The Power of Probiotics - Page 23

[moneca]

Ilovelife,
Somewhere in all these pages is the story of goodpapa's wife having BV. He gave her yoghurt douches. If you can't find the post I would pm him. He is VERY helpful and generous with his wisdom.

Peace,

[Ilovelife]

Thanks, moneca! I was able to find the post and see that they were using the yogurt during pg, too. I think I will go that route to see if it helps.

[Aquaduct]

Actually I technically speaking didn't have any side-effects from taking flagyll. I never did have a nervous breakdown when on the 5 day course of flagyll. I simply felt like I was on the verge. Western medicine is very poor at picking up on mental effects. I have little doubt I was emotionally affected because of the drugs deletorious effects on the liver. The prescribing doctor hinted that many people who take flagyll don't last the full 5 days, I suspect because of the aforementioned affects. Good luck.

If you want to know how to use things like oregano oil you'll have to read the rest of this thread. I think it was on page 18 or thereabouts.

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by greencat

CHECK THIS OUT!!!

Simple Home Candida Test:

Try this simple test to see if you have a candida yeast infection.
First thing in the morning, before you put ANYTHING in your mouth, get
a clear glass. Fill with water and work up a bit of saliva, then spit
it into the glass of water. Check the water every 15 minutes or so for
up to one hour. If you have a yeast infection, you will see strings
(like legs) traveling down into the water from the saliva floating on
the top, or "cloudy" saliva will sink to the bottom of the glass, or
cloudy specks will seem to be suspended in the water.

If there are no stings and the saliva is still floating after at least
one hour, you are probably yeast infection free. ThreeLac could then
be used to maintain good bowel flora and proper pH, and prevent a
yeast infection from coming back as we are always exposed to things
that may cause it to come back.

Most people fail the test. I have heard that over 80% of the
population has candida yeast infections. While using ThreeLac, you can
continue to test yourself. You will start to see fewer and fewer
strings hanging down.

Thank you so much for posting this.... I know, I'm a little late to the party...

I did this this morning (after months of using probiotics daily) and NOTHING... no strings, no flecks... NADA!! YAY!!!

I am going to have my dh do this the next time he is home... I'm hoping a VISUAL cue will encourage him to take probiotics daily... he has a continual case of athlete's foot and jock itch and so many other symptoms of a yeast/candida type thing going on... and insists on using OTC "remedies" instead of addressing the underlying issue. I hope this will show him what's going on!

Thank you!

Lo

P.S. And thank you to everyone on this thread.... I've learned SO much!

[Ilovelife]

Just wanted to update....I've been doing the yogurt douches for 7 days now, including adding in more probiotic powder. Also taking probiotics orally (for months now, at least). Well, I am actually itchier now than ever. Argh! I am at my wits end. I don't know what to try next.

ETA: In case anyone is still reading here for info. Turns out my itch is due to excema & is all under control now....finally.

[nonniecita]

Hi,
I haven't had a chance to read thru all of the posts yet, so I don't know if this has been asked, if so-- I apologize.. Anyway, which yogurt maker is the best??? Thanks
Btw Goodpapa, I'm in Greensboro NC!!!!!!!!!

[nonniecita]

Hi,
Is anyone else freaked out about this? I recently started taking probiotics and this is the brand that I'm using. Any thoughts?
Thanks!

Originally Posted by JaneS

Warning about Baby Jarro-dophilus

Gut issues have been plaguing DS and I for a long time (despite consistenting taking probiotics and Elimination/Rotation Diets, but that's another story).

DS had been on Baby Jarro for almost a year. We did use others, but chiefly this one. It did help his stool firm up and digest food better. However, he still needed to be on a restricted diet and certain grains, all forms of sugar and other things would send him quickly back into mushy "stink-to-high-heaven stool" Land.

We had a stool analysis done after a year of the above interventions (diet, probiotics) and he was 4+ for Bifidus. NO Acidophilus. And 4+ for several potentially pathogenic bacterium: Citrobacter, Klebsiella, and Proteus mirabilis.

It wasn't until we started reading about the Specific Carbohydrate Diet that I learned that the author of said diet does NOT recommend bifidus b/c it has a tendancy to overgrow and encourage the development of pathogenic bacteria.

Since that's exactly what happened with us, I believe her. She only recommends acidophilus, bulgaricus, and thermophilus calling them "community minded" organisms. Also she notes that research has shown that a bifidus dominent gut beyond exclusive nursing period (first 6 mos of life) is correlated with celiac disease.

