What is with all the vax articales all over the media?

[T&D2005]

Is it because it's back to school time aka let's vaccinate up to date for school season? Every day there is a new article that puts non-vaxers down. I used to be able to block it out and ignore the ignorance in the articles but now it's starting to get to me. I don't watch TV anymore so I can avoid all the negativity (someone shot here, someone abducted there, 400 accidents blah blah..) Now, it's on my home page- ahh!

I'm not sure if this article is in another post but this is the latest one today that got me going..
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26269069


My son is in a few playgroups where the topic had come up and I'm quiet knowing they are mainstream moms.. I don't ever want my kid to feel "different" because of my informed decision. I can't stand how people want to know my son's vax (medical) history.. I guess we should all walk around with a sign stating what disease we have or had- I bet that would shut some people up .

[T&D2005]

Don't mind the incorrect spelling I caught after I hit submit

[Zamber]

It is ticking me off as well. Worse, I live with folks that are pro vax, and while they don't dare lecture my husband and I (we stated up front that it was not up for debate before we moved here), I hear the conversations they have on the phone with others about how it is crazy in this day in age to not vax, etc.

I chalk it up to the fact that more and more people are losing the sheep mentality, and they (government, big pharma, etc) don't like it that folks are questioning things. JMHO

[loveyourohana]

I don't know... but if vaccinations worked as well as everyone believes they do... then what is the worry?

I am vaccinated, and have a lot of friends who are unvaccinated. Not to mention the fact that most adults are unvaccinated as well, considering vaccinations don't give life immunity.

I don't get it?

[mamajjr]

I think the CDC is using our tax dollars to do damage control. With the recent Gardasil deaths/reactions and the mercury link to autisim, they have to help "herd the sheep back in" so to speak. You will never see mainstream media report the other side----non-vaxers. I think the government has to start placing blame and make non-vaxing parents look irresponsible. Big Pharma supports a lot of the networks that run these articles.

[benjamins mommy]

I'd like to know what all the talk is about vaccinations also. Not because I don't vax, but because I don't know why people do or don't vaccinate. I'm a young, first time, new mom and since I've joined the forum I've read that alot of people are against vax, why? Should I be too? Anyone have any details for me, I'd love to know the pro's and con's of both sides.

[T&D2005]

Originally Posted by benjamins mommy

I'd like to know what all the talk is about vaccinations also. Not because I don't vax, but because I don't know why people do or don't vaccinate. I'm a young, first time, new mom and since I've joined the forum I've read that alot of people are against vax, why? Should I be too? Anyone have any details for me, I'd love to know the pro's and con's of both sides.

I was mainstream until my son was born and they wanted to jab him with the Hep B at birth- I said no way he is too young then I started my research. I have now done a 180. My research was fueled by my DH's medical records (his parents had a copy from his birth-age 13 I believe) and as I flipped though, I saw he had a severe reaction to the DTP(the one from the 70's) and MMR. I used this board to supplement what I learned. I checked out books at the library ect ect.. With the incidence of childhood cancers and diseases on the rise, it makes you wonder what is causing it. I don't think it's the vaccines by itself. I think it is a combination of things and until there are LONG term studies done by a control group I select, I won't ever believe what some agencies put out there...

[mamajjr]

There is a ton of research out there to understand why parents do or do not vaccinate. Start off by reading the package inserts, not the CDC sheets but the actual inserts that come with the vaccines. Your doctor has them or you may be able to get them online. After reading those, you will not want to put the ingredients in your child. Question your doctor about the vaccines. Chances are he/she has no clue what is in them but gives the standard answer that they are perfectly safe. See if your physician will sign a statement indicating that the vaccination is safe and that your child will not suffer a reaction, guaranteed they won't sign it. You can also check out the VAERS system to look at reported reactions. Unfortunately, most reactions are never reported.

Some do not vaccinate for religious reason, i.e, many of the vaccines contain aborted fetal tissue, pig blood, etc. Even though mercury has supposedly been removed, if the contents are low enought, the manufacturer does not have to indicate that the toxin is still in the mixture.

Many don't vaccinate because of personal or known injury. I think the risk is too great to inject my children.

[llamalluv]

Look at your calendar! It's back to school season!

[septemberbaby68]

please please. let me know

I have never seen this forum before, I get sick everytime I have had to take my five month old for her shots so far. She had a reaction at the four month shots. and I am starting to get my self all worked up over the six month check up and her having to get these. The only reason I have put up with it, is because I thought she could not get into school with out them. How do I get around that????????

[LavenderMae]

Originally Posted by septemberbaby68

I have never seen this forum before, I get sick everytime I have had to take my five month old for her shots so far. She had a reaction at the four month shots. and I am starting to get my self all worked up over the six month check up and her having to get these. The only reason I have put up with it, is because I thought she could not get into school with out them. How do I get around that????????

Every state has vaccine exemptions that you can get from your local health department. I would discontinue vaccinating and research. Then you can make an informed decision. This forum has a lot of information and this blog is wonderful http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/.

[mamajjr]

Originally Posted by septemberbaby68

I have never seen this forum before, I get sick everytime I have had to take my five month old for her shots so far. She had a reaction at the four month shots. and I am starting to get my self all worked up over the six month check up and her having to get these. The only reason I have put up with it, is because I thought she could not get into school with out them. How do I get around that????????

You live in PA, there is a religious exemption. Check out http://www.909shot.com/state-site/Pennsylvania.htm. Also read your state's statutes regarding vaccination, many states require less than what the CDC recommends. There is a sincere difference between what is recommended and required in most states.

