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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I posted this under the childcare forum but nobody has answered so I thought I would try it this way...

I really want current or past providers to share how they got started...how did you gain clients, get going, etc.

If you are still providing, what have you learned, changed, progressed with?
post #2 of 13
Thread Starter 
anybody?
post #3 of 13
I got started through word of mouth. I had my son and wanted to stay home with him, and my housemate at the time worked with a woman who was returning to work and needed childcare for her son who was 7 weeks older than my son. She got the two of us together, and I have been watching for a year now.

I just decided to become a licensed provider, and when you become licensed, you go into the state register of providers. (in Vermont anyway) There they list how many children you are capable of caring for at one time. That should help you to gain more clients.

I just started a new child in my care, but it was again, word of mouth. A woman that I took prenatal yoga with was at a pot luck that I was at, and she mentioned that she was looking for care for her son. I said that I was thinking of taking in another toddler, so we chatted, and now I have him here too.

I think word of mouth is definitely the way to go if you are not in a hurry to build your business. I am so glad to know the mamas and kiddos before hand, and I also know how they parent as well. It is nice to be caring for two toddlers who are being raised AP. Not that I couldn't care for more main stream kids, but it helps that our parenting philosophies are in line with each other. I think it helps with consistency with our children.
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thank you! Finally someone!!
post #5 of 13
I have found clients through both craigslist and our local AP parenting group. I got really nice looking business cards from Vistaprint and keep them with me. I specialize in providing part-time and drop in care, so not only do I have a niche, but I can charge more per hour than a full time provider.
post #6 of 13
I just wanted to second the word of mouth. I put an add in the paper and got 0 phone calls from that. All of the kids I had were from friends of people I knew. I quite keeping kids about a year ago and I still get calls from people needing childcare. It is amazing how word of mouth works.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by phathui5 View Post
I have found clients through both craigslist and our local AP parenting group. I got really nice looking business cards from Vistaprint and keep them with me. I specialize in providing part-time and drop in care, so not only do I have a niche, but I can charge more per hour than a full time provider.
I would definitely like to do drop in care. There is no place like that around here, so I think there would definitely be a market. I currently charge $5 an hour for regular daily care. How much would I charge for drop in? I usually pay my teenage babysitter that I use occasionally $10 an hour. Would that be too much for drop in? Would it depend on hourly/daily rates?
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Pumpkin_Pie View Post
I would definitely like to do drop in care. There is no place like that around here, so I think there would definitely be a market. I currently charge $5 an hour for regular daily care. How much would I charge for drop in? I usually pay my teenage babysitter that I use occasionally $10 an hour. Would that be too much for drop in? Would it depend on hourly/daily rates?

I think that one should definitely charge more than local daily/hourly rates for drop-in. Drop-in is more work, when you think that most parents want to get to know you before leaving their child with you, and you need to get to know the child a bit too. Are you going to be paid for this interview time? I'd consider having a registration fee of some kind. And still charge more on top of that, considering that having the same child and parents to deal with every day, ones who know your routines, is easier than, say, 5 different sets of children and parents in one week, too, ykwim?

I'd probably start by charging 150% or maybe even 200% of my regular hourly/daily rates for drop-in care, and an interview/registration fee that paid for my time, and see whether that would fly.




holidaymama, the best advice anyone gave me when I started my home daycare a few years back was not to try to work too many hours. A 10-12 hour day, five days a week, which many providers work, is a recipe for burnout, in my own experience. I think it is really smart to consider offering only part-time or reduced hours when you are getting started.

I went through an agency from the start, but it is different in my area, probably, than yours. There is no such thing as being licensed here without going with an agency, though there are unlicensed private babysitters, for sure. I called the three agencies that service my region and interviewed all of them, and chose to go with the one that I thought I would work with most easily. Learned a lot doing this.

My initial clients were all referred by the agency. I did some part/time and backup care in the first few months, then was full and full-time by the following September.

Now, I have several clients, mostly part-time. One is a family that has been with me since my early days, two came by word of mouth, and three from my website/online advertising.

One thing lots of home child care providers are doing in my area is advertising through websites. I set mine up through freewebs and put photos, fees, policies etc. up and then use the link in all online and print ads and local childcare directories. If you google the name of my town and "daycare", my site comes up on the first page. I have not had to advertise since setting up the site -- I get inquiries almost daily from my website alone.

It might be interesting to search for home daycare web sites in your area, if you haven't already. They could tell you a lot about local rates and what people expect from your area, etc.

ETA, that I looked back at your op and am still thinking about the question "what have you learned, changed, progressed with" since starting out. That is a really good question. I am going to think about it and hopefully get back to it.
post #9 of 13
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Thank you so much for that last post! I think I will for sure use Craigslist and start a small website.

The burnout part scares me! I would like to do 7-5:30 but that is 10.5 hours. However, as a parent that has to commute myself right now, I really feel I would lose business if I didn't open until 7:30...maybe I could do 5 pick up.

Eventually after I built up a clientele, I would like to do more specialized care for before and after school and for preschool during the day.

I had thought about only doing preschool, but financially, I don't think I could make it.

I am not expecting to make what I make now as a teacher (45K) but I really feel that I could make about 35K a year in my area. I am thinking of taking 6 children...maybe one infant, one under 2, and 4 over 2. For fees, $160 weekly for infant and $145 weekly for others. Minus taxes and weekly costs for running the daycare, I think I could pull that off.

