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post #1 of 21
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I have an 8 year old and a 4 year old, and dh and I have been talking about having another baby. We're just playing around with the idea right now, and would probably not want to be pregnant for another 6 months to year.

Does anyone here have kids who are 9-10 years apart? Would you do it again? How is the relationship between the 2 kids?
post #2 of 21
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post #3 of 21
My oldest is 17. My middle is 4. My youngest is 1. All boys. Yes, I would absolutely do it again. I wouldn't mind doing it again right now. There are definitely some different challenges. Such different ages means completely different schedules sometimes. That can make things difficult. We had a hard time with ds1 and ds2. I think it was a combo of going from ds1 being an only child for almost 13 years to having a sibling and that the ages of 13-15 can be very challenging anyway. DS1 has a great relationship with ds3, though. They are so sweet together. The baby has also helped to make the relationship between 1 and 2 better, I think.
post #4 of 21
There is 7.5 years between my oldest and youngest. I am so ready for my little one to be in school now that I have a 7th grader, and shes not. Everyone is going to find things work best in their own way. I would not do it that way again if I was to start over and actually plan all my pgs, but someone I have known others to love a bigger space.

I am in 3 differnent phases with these kids, trying to work, be a single mom, and plans to work on my education and a career change. Its hard for me, but others love a good challenge, only you and your dh can decide! Best of luck to you whatever you choose to do
post #5 of 21
I would do it, I like large spaces. I will never forget one day being ready to strangle my 16yo dsd just bursting mad and my dd (then 1yo) fussed and needed to nurse. I sat down and began nursing and the anger and venom just evaporated away and I was calm and relaxed before addressing dsd. I said at the time that all parents of teens should be nursing. Don't think I'll have that privilege with my own dd. Enjoy.
post #6 of 21
My youngest is now 17 yo. But I had her when my other two were 12 and 15. That was quite an age gap. People thought I was crazy. Would I do it over again? ABSOLUTELY!! First of all, the two older dc were so much help and loved helping with "their" baby. Second, my family doctor told me that she would "keep me young", and honestly she really has.
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by mamaley View Post
I have an 8 year old and a 4 year old, and dh and I have been talking about having another baby. We're just playing around with the idea right now, and would probably not want to be pregnant for another 6 months to year.

Does anyone here have kids who are 9-10 years apart? Would you do it again? How is the relationship between the 2 kids?
My older two were 9 and 5 when I had my youngest. I'd definately do it again (if not for losses, I would have had one 5+ years after my youngest.)

My 17 y/o has always been wonderful with his younger brother, and ds2 worships his big brother. Dd is less tolerant of her little brother, but he teases her a LOT and I think it's more personality than spacing. I loved having the kids spaced out because my older kids were able to do a lot of things for themselves when I needed to give my attention to the baby. I also enjoy having kids of all different ages around.
post #8 of 21
I have a 20yo a 14yo and a 3yo.
Dd (3yo) seems to see her older brothers as adults, they get things for her and yet they still play with her and roughhouse. Although she likes to announce to strangers that they are her brothers.
The 14yo gets a bit annoyed at her little routine things she does, (a bit ODD) But he goes along with it, both are very protective of her.
post #9 of 21
I have an 19 year old, a 16 year old, and a seven month old.

The teens are atr a difficult point in their relationship and can barely be in the same room with each other, but both of them get along wonderfully with the baby. I had expected them to be either completely uninvolved or more like aunts and uncles, but they are definitely siblings. The nineteen year old and the infant bounce and wiggle with delight whenever they see each other. She feels that the 16 year old is too rough with the infant and also too condescending, but he does love his brother so I just supervise them very carefully.

If nature would let me, I would love to have another baby when Terran is eighteen.

The effect on me is that I am constantly reminded of how brief this season in my youngest's life is so I am more inclined to let the dishes sit in the sink and cuddle him (my biggest regret with ds1) but I am also reminded that my difficult, often troubled teenager uis just going through a different season of his own life and that he is still every bit as much my baby as his sweet-smelling cuddly little brother.

I did not intend to space my children this far apart but a bad divorce and a lot of scar tissue led me to have unrealistically high standards for a stepfather/new daddy, I took a gamble on a promising suitor and lost, and then I found myself single with menopause on the horizon and a clear view of an empty nest. I didn't like what i saw and I realized that i wasn't done being a Mom even though i couldn't give Terran a "perfect" life.

