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post #1 of 14
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When I was growing up braces were quite rare. I can think of 2 children who probably should have had them and did not - my sister and a classmate. That it is.


Even now, when someone in their 30's or 40' opens their mouth, I almost never run screaming from the room due to misaligned teeth. Really, I rarey notice peoples teeth unless they are extreme in one way or another.

All of this makes me wonder....have we gone too far in our love of orthodontia? How necessary is it? (and does it work? Is the cost - both financial, time and pain worth it for straigt teeth, etc).

Also for those more in the know...which area is more likely to give you functional problems - misaligned teeth? Overbites? Is there any way to tell now if an orthodontia issue is going to cause pain or decay in the future?

Can we talk about braces?

Kathy
post #2 of 14
Yes, I question the need for it. I am agonizing over this very question right now, in fact!

We recently saw the dentist and she recommended partial braces for DS (age 9) and full braces for DD (age 13).

In the case of DS, he has almost perfect teeth, top and bottom. There is only ONE tooth on the top, not his two front teeth, but the one next to them on one side (sorry, I can't remember technically what these are called ) that is set back farther than all the others. Dentist said because of his bite she doesn't think this one will ever come forward, and there is a limited "window of opportunity" to fix it--like, start sometime in the next year. She said all it would take is 6 months of top-only braces, and he would likely have perfect straight teeth the rest of his life. Total cost: $800. We can do $200 down, and then $100 per month for six months.

In the case of DD, she has two "baby" teeth yet to come out and then she will have all of her permanent teeth. Her front teeth, top and bottom, are slightly crowded and overlapping. Some of them are not all the way grown in, so I'm hoping maybe they could straighten out a bit. But dentist doesn't seem to think they will. She recommends full braces for DD. Cost: $5000. YIKES! Even breaking it into monthly payments, there is no way we can afford it short of a miracle. Dentist says nothing will change with her, and it's something that could be done now or 5 years from now or when she's an adult. But without braces, she will have slightly crooked teeth.

So, I sit here agonizing... we're leaning toward trying to do the partial braces for DS some time next year. The cost seems do-able and that one out-of-line tooth IS very noticeable, so I feel it will affect his look and self-esteem to not do it.

DD, on the other hand, we just can't afford it. Not unless something drastically changes in our financial situation. But I feel so guilty to think of NOT doing the braces for her because I think it will always bother her to have slightly crooked teeth. I feel like she will resent us if we do the braces for her brother and not for her. But how to afford it?

I just keep praying that somehow her teeth will straighten out on their own!
post #3 of 14
The obsession with perfectly straight teeth is a peculiarly american thing. I think that a little crookednes is actually nicer and less plastic looking.
post #