Would anyone share what their costs of running their daycare include? Most food will be covered under the food program, right?
post #10 of 13
I definitely started to burnout last winter on 10 hour days 5 days a week. I am doing it again this winter, only due to financial reasons. I desperately need to save some money and get myself back on track financially. I am hoping I can hire a sub at some point, though, so I can take a day off here and there.

Thanks so much for the info on drop in care. Once I am registered with my state, I am definitely going to do that. I like the idea of a registration fee to cover interview time/paperwork. I think it would really be a great business for this area.
post #11 of 13
re: burnout

I am in a fairly happy place right now because I have a 7:30-4:30 day, sometimes shorter, and my clients are all either teachers or flexible sahms. They are the kind of families where the parent who goes to work later drops the child off and the parent who gets off earliest picks the child up so the child has an 8 hour day in childcare instead of a 10 hour one.

I am able to take summers off and school holidays, and that makes life really doable right now. (I get paid for the school holidays, but not for the summers) Would a niche like this work for you, holidaymama?

I used to do after school care and go till 6 or 7 pm, but I just don't have it in me. It is like working a second shift after the first one, with a fresh group of children arriving, a fresh set of needs to meet. I thought it would work out because my dd was school age and she'd have playmates, but too much for me.

I know a few providers in my area who specialize in part-time. They take every Friday off, for example, and they get the families where the little one can go to Grandma's one day a week but Grandma doesn't want to make the commitment to do childcare full-time. Or they are open MWF, say, and are able to find clients who only need part-time hours and are happy not to have to pay for full-time care -- here most daycares pretty much laugh at you if you say you only need part-time and could you share a space with someone ? I've always wondered if I could do a mornings only home daycare, say 7 am to 1pm and have all the children go home to nap? Maybe students or wahms would like that, because they wouldn't have to pay for naptime care when they could have their littles nap at home and get work done anyway.

My impression of the States is that you are a nation of workaholics, frankly. Long commutes, short maternity leaves, lots of overtime, people who don't take even the two weeks vacation they are supposed to get... I just don't know how y'all do it . I can see why American childcare providers would feel that they are stuck with even longer hours than their employers. But would there be no niches for part-time care providers?


re: home daycare expenses

I calculate that my utilities etc. go up by about a third when my daycare is in session.

I have a cell phone and laptop that are mostly for business use --need that laptop to keep records, maintain my website, and to be able to do research and answer business emails during naptime and still keep an eye on the children.

Don't have a food program here. I buy organic where possible and budget about $6-8 per child per day for food. Recently increased my fees to cover a switch to organic milk/eggs/cheese and meat -- parents were happy to pay more for the good stuff. Food is my biggest expense. I try not to waste what we buy.

I buy way too much in the way of craft supplies. Like big bins of foamy letters that the kids use for a bit then are bored with them so they sit in my storage room and I forget I have them and buy another bin the next year....If I had the guts, I'd get rid of EVERYTHING and start over and be more careful with purchases.

Liability insurance is an issue, extra car insurance if you transport children, and supplying one's own carseats avoids a lot of hassles if you do...

Safety upgrades, like fire extinquishers, smoke/co2 detectors, baby gates, etc. can add up. My agency did a safety check in my home and gave me a list of stuff to take care of when I started with them. I did some other things for aesthetics as well as safety, like replacing all the old electric socket plates in our house with nicer, childproof ones.

Playpens, nap mats, child-sized furniture, strollers, wagons, quality toys, children's books, play climbers, etc. can add up but if you buy good quality and/or luck out to find good deals second hand, this is just a startup cost and you won't have to shell out every year after the first.

The best deal I have is my $12 library card. I usually have dozens of children's books, audiobooks, and music cds out at any one time. It took me a while to get over the fear of having to pay for lost/damaged materials, but then I realized that even if I had to replace a hundred dollars worth or so every year, the library card was STILL a really, really great deal. And I'm sure my librarians are just happy that their children's collection is being so well used and loved at my house.

I would love to have a cleaning service every couple of weeks, at least, but I haven't been able to convince myself I can afford that.

I am able to write off a lot of household expenses that we might have anyway. Like, we put a container garden system in our yard to do square foot gardening a couple of years ago, something I've always wanted to do. I was able to write off a big portion of that as a business expense because I planned to use gardening as an activity with the children and to grow food for their use. I can also write off a portion of my mortgage interest, home insurance, home repair expenses or rent representing the portion of my home used for business (works out to about a third) and the replacement cost of anything children destroy. I can write off a lot of expenses related to education and training, too, and some of that is for things I'd want to do anyway.

Don't know if it all works the same way with the IRS, but basically I find that here it is all the potential write-offs that make doing home daycare financially worth it.
post #12 of 13
Write offs: Our tax guy got our taxable income down to $8000 last year because of all my childcare write offs. He counted the time that the children use space in the house and a portion of the mortgage. Wear and tear on the van. Any toys, art supplies I'd bought. Museum and zoo memberships, etc.
post #13 of 13
I've been considering providing child care in my home. I'm a former teacher and the mother of two. My biggest drawback is that my townhouse is tiny and I don't have a fenced yard. I am in walking distance of a terrific park, though. I think I'd be a terrific provider, though, so that might make the small space ok. I used to provide technical assistance and training to teachers in child care programs and preschools so I've got the background.

I've got a lot to think through. I'm a single parent and need to make sure that I can keep a fairly consistent income. I need to be able to provide at least half of our monthly expenses through my work.

I can care for two children without getting a license through the state. I really don't want to be licensed. I wouldn't have the space for more children and the number of children I'd watch counts towards my foster care license.
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