I don't feel younger than I am but I liike being this age and the perspective it gives me and I also feel that I hafve had time to process my experience as a parent and use it more effectively than I would without the 16 year gap. I'm still a bit burned out on the politics of the homeschooling movement and glad to have a break from it, but I have fond and treasured memories of breastfeeding and babywearing that I'm delighted to relive and am not so set in my ways that I can't get excited about UC, EC, and how much nicer wraps and mei tais are than nojos and Sara's rides.
post #10 of 21
I don't think I could because "My" teen is actually my brother I adopted.

He is 17

My sons are
11
10
9

and my dd is 3

So there is a 14 year gap between my brother and my daughter.

But they all get along very well. My oldest son is super awesome with my dd and my brother. they all mesh very well together and its awesome to have that kind of help, because to them its not work to play with there baby sister.
post #11 of 21
Mine are 27, 13, 12, & 7. ElderSon was great with the Dumplings when they were tiny, and was out on his own when they were 4 & 5 maybe. He was a lot of help with the babies, and I was so proud when I saw how comfortable he was with his own newborn Figlet. However, ElderSon does not do well at all with the Dumplings now - the relationship is unclear (to him) - if they are peers or he is of an older generation. I think their relationships will smooth out when the are through the surly teen stage, and he is more confident in himself as a parent to his own kids. ElderSon adores & 7 YO
Foster Dumpling, mainly because she is little enough to see him as an adult, and admire him.

My only complaint is when ElderSon tries to give me parenting advice!
post #12 of 21
not a mama, but the age difference you describe is very close to me, my sister and my brother (in that order). I get along great with both of them, although I'm better 'friends' with my sister and have more of a momish tone with my brother.

There was a really awesome thread in TAO abt siblings and relationships.
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by mamarhu View Post

My only complaint is when ElderSon tries to give me parenting advice!
Ugh! Mine does that too! My opinion of my older childrens' parenting abilities has completely reversed since Terran's birth; now I can't wait to see dd become a mother and hope ds1 never breeds!

post #14 of 21
I have three teens, 16, 15 & 13 and a two year old.
The 16 & 13 year olds are my stepsons and the 15 year old is the daughter that I brought into the marriage.
We debated on whether or not to have a child together...took us about 3 years to come to a decision and then, presto, nine months later we have a bouncing baby boy!
It's absolutely wonderful for us. It's so much easier parenting one baby at a time. The teens have different needs to be met, but really, they are pretty self sufficient at this time.
All the older kids dote on their little brother.
It's so much easier raising one baby instead of three.
post #15 of 21
My kids are spaced closely together and young, so I can't give you advice from a parent's point of view.

However, I'm 7 years older than my sister, and it's only just recently that we've started to have an okay relationship. And it's actually a pretty superficial relationship.. we don't confide in each other or anything. It makes me pretty sad, actually.. I'd love to have a sister that I could tell anything to, and vice versa. It's also hard because I feel like I do have more of a parent's attitude towards her. My parents used to have me help put her to sleep (she needed someone to lay down with her, and sometimes they'd get too frustrated, so I would), babysit her, help her with homework, etc. So I don't really view her as a contemporary.

My husband's sister is 12 year older than him. He basically has no relationship with her.. they only talk at Christmas. He doesn't have very many memories of when he was real young, so he doesn't even really remember her living at home with him (she went away to college). It's too bad because I do really like her, and I think we'd all get along great if we lived closer and/or if we had the relationship where we could call each other up and chat. But I've only ever met her three times, and my husband and I have been together for 12 years.

So, I'm sure it can work, but my husband and I decided on our children's spacing because we didn't want to do what our parents did.

