Originally Posted by acp
Sorry, I don't think I was clear. I agree completely, and that's part of the reason why I want a home birth this time even though I adore my old midwife (who only practices in hospitals) and had a GREAT natural birth despite numerous complications in a hospital.
But the poster I was responding to had stated that a home birth was likely out of the question for her, and yet had described a hospital birth with WAY more interventions than are required even in most hospitals, if you know what to ask for, have a good advocate, and choose the hospital wisely. I just wanted to make sure she knew that you CAN have a hospital birth with far fewer interventions than she had the last time.
It could have been me not understanding you too, I'm pretty short on sleep.
I firmly believe that in MOST hospitals in the US it is virtually impossible to get no or very few interventions in your birth, unless A. you have a precipitous labor, less than 2 hours, there's very little time to "mess" with you, B. you have excellent support staff, your own hired doula or midwife who is able to effectively communicate with hospital staff and or C. you or your spouse are well informed AND well able to fend off all the various attacks that come in the form of "well, don't you want a healthy baby" i.e. the "dead baby" card that many health care professionals, whether they admit it or not, use to "scare" women into compliance with their protocols or policies.
It's NOT about what is best for each individual woman laboring in a hospital.
WOMEN MUST KNOW THIS!
It is about what is BEST FOR THAT PARTICULAR HOSPITAL and OBGYN. It is often about ass-covering. It is often about liability. It is often about being able to say in court "I did everything medically possible". It is often about what their insurance carriers insist upon. It is about money, power and not getting sued.
Women need to WAKE UP and STOP LYING to themselves and saying "oh, but not MY doctor... he's wonderful!"
Dr. Wonderful was trained in the pathology of birth and labor. When you HAVE pathology, in other words, when something really IS wrong, then it is very valuable to have Dr. Wonderful on your team, if you need an emergency section or you have medical issues that are complicating your normal physiological event (labor/birth) then that's what OB's are useful for.
When you DO NOT have pathology, in other words, when you have a normal, straighforward birth with normal variations in length, pain tolerances, fatigue, but when all is within NORMAL parameters, Dr. Wonderful really doesn't have any business within 100 yards of you. Dr. Wonderful is NOT NEEDED.
All a normal, healthy birthing mother needs is SUPPORT. A doula, a midwife, a friend, a husband, a partner... those people who love her, who have gotten to know her, who have forged a bond with her. Those with whom she can relax and be herself and be in charge. Those she can TRUST.
Women.... you are NOT likely to have a normal, un-interferred with birth in a US hospital today. Start educating yourselves.
Stop reading that drivel about what you can expect and start learning the truth about what really happens every day. What is happening today, right now, as you're reading this. What happened yesterday and what will happen tomorrow.
Read "Pushed" by Jennifer Block. It's cheap, on Amazon. Read Mardsen Wagner's book "Born in the USA". It is also cheap, on Amazon. Read "Immaculate Deception" by Suzanne Arms. Read books by Ina May Gaskin, by Michel Odent, by others in the birth field who know the TRUTH and are not afraid to stand up and SAY it.
Man... there is SO much information out there. NO woman birthing today can say "I didn't know..." with a clear conscience. You can get most of these books at the library for FREE. If you can't GET to the library, many communities have groups or organizations that will bring library books to you, if you're housebound or just don't have transportation. You can contact local LLL, doulas, midwives, many will be willing to bring you books, help you search for answers.
I know I'm up on my soapbox again, but I guess I will have to keep on standing up on it, as long as women need to hear it.
Don't just be a sheeple and go along with whatever your dr. wonderful says. EDUCATE yourself! It's your body, it's your baby, it's your birth. Don't cheat yourself! Find out what's best, what's right, what resonates with you and DO it. BE strong. BE empowered. Surround yourself with those who are also strong and empowered and who believe in you and the power of your body.
out of breath for now, but wait till I catch it! lol