If your child had a reaction....maybe you should stop. Your child can get into school with an exemption. If you choose to continue vaccinating---which I don't recommend, space them out. Ask your doctor to order individual vials (seperate Measles, Mumps, and Rubella) so you know what caused the reaction. You should also report your child's reaction to the VAERS system (http://vaers.hhs.gov/) and to your doctor so it is on file should you need to take action. Good luck with your decision.

[chaoticzenmom]

Originally Posted by mamajjr

I think the CDC is using our tax dollars to do damage control. With the recent Gardasil deaths/reactions and the mercury link to autisim, they have to help "herd the sheep back in" so to speak. You will never see mainstream media report the other side----non-vaxers. I think the government has to start placing blame and make non-vaxing parents look irresponsible. Big Pharma supports a lot of the networks that run these articles.

Yep, herding people back in is exactly what they're trying to do.

It's pushing me to become more of an activist though. I'm using my myspace to educate and am about to get a free thinktwice bumpersticker to put on my minivan.

I'd also like to find ways to educate poeple about how the cdc is so wrapped up in big pharma and medical school training. People need to know this! The information is tricky to get, but I've seen articles on it before.

I'm getting more and more furious at the attempts to make non-vaxers out to be ignorant. I hate bumper stickers, but it's about time to start putting faces to the non-vaxers. They need to see that we have healthy children, drive nice cars, have educations, have friends, buy healthy foods, etc. We're not some backwoods conspiracy theorists believing everything we get "off the internet." They need to see us and see that we're normal people just like them. People also need to know the real reasons that we don't vax. Autism is only a very small part of it, but it's what they concentrate on all the time. Autism isn't the reason I don't vax!!! Chronic disease is the reason I don't vax. Taking a class on Genetics and having to write a paper on how chronic diseases on a certain gene are triggered really opened my eyes to how vax's cause these chronic autoimmune diseases.

It's hard to inform scared people.
Lisa

[honeybunch2k8]

Originally Posted by benjamins mommy

I'd like to know what all the talk is about vaccinations also. Not because I don't vax, but because I don't know why people do or don't vaccinate. I'm a young, first time, new mom and since I've joined the forum I've read that alot of people are against vax, why? Should I be too? Anyone have any details for me, I'd love to know the pro's and con's of both sides.

Though unfortunately, I don't have any kids, one thing that turns me off is that they over vax kids. They use fear as an instrument. I dont mean fear that is justified, I mean fear of the generally benign. Things that were once harmless, benign childhood diseases turn in to deadly epidemics when there's a vaccine and companies and I supppose the government too start the propaganda.. One example is chicken pox. I think the mere existence of a vaccine leads *some* people to think that the disease must be horrible if there's a vax for it.

Not to mention that I think vaxing an infant or someone who cannot say what is wrong with them if something goes awry is a bit.

One thing that turns me off is that there is no lifetime immunity.

I'm new to the vax issue too, but I just wanted to say that much.

[T&D2005]

Originally Posted by septemberbaby68

I have never seen this forum before, I get sick everytime I have had to take my five month old for her shots so far. She had a reaction at the four month shots. and I am starting to get my self all worked up over the six month check up and her having to get these. The only reason I have put up with it, is because I thought she could not get into school with out them. How do I get around that????????

As with other have said, be prepared to hear your doctor tell you they can no longer have you as a patient if you don't do it. It's kind of like getting "thrown out" of the office but without everyone knowing. Shop around for a new doctor *just in case* and find one who supports no or selectively vaccinating. My first step would be to call the current office and pretend to be a new pt and ask if they accept no vax or selectively vax patients. Every place says MANDATORY vaccines or else.. they never mention the alternative. I think only 2 states have medical expemtions only~ the rest have either 1 or 2 more types of exemptions!

[avendesora]

But another msnbc one!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26291109

It actually seems to be pretty balanced. I was surprised.

Aven

[lovin'leo]

I think they're scared since the number of non-vaxers is increasing and more & more people are at least questioning. They hope the more they can make it seem like we're nuts or stupid or uneducated, the more likely anyone who is questioning will just fall in line. Who wants to be one of *those* horrible non-vaxxers who get their kids kicked out playgroups & have to homeschool?

[ZenMamaJen]

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[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by llamalluv

Look at your calendar! It's back to school season!

Yes, but someone is orchestrating the placing of these articles, and I am sure there is a large PR agency behind it all. I used to be a PR person for one of the major pharmaceutical companies.

[spero]

Originally Posted by LavenderMae

Every state has vaccine exemptions that you can get from your local health department.

Originally Posted by T&D2005

I think only 2 states have medical expemtions only

Yes, just wanted to point out to those who are unfamiliar with exemptions - WV and MS offer medical exemption only. Medical exemptions MUST come from a doctor, and they only apply to vaccines which are known to be a problem for an individual child. You cannot use medical exemption to refuse all required vaccines.

All other states in the US offer Religious and/or Philosophical exemptions. The ease of getting an exemption often depends on the state - some are notoriously difficult while in other states you simply sign a card or a form claiming exemption. In many states, religious exemption is all or nothing; and if you selectively vaccinate, you must be very careful and opt out of the state vaccine registry if possible.

Public schools, and daycares and other schools that accept any kind of gov't funding must take exemptions - however, in the case of religious exemption they can question your sincerity and deny your exemption if they find "evidence" to do so.

Private schools and daycares can refuse exemptions if they do not accept any state/federal funding.