~* June 2007 Moms * September *~ - Page 5

[gypsyhips26]

hi there mamas:

i'm just loving reading all these posts about climbing, walking & talking....it really is such a fun and funny age. i know what you mean about your heart just melting when you hear your LO says mama in that special little way....(my Ds says it like: mum-ma with this little lilting intonnation...its so cute)

aside from DS running & climbing, we are enjoying yet another set of teeth (bottom molars) its so FUN! and I'm wondering if all this drawn out teething is giving him another cold and now he has this weird little rash on his bottom, closer to his thighs-maybe teething related, but I also noticed the rash on his feet as well, it almost looks like warts (teeny-tiny ones) yikes! can they get warts this young? shoot-I hope not.....ok off to prepare lunch & such for tomorrow.....

[BarefootScientist]

momtokay- It seems like you already got your reassurance, but I wanted to chip in to say that my DS is also tiny! I had no idea so many of you had tiny babies as well. He was just over 18 lbs. at his 12-month checkup and we haven't had him weighed since then. His six-month clothes are too tight now but he still easily fits 9 and 12 month clothes.

Oh, for anyone who knows...the ped. says that his 18lb. weight at 12 months was I think 3rd percentile...does anyone know if that would be using the bf charts or the formula charts? Thanks.

[Jilian]

Originally Posted by BarefootScientist

Oh, for anyone who knows...the ped. says that his 18lb. weight at 12 months was I think 3rd percentile...does anyone know if that would be using the bf charts or the formula charts? Thanks.

I'm pretty positive that is using the BF charts. Here are the BF growth charts from kellymom: http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns...wthcharts.html

[Mab]

Originally Posted by BarefootScientist

momtokay- It seems like you already got your reassurance, but I wanted to chip in to say that my DS is also tiny!

i came to catch up and i wanted to add the same , momtokay ! Caetano is also a tiny baby, as his older brother. we don't do monthly well-baby check ups (i hate how they can make one self doubt), but last time i weighed him for fun at a friend's, he was around 9 kgs (18 lbs give or take), he is 14 months. He still uses his 6-9-clothes just fine. Ds1, who is 5 and a half, can still use clothes he has from when he was 2 or 3. they are short at his ankle so hi likes to use them as capris , but the shirts are ok: he is slender and strong, but with a tiny waist and tiny butt. caetano has just the same body. i just at some point assumed my boys are this way, slender breastfed, healthy eating kids

[Mab]

Originally Posted by momtokay

Okay, it's my turn to need some advice or reassurance. I pulled out all of our 12-18 mos size fall stuff and most of it is too big on Lucy. She's very petite (~18.5-lbs and ~30") and while that generally doesn't bother me one bit, I'm feeling somewhat concerned about it today. Even with her cloth diapers she can't hold up most of the pants. She doesn't look skinny to me, though I will admit she does look skinnier than most other toddlers we see. She was my biggest baby at birth and has only put on around 10-lbs in the 15-months since then. She often eats more than my 5yo, has hit all her milestones just fine, is very active (see my post above about her climbing out of her crib), and seems healthy (well she has a cold right now, but in general seems healthy). I guess having the clothes all be big on her really drove home the fact that she's pretty small for a 15-month old. Anyone BTDT or have any stories/links to help me relax?!? Or is this something I should be concerned about?

TIA!!

One more thing i wanted to add for you for reassurence , momtokay: : ds also eats lots and his only chubby-ness is provided by his cloth diapers once they are out you see his petite self. I also don't see him as skinny, but 2 other toddlers who are around our waldorf kinder (younger siblings to ds1's classmates) are the same age and bigger and...sturdier...iykwim. and altough ds is petite and doesn't walk yet, you can see him as a healthy child, as i'm sure yours is.

[Jilian]

Another bit of good news: Evan is no longer delayed! He had an OT appointment on Friday and the therapist discharged him She saw him running while holding a big ball and said "he doesn't need my services anymore" We're also doing our first heart walk for the American Heart Association in 2 more weeks. I'm excited!

[momtokay]

Originally Posted by Jilian

Another bit of good news: Evan is no longer delayed!

Hooray!!! That's fabulous news!!

And thanks to everyone for your feedback about my petite girl. I'm so glad she's not alone!!

[wombatclay]

Yay Evan! Huzzah! :

[puddle]

Wonderful news, Jillian!! :

[ramona.cc]

I'm new to the forum, but my Junebug is cutting his bottom molars now. Hopefully they'll pop through soon cuz he is in agony. But anyway, I love autumn. We live in mid-US and right now it's still getting 75-80 during the day but in the evening it's getting down to 55-60. So we're in that transitional mode, and it sucks because all of my 3 y/o's winter clothes are somehow all too small now. imagine that...

