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post #81 of 217
ErinJune Bug- OK, take a deep breath. This is an experinced L&D nurse wth a little advice.
Take your time and research your options. Do not let your experience in the materninty ward completely dictate your decision. Here are some resons why I would not let the experience scare you.
Decels- We only know they are there because we see them. Fetal movement is a better gauge of fetal well being. This can be assessed at home by you or a midwife There have been sooo many 'emergency c-sections' because of decels, and born is a beautiful pink child. Its a knee jerk overraction, not always, but often. Those newborn cases you have cited as needing special care, what other circumstances were involved. Labor induction? Epidural? IV narcotics? Pitocin? Decreased mobility in mom during labor? Maternal fever? Maternal dehydration? What were the outcomes of the babies? Many babies are 'treated' for tachypnea, and often its transient. Your skilled midwife can triage the situation.
OB's need to act on what they see. One of ur OB's has told a patient 'You came to the hospital, now we have to treat you'. The OB meant that what she was seeing was not an issue until the patient came to the hospital under the OB's care, and now the OB has to act. Its a liability.
If you love your midwife, trust she will take care of you to the best of her ability and has the knowledge to know when to get help for you if the situation arises. Talk to your midwife. What situations would make her transfer you? What is her level of comfort should you have issues?
Lastly- you may have a hard time finding an OB who will let things progress too much because you are a VBAC. They are often treated like a time bomb. Good luck.
post #82 of 217
Does anyone else have the tyvek bunny suits for going to surgery? We have partners wear them in to c-sections over their clothes, and most of the L&D nurses wear them too (we don't circulate here). We have the option of wearing scrubs from OR if we want, and I'm suddenly thinking about the environmental impact of using the tyvek....

I wonder if we can put them in the recycling- or maybe I should just start changing if there is time...?

Any thoughts?
post #83 of 217
Wow, I do like this thread. I dont consider myself truely crunchy. I just share many of the same beliefs. I too am very torn on vaccinations, its because I was trained in medicine before I was trained in motherhood I guess. I am going back to work in a week (today is my baby's first birthday) and I work in the NICU. I am feel that my former and current (changing jobs to be closer to home) hospitals are great. They definately support breastfeeding and keeping the babe with mom. My new hospital is single room maternity centered and have birthing tubs in the rooms, I love that. I can't wait to learn other ways I can help encourage a more natural start to babies lives. If only I could convince the nursery to use cloth diapers! Has anyone ever seen this happen? It's my dream....
post #84 of 217
Our NICU considered them but the weighing issue was the thorn since the prefolds are differing weights. Well baby nursery shouldn't be an issue but I know our patient population wouldn't go for it.

I'm a fellow CD'er. Inspired by two other co-workers before me!
post #85 of 217
Crunchy nurse-to-be here! I have three more semesters to go before I'm a RN. I plan to work LDRP. Next semester is OB and I'm excited!
post #86 of 217
Wow, I'm so excited to have found this thread. I have never considered myself crunchy, but reading this, I guess I am, and I like it! :

I am finishing my first sem. in nursing school, I will graduate in May '11 because I only go part time. I've been struggling with this future career choice because of the drastic and blatent difference between my own beliefs and the beliefs of the medical community at large. We co-sleep, breastfeed, delayed/selectively vax, and try to just live a healthy natural lifestyle without too much medical intervention. I've tried to convince DH to let me transfer to a more naturally oriented distance school, where I could get my BA in natural health, because my ultimate dream is to open my own health and wellness center where I can educate people about natural lifestyles and help them make the best choices for their health. DH had a fit and insisted I stay in nursing school as a "plan b" I told him if I worked as a traditional nurse it would be a conflict of interest for me, unless I was able to work in a very progressive situation, which, we all know, there aren't too many of, and even less that are hiring. I wanted to work in L&D for awhile... but the situation there is just as bad if not worse.