But there's also a difference between sitting down and planning from the beginning that you want your kids to have a certain age spacing, versus it just happening that they're spaced far apart. If my kids were spaced like yours and I really wanted another, I wouldn't let the worry of spacing stop me from having another child.
post #16 of 21
I have a 15 year old, 9 year old, almost 12 month old and due in March with #4. The two oldest of course bicker and go back and forth but they are also best buddies. Neither one will admit how much they love each other but they are fiercely protective of each other and do things together. They both adore their little brother and are incredible with him. They are a big help to me and are looking forward to another little one. It does make me a bit sad to think that my oldest will be going off to college in 3 years and won't be around the two youngest full-time while they are growing up. I am #5 in a family of 6 and the oldest is 12 years older than me. We clicked more as adults, but the main reason for that is he and my oldest sister have a different father and they did not grow up with us...long story. I've rambled but to answer your question, yes, I would do it again. Spacing them apart was not intentional at all but it did give me the chance to enjoy all of them in different ways. I am a little worried about having two so young and so close in age now! Not what I'm used to at all...
post #17 of 21
I have 4 kids, 3.5-4yrs. apart. There are 11 years between the oldest and youngest. There have definitely been challenges, but so totally worth it. For instance, we homeschool, and finding things that all 4 kids can do at the same time can be hard. I don't like leaving the older ones at home while I spend the day taking the littler ones to something that's age-appropriate for them. Also, ds1 has things he need to get to that are mandatory like classes and work, and since he does not have his license, I have to be available to get get him where he needs to go. That will often mean not scheduling something with the younger ones because I have to be around.

Yesterday I had to take my 2 middles to the dr. and orthodontist and my little one didn't feel very well and didn't want to tag along. I left her home with ds1 who took her out to lunch and to the park which I think is a rare and beautiful thing you just don't see very much. Ds1 did say he got a lot of stares, probably a lot due to his being Caucasian and her being Chinese, but I'm sure it's also because it's just so unusual to see a pair like that out and about (esp on a school day). Very precious.
post #18 of 21
We are 13, 9, and 4.
The challenges are things like board games to enertain all three-ususally the older 2 give in and play a 'baby' game to entertain their brother- it doesn't take too long before we can move on to something else...

also he gets into their stuff and can get a bit mischivieous whilst they are at school!

soccer weekends are challenging with 2 old enough to travel and 1 who still plays in the little kid league...

BUT.. we have a great big sister who truely is helpful and amazing with her brothers, especially the 4 yo.
She can watch them while we run to the store or go for a run!!!

They really do care deeply and have never been in situations were they had to compete against one another....

I also love that I never had 2 in diapers at the same time!!! That was awesome!
post #19 of 21
My son is 16.5 and my dd just turned 3. Honestly, I love the spacing, with my personality I could not imagine having kids close in age, it would just be too draining for me. My son is a helper but more importantly I am able to balnce their individual needs in a way that would be harder to do if they were closer in age. For instance ds often wants to talk/hang later in the evening which works well because its often when dd is sleeping or close to it.

The biggest challenge is juggling family events that work for both ages, admittedly that is a tad harder since what appeals to a 3 yo doesn't always appeal to a 16 yo. It also harder with costs since the 3 yo can be cheaply entertained for practically nothing (trip to the park) and a teen can be pricey even when you strive to be frugal.

Now I must admit I was biased towards wanting this type of spacing because I am 8 years older than my only sibling and dh is an only, so I really had no idea of life with kids the same age.

My son loves his sister and she just adores him, he is living with his Dad this school year which is hard on dd but as he jokes she is the only girl in his life. Its funny because his girlfriends seem to love how involved he is with his little sister, he really gets into playing with her. The only challenges is when he can't play or is busy and she doesn't quite get it.
post #20 of 21
I haven't read any replies, but I'll throw out my random thoughts. DS1 is 15. DD is 5. I also have a 3 year old boy. (This wasn't my plan at all, but reproduction has thrown me a lot of curve balls.)

So...the good:

1) I've never seen a child as happy as ds1 when his little sister arrived. It lit up his whole life. I don't know if the same would apply to you, because dd was his first sibling, and he'd wanted one for a long, long time.

2) I've noticed that both ds1 and a friend of his who also has much younger siblings are more grounded and responsible in some ways than most of their friends. There's an extra level of responsibility and consideration that's absolutely required when there are very young children in the house (even little things, such as being absolutely certain you've chained the door when you leave and things like that, create a subtly different attitude). Both these boys are more...hmm...careful, I think is the word, than most of their friends...careful about other people, I mean. I honestly think that having much younger siblings is one of the best things that ever happened to ds1 (he may not always agree).