It is very frustrating that so little research is available in this area re: which is the best or even most beneficial probiotics.

DS is still most likely dairy intolerant, so he gets Kirkman Acidophilus until I get my non dairy yogurt making up to speed for him.

I'm doing terrifically on The Body Ecology Diet Kefir powder starter made with raw milk for my probiotic fix. Kefir has beneficial yeasts which the SCD author is not sure about but since I improved greatly on it, and is easy to make and preserve the other beneficial enzymes from the raw milk, it's staying for now.

If you want to read more about the SCD for healing the gut see:
www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info
www.pecanbread.com

and the "Healing the Gut Tribe":
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=320840

[Golden]

Jane,

We have been using baby jarro too for my now 11 month old. What brand do you recommend then?

Thanks!
Golden

[janellesmommy]

DH bought me Bio-K Plus probiotics from Whole Foods after I had tummy problems for 6 months. It cleared it right up! It contains LB acidophilus and LB casei. I recently weaned my 2 1/2 year old dd, and lately she's been having runny poops. I decided to see if she would eat the Bio-K Plus. I'm so excited because this morning she ate a full serving straight from a spoon! That will make it so much easier to give her if I don't have to hide it in a smoothie. (DH can hardly stand the taste). I'm so proud of my little girl! (She also eats her DHA pills straight--just bites into them and likes the fishy taste!) I'll keep you posted on whether the probiotics or not!

[zanelee]

I'd be very interested in finding out what brands of probiotics everyone is using and any other pertinent information.

I recently got back on probiotics after my dd (almost 8 months and exclusively bf) started pooping awful, stinky orange poos! She's never had the normal breastmilk poos. I also put her on probiotics.
I'm using Nature's Way, but it has the bifidus in it, and interestingly enough (look out, TMI here) I started having awful gas and poos that smelled like dd's! She's on the Nature's Way probiotic for children, which unfortunately has the bifidus too.
So, I'm looking for what to go to next. Anyone want to share?

[JaneS]

I truly think homemade yogurt/kefir is the best probiotic there is. I took buckets of pills and never noticed as big a difference. Trust me, they are worth the extra effort to make.

That being said, if you need to take a pill, and probably your gut issues are not as bad as mine were: I'd recommend

Nature's Way Reuteri
http://www.iherb.com/reuteri.html

www.Culturelle.com which is L. Casei

[tayndrewsmama]

Originally Posted by mountain mom

Too much probiotic at once can cause very loose stool with tummy upset.

So, if this happens, will it pass, or do you have to back off? Should you stop completely for awhile or just lower the doseage?

: I may have given myself very, very loose stools. Ok, fine, watery. :

[Gale Force]

Originally Posted by tayndrewsmama

So, if this happens, will it pass, or do you have to back off? Should you stop completely for awhile or just lower the doseage?

I would just lower the dose. You should be fine.

[Gale Force]

Originally Posted by tayndrewsmama

: I may have given myself very, very loose stools. Ok, fine, watery. :

Uh-oh.

[scbegonias]

:

subbing as we're going down this road after dd's recent yeast inhabitants over the summer.

[JaneS]

This huge thread needs to be bumped up...

Newbies, it's worth taking the time to slog thru it.

It is one of the many little secrets of the universe you will find here at MDC. It will change your family's life.

[Periwinkle]

This thread rocks. It DID change my family's life.

I came here to post this to the thread.... with the new deadly "stomach bug" going around ("C. Diff" or clostridium difficile) one of the few things that will touch it is YOGURT or probiotics.

Yes another reason to eat your probiotics!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...122901575.html

[carrietorgc]

thanks for bumping jane! until i have my own kefir from breastmilk ready.....I am looking for a new probiotic - needs to be hypoallergenic though. ds tolerates the kirkman's but mine has bifidus in it. tech. since he is under 6 mo it sounds ok for him, but i dont' want to risk anything!

[carrietorgc]

ok, kirkman has another hypo probiotic beyond the pro bio gold:

Kirkman Laboratories Pro-Culture Gold™ features the Lactobacillus rhamnosus probiotic strain

would this be of any help? I want dd (2.5 yrs) and dh on probiotics as well - they are both happy to take them.

[Periwinkle]

Jane, why do you recommend the Nature's Way Reuteri over any others (if someone isn't eating homemade yogurt)? I want to give some advice to my mom on what to take. Thanks!

And for everyone... can we have a recap on which yogurt brands are best? Again... I think we all know that homemade is best, but for those who don't/can't bother with that.

I've used Stonyfield Farms and Brown Cow, both of which I like.