I'm just thankful to have found this thread so I can see how everyone else handles balancing their personal/professional beliefs.
post #87 of 217
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Originally Posted by natrualmom View Post
ErinJune Bug- OK, take a deep breath. This is an experinced L&D nurse wth a little advice.
Take your time and research your options. Do not let your experience in the materninty ward completely dictate your decision. Here are some resons why I would not let the experience scare you.
Decels- We only know they are there because we see them. Fetal movement is a better gauge of fetal well being. This can be assessed at home by you or a midwife There have been sooo many 'emergency c-sections' because of decels, and born is a beautiful pink child. Its a knee jerk overraction, not always, but often. Those newborn cases you have cited as needing special care, what other circumstances were involved. Labor induction? Epidural? IV narcotics? Pitocin? Decreased mobility in mom during labor? Maternal fever? Maternal dehydration? What were the outcomes of the babies? Many babies are 'treated' for tachypnea, and often its transient. Your skilled midwife can triage the situation.
OB's need to act on what they see. One of ur OB's has told a patient 'You came to the hospital, now we have to treat you'. The OB meant that what she was seeing was not an issue until the patient came to the hospital under the OB's care, and now the OB has to act. Its a liability.
If you love your midwife, trust she will take care of you to the best of her ability and has the knowledge to know when to get help for you if the situation arises. Talk to your midwife. What situations would make her transfer you? What is her level of comfort should you have issues?
Lastly- you may have a hard time finding an OB who will let things progress too much because you are a VBAC. They are often treated like a time bomb. Good luck.
As a seasoned LDR RN as well I completely agree with this post. It was spot on. I see "emergency" sections all the time and then I hear "Good thing we did that section you or your baby could have died." Really? Because baby was pink, no need for oxygen and was not wheeled off the NICU. It can be frustrating working in that environment AND be crunchy at the same time.
post #88 of 217
I just found this thread and I'm thrilled! I have been an RN for four years now and I've spent most of my time working in an ED. I only work per diem now that I have a little one at home. Recenlty though, I've been feeling stuck about my job. I feel like I should be learning and growing so much everyday but I'm not-there is so little time on the job and our education department is less than par. I keep thinking that I should be better at what I am doing but I can't figure out how to keep growing ( and I know that the ED is an awesome place for learning). Am I alone in feeling this way? I sometimes wonder if I'm working in the right place but I can't figure out a better fit either. Any suggestions? Also, does any know of any good discussion boards dedicated to RNs and nursing students? Thanks!
post #89 of 217

just wondering...

Were any of you "crunchy nurses" out about your "crunchiness" while IN nursing school? Or do you know or any nursing schools that are "known" for being accepting of cruncy student nurses?

Asking because I am VERY crunchy and am considering nursing school...

If so, where did you attend school?



Lisa
post #90 of 217
Hey all . I'm Shy and I work as a RN in the newborn nursery and sometimes NICU as well. I'm so happy to see this tribe here as I thought I was the only person suffering. I do love my job for the most part but it's very difficult to deal with the constant lack of interest in breastfeeding, routine circs and vaxes, and don't even get me started on the constant c-sections, forcep-ing and vacuuming babies out by their head . I've never seen so many failures to progress during childbirth in my life. I tend to get weird looks when I get on a tangent about those things but what can you do. I also hate doing circs. I used to work nights so I was able to dodge them but not so much on day shift. It sucks :-(. I am so happy though because I recently found a friend at work who believes in a lot of the same things that I do when it comes to birthing and child-rearing. It'll be nice to have a mentor figure :
post #91 of 217
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Originally Posted by lrpurro View Post
Were any of you "crunchy nurses" out about your "crunchiness" while IN nursing school? Or do you know or any nursing schools that are "known" for being accepting of cruncy student nurses?

Asking because I am VERY crunchy and am considering nursing school...

If so, where did you attend school?