[ramona.cc]

Originally Posted by Mab

One more thing i wanted to add for you for reassurence , momtokay: : ds also eats lots and his only chubby-ness is provided by his cloth diapers once they are out you see his petite self. I also don't see him as skinny, but 2 other toddlers who are around our waldorf kinder (younger siblings to ds1's classmates) are the same age and bigger and...sturdier...iykwim. and altough ds is petite and doesn't walk yet, you can see him as a healthy child, as i'm sure yours is.

I don't think she is too small. My DS at 15 months was 30.5 in and 23lbs. So she is on the lighter side, but not too drastically.

[wombatclay]

We have a dr appointment on Thursday so I'll have "official" height/weight then.

Welcome Ramona! Glad you found us!

My brain is total mush so please forgive if I asked this a page ago but... now that it's getting chilly Ro is having her Raynauds-like attacks again. I know the dr wont officially say Raynauds (she's "too young") but any ideas? I've got her dressed in layers (socks, hugalugs, pants, slippers from the waist down and onsie, long sleeve shirt, vest on the upper end) but her hands and feet are still purple freeze pops with the red/blue discoloration going up her arms to her elbows.

This only happened 1-2 times over the summer (but now happens off and on all day) and her blood oxygen levels were fine the one time we checked... so I'm pretty sure it's not her heart/lungs. But this kiddo hates clothing, hates having things on her feet, hates having her hands covered, hates hats with a passion...

Help! Any ideas for keeping her warm?

[Jilian]

Welcome Ramona!

Clay, will massage help with the circulation? Is it a bad circulation issue? The discoloring makes it sound like it is, but I'm not familiar with Raynauds. You can tell if her oxygen level is good by looking at her fingernails and toenails - if they are blue there is poor oxygen. Especially the toes since they are furthest point from the heart. Will she let you wrap her in a warm blanket for snuggles? Will she keep a warmed rice pack on her for a few mins? Does she like warm baths (but then she may get cold again when getting out). Will she wear a bathrobe?

Its funny because Evan is the complete opposite - he's hot and sweaty all the time. He rarely ever wears clothes. Its gotten to the point that when I have to dress him he hates to wear clothes and tries to take them off. I feel like I'm destined to have a nudist child. I hear its normal in heart babies but his sweatiness sometimes worries me. He gets extremely clammy.

[wombatclay]

Raynauds is an innapropriately strong reaction to cold or to a change in temperature. So where a normal person might have a specific cold reaction when they walk into a store freezer room (blood flow reduced to extremities, hands/feet turn icy/purple, nose, ears, even nipples chilled/discolored, tingly pain in those areas when bloodflow is normalized), a person with Raynauds might have the same level of reaction by just standing in front of their open fridge. Change in temp is a common trigger... air conditioning, grocery store freezer aisle, etc... as well as general cold temps.

Ro loves hot baths and I do snuggle her into a bath for 20 or so minutes each night, and then as quickly as possible into warmed footie jammies and a blanket, it's more her day to day activities that I can't figure out. The general advice is for Raynauds kiddos to wear gloves and carry hot packs in their shoes/pockets and biofeedback is a common treatment to help them regulate blood flow to the hands/feet but she's too young/not verbal enough. I can keep her core toasty with layers but for example she's on my lap right now and her belly/core (under her wool sweater and cotton onsie) is damp/sweaty but her hands are ice cubes. It's 57 degrees right now in here and she seems to react as soon as the temp drops below the mid/lower 60s. Our heat comes from a wood stove and right now the temps just wont support the stove...

Funny about Evan being a nekkid kiddo too! DD1 loves wearing clothes... layer upon layer upon layer. She isn't cold, she just likes clothes! And here is dd2, actually needing clothing, and she's the run nekkid through the woods babe. The bathrobe is a good idea... maybe a sort of kimono like thing would amuse her?

[willoLevin]

A. got his second vaccination today. We did one dose of Polio last month, and our first dose of DTaP today. (We're not 100% anti-vax, but we do delay starting and avoid most of the optional ones.) He did fine, and seems completely normal and active right now, so here's hoping he doesn't have any unpleasant reactions later on.

On clothing, warmth, & nudism:
A. prefers to be naked. He's learned to remove his own diaper (velcro AND snap versions) and undo zippers already. S. certainly wasn't into those actions at this age. A. also loves to bathe, which his brother did/does despise. He never seems to feel the cold. He can't sleep covered up at all, and seems aggravated by even having feet on his pj's.

Would something really lightweight like silk long underwear help keep Ro dressed? That feels as much like naked skin as anything can, IMHO. (I just splurged on silk longies for S. as he needs to be dressed warmly for Waldorf school, and now he loves them and wants to wear them as jammies as well as under his clothes no matter how warm it is. ) Silk also won't hang up on other layers of clothing so she'd feel more free, I'd think.

www.wintersilks.com only goes down to an XXS (probably 2/3?) but I KNOW I just saw baby silk somewhere... (Quick web search...) Ah yes! Lands' End has down to a 2T. I'm debating getting a pair for A., too, though he tends to be a hot little guy so I'm inclined not to spend the money. ($19.50 each for top and pants! WinterSilks were $17.95/piece but buy 2 or more for 16.95 each.)
www.campmor.com is also worth checking but I've never seen silk below size 4 there, though they always have some of the modern performance fabrics in toddler/infant sizes...