3) The younger kids seem to keep ds1 more pulled into the family than many of his friends. If you've read Hold Onto your Kids, you'll get what I mean. DD and ds2 are the most effective means of keeping ds1 close that I have. His younger siblings are just so...cute...that he can't resist them even when he's in a full-blown fit of adolescent moodiness and angst.

4) DD and ds2 adore their older brother. They both light up like a Christmas tree when he gets home from school. They've got one more loving "adult" in their lives than they would if we didn't have him.

5) From our perspective, it is nice to have a "built-in babysitter". We try not to abuse the privilege, though. DS1 often has the choice of watching the kids while I run a quick errand or running the errand for me, instead. We also pay him, if he's babysitting while we're out for recreational purposes. (He gets paid if we're at a concert. He doesn't get paid if I have to drive dh somewhere for work, as we consider that part of pulling together as a family.) School gets out earlier than work does, so it's nice to have ds1 home for 10 minutes so I can run out and grab something I forgot for making supper or whatever.

6) My younger kids actually seem to be having a positive effect on ds1's friends, as well. This isn't really relevant to my family, but it's interesting. The teens can relax the "I'm too cool" thing when the little ones are around (this did take a while in some cases) and just enjoy them. I'm finding the interaction between my little ones and ds1's circle of friends absolutely fascinating. On several occasions, when I'm out with the little ones, I've had a teenager come up to me to say "hi"...but mostly to say it to dd and ds2. Most of the teens really enjoy having the little ones around.


The bad:

1) DS1 is a teenager. Sometimes, he wants/needs to be left in peace, to do his homework, or just to...be. That's really, really hard to get through the heads of little kids who love him to bits and want to be with him. He gets frustrated when they won't leave him alone, and sometimes they're hurt by his unwillingness to spend time with them. DD, in particular, has a rough time with this. DS1 also has a girlfriend, and dd doesn't like that at all....she likes the girl, but not the relationship. (DS2, otoh, is trying to move in on ds1's gf. It's cute, and kind of funny, but it can drive ds1 crazy!)

2) There are times when juggling the scheduling needs of a teenager and two young ones is really hard. Attending an elementary school graduation or high school awards ceremony with two very small children running around is not my idea of a good time, and dh often misses out on these things to cope with the kids. It's easy to get caught up in the needs of the young ones, because they require more care, and overlook ds1's emotional needs. This has made him more self-reliant in some ways, but it is too easy to miss things, and forget about things going on at school while being interrupted by small children demanding food or having a fight or...whatever.

3) DS2 gets into ds1's stuff, and ds1 hates that. He has a lock on his door, and it's his responsibility to lock it, but he does forget sometimes. It's really hard to get a 3 year old to understand that the cool toys in his older brother's room are off limits. It's not a huge issue, but we do have problems with it occasionally.

4) I'm dreading it when ds1 moves out. I'm hoping dd and ds2 will be old enough to handle it, but I don't know. DD gets almost hysterical at the very idea sometimes. It's hard on her to know that ds1 will move out and become an adult and leave her.


I never wanted a big gap between my kids, and this is not the composition of my family that I was anticipating. It has some interesting challenges involved. But...I like it. It's kind of fun, in a weird way. It's meant more responsibility for ds1 and he didn't ask for that...but it's also meant that he's had more freedom to act like a kid without worrying about negative peer pressure. It's been really great.


ETA: I skimmed a couple other replies, and wanted to add:

Board games - We play "kiddie" games first on family game night. After the little ones go to bed, ds1 and I will play a game of cards or Battleship or something. He puts up with Candyland, Trouble or Chutes and Ladders...and enjoys the other games we play (I Spy, Animal Charades, a hunt for poker chipes, etc.).

Outings - Oh, yeah - can be a major PITA. I hate that so many places don't include a teenager in their family pricing. It's frustrating when ds1 really wants to go to the "Krazy!" display at the Art Gallery (comics, videogames, cartoons, etc.) and we end up spending a small fortune and then feeling rushed through the whole thing because the kids don't like it. We cope with it, but it is frustrating and it can be very difficult to find outings that suit everyone. Camping rocks - the kids play and have fun, and ds1 has a great time chopping wood, learning to set up camp, etc.
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