the moment while DH is interviewing for jobs all in lots of places between DC and Baltimore), but I can in the near future.

Where in MD are you exactly? If I can find the stuff at Lowe's here, I wouldn't mind meeting up with you somewhere to deliver some if that would be a cheaper option for you.
post #11 of 11
I found this info for making soap without lye:

Ingredients: Soapwort, oatmeal and fragrance of choice (vanilla extract, lemon juice, orange peel, etc-whatever you want the soap to smell like) Recipe: cook the soapwort in water to extract the saponins. Boiling is not desirable, as saponins can be destroyed by excessive heat. When they come out, they should float on the water and they should be sudsy, so you'll recognize it. Harvest the saponins, by scooping the suds out with a dipper or large spoon and place the suds into a container by themselves. You should eventually be able to tell how much you need. Trial and error will show the way. Next, mix your flavoring/scent into the saponin/suds container. Then add your oatmeal. Add water if the mix is too dry immediately. You could also use cornstarch or flour for this instead of oatmeal. Finally, take the entire mixture and place it into molds, the size and shape you want your soap to be. you can leave these in the sun to dry or bake them overnight at low heat or, just set them in a warm, dry place, where children and pests can't get to them. When these items are dry, you have soap. Some people on here have said that "real" soap requires lye, but the only definition of soap is that it is a substance used for cleaning. Saponins might form the scientific definition, but lye is not a saponin, so it has no real value in soap and being caustic, it is probably best avoided. (10/25/2007)
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