And as for the rest of my life:
Driving to school continues to kick my butt. I'd never survive living in California where people drive everywhere. I *THINK* that, by next week, I've got someone willing to take S. Monday and Tuesday mornings, then a different mom bringing him home Wednesday at noon. If I can find someone to bring him home Thursday at noontime, I'll only have to drive to school once each day. Phew!

My mom is en route from Oregon right now. She'll be horrified by my mess (as usual), but it'll be good to have the company again.

--willo

[puffingirl]

WTG, Evan! That's such good news!

Wish I had something useful to suggest about Ro--I get cold hands and feet all winter but nothing like what she's dealing with. Hope there are some good suggestions out there!

Tonight I began my nearly 2 week adventure as solo parent. DH is on a work trip overseas until early October. Ugh. Of course we didn't start off so well. He left at dinner time to get to the airport for his night flight so we went outside to wave goodbye before dessert and then came back in to have applesauce. I was feeling sad and lonely so decided to get a bowl for myself and had the idea to jazz them up with a sprinkle of cinnamon. You can see where this is going....Not 15 minutes later, DD has this horrible red rash on her face and I'm freaking out thinking about what a terrible mother I am since I'll probably have to take her to the hospital for an allergy attack on my first night with her. But thanks to the almighty Google, I learned that cinnamon is a very common irritant/allergy. The rash subsided in about 45 minutes, thankfully and she didn't seem to have any breathing problems or anything and I know she's eaten it baked in other things before without a problem. Still scared the pants off me though. : Wish us luck with the next couple of weeks!

[herbmama3-7]

Wombat, poor Ro...I grew up suffering from Reynods, I have aweful vivid memories of christmas tree hunting and screaming in agony in the car becuse we were outside for too long and I just couldn't get my hands and feet to warm up. My hands and feet had a tendancy to sweat and freeze at the same time, it was like a double wammy. My best advice is to try to keep her extremities dry and well circulated. I learned to move my fingers and toes constantly to keep the blood moving. At her age that could be hard. I would suggest adding things to her diet that naturally gets the blood moving, such as cinnamon, and ginger. Warm tea and soups with natural PITA enducing properties. I had it pretty bad but grew out of it around 18 yrs old. It still rears it's ugly head every now and then but nothing like it was. I am sorry you are dealing with this, maybe naturopath or herbalist could help. Or accupuncture, is there such thing as baby accupuncture?

[erratum]

Hi. I'm pretty new to MDC and brand new to the June 2007 board.
My guy....we call him "The Great Orator." He only has a handful of real words, but he gives these 2 or 3 minute long "gibberish addresses", often times waving some sort of stick-like object for emphasis. (anyone else's kid have an affinity for sharp pointy things: spoons, drumsticks, brooms, mops, kitchen utensils of every kind?)
He knows about 35 signs, but as far as actual words go, he says "pants" in a funny voice (that's papa's doing), meow-meow & woof-woof for their respective animals, a noise like "hello" when he hears a phone, and "Uh-Oh, Spaghetti-O's"
but it reminds me of the monster in that movie Young Frankenstein singing "Puttin' on the Ritz."
no molars yet, but I can relate to the weight concerns, as Sebastian was always a tank -- topping the charts in the 90th% -- and suddenly he just stalled out once he started walking/crawling. Now that he's growing up instead of out, he's wearing clothes that he already outgrew (if that makes any sense.)
I can also relate to the having a little heater for a baby. That kid has the sweatiest feet! He's also picky about his clothes. He hates long sleaves, blankets, and anything clingy. Makes co-sleeping tough. (Burrrrrrr!
Oh, yeah: Autumn rocks! You can break out all the great cool weather accessories (scarves, hats, and whatnot.) but, unlike winter, they aren't necessary for your survival!
plus pumpkin anything is great!

[BarefootScientist]

(anyone else's kid have an affinity for sharp pointy things: spoons, drumsticks, brooms, mops, kitchen utensils of every kind?)

Oh yes. Mine does. He has a little baby-sized butter knife that he tries to stab things with...

Wombat, I can't think of any other suggestions for you other than maybe trying to find a way to increase the temp in your house. I feel very sorry for Ro. I don't think I have Reynauds but I've always told everyone I have poor circulation or something because everyone else will be fine and I have to sit on my feet or put my hands in my bra because I am so freezing cold!! : At 57 degrees indoors I would be suffering.

[Jilian]

Puffin: I'm glad Joy is ok. That must have been scary. I hope things are easy for you while your DH is away.

Welcome Erratum! Glad you found us!