Lisa
Hi there! Glad you are considering nursing school. I have always been very outspoken about vaxing, circing, parenting, co-sleeping, breastfeeding, gentle discipline and let my opinions known throughout nursing school. I researched my beliefs so I always had data to backup why I was against circing, vaxing, elective sections, etc. My instructors were always willing to listen and voice opinions and such. Sometimes it turned into a debate class because there were many who were all for circing, and CIO, etc. It was rough, but now I work L&D and I can share info with patients and it is really fun. Of course there are "moments" when things do not go as planned but just be prepared because not everyone is crunchy in the medical community.
post #92 of 217
Hi! I am crunchy in my area, but just crispy to mdc standards.
post #93 of 217
I am a crunchy mama who works as a psych nurse and as a sexual assult nurse examinor. I love what I do! I have the power to educate. Some people listen and make changes and some don't but at least I have planted the seed. I hope to some day become a midwife but for now I am content working very parttime and unschooling my kids!!::
post #94 of 217
I was chrunchy in college as well, and open about it. I have nothing to hide. I am who I am. I went to a tech school in my area. People tend to ask alot of questions and are intreged by my chrunchiness, which is cool!
post #95 of 217
Happy to find this thread! I work in home care now, but my background is gyn oncology. I am on maternity leave now, but will be going back part time in January.
Nice to meet everyone!

As for crunchiness- I work with many elderly who think my crunchy ways are the right way- after all, they did not have the medical interventions available to them 50, 60, and 70 years ago. They had to do things the natural way!
post #96 of 217
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Originally Posted by GooeyRN View Post
Hi! I am crunchy in my area, but just crispy to mdc standards.
Ha ha, you are funny! Are you back to work yet? I forget, are you Labor/Delivery too?
post #97 of 217
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Originally Posted by mytwogirls View Post
Ha ha, you are funny! Are you back to work yet? I forget, are you Labor/Delivery too?
Going back in the spring, maybe sooner. I do med/surg.
post #98 of 217
I was pretty open about my crunchiness, especially in my maternity rotation. I also did a group project debating vaccines. A few of my professors actually were really supportive of our choice of debate topic, only one prof gave us a hard time, telling us it would be irresponsible of us as nurses to inform our clients they actually have a CHOICE and encourage researching before deciding wether to vaccinate or not.
post #99 of 217
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Originally Posted by 2mama View Post
I am a crunchy mama who works as a psych nurse and as a sexual assult nurse examinor. I love what I do! I have the power to educate. Some people listen and make changes and some don't but at least I have planted the seed. I hope to some day become a midwife but for now I am content working very parttime and unschooling my kids!!::
I recently started working casually in psychiatry, nice to see another psych nurse
post #100 of 217
Quote:
Originally Posted by lrpurro View Post
Were any of you "crunchy nurses" out about your "crunchiness" while IN nursing school? Or do you know or any nursing schools that are "known" for being accepting of cruncy student nurses?

Asking because I am VERY crunchy and am considering nursing school...

If so, where did you attend school?



Lisa
Hi Lisa! I just found this thread too! I'm taking prereq's for RN school in the midwest, which is NOT the most crunchy place, I'm from CA originally, and I know that my "weirdness" will run up against a lot of resistance in RN school. I do not plan on participating in genital mutilation (circ) of either sex and I will vocally dispute it if it becomes an issue. You can object on moral grounds and still finish RN school without that experience. It is not required. That's just one "crunchy" issue I'll probably have to deal with during school.
Here, our BF rate is not great and there is still a lot of more "traditional" attitudes towards CIO and spanking and whatnot, non-attachment parenting behaviours.
I've worked as a doula, midwife apprentice and breastfeeding peer counselor here and it's very interesting, the different attitudes...
I think school will be more of a challenge for me to be diplomatic and still vocal about what I believe in, than the academics, which haven't been a problem for me in the past! LOL.
I don't have advice on a "crunchy" RN school... I don't have the option of moving, so I have to go to the closest school, which is a junior college about 16 miles away.
I am considering going to Frontier after my RN, to get my NP. That is pretty crunchy... you might like to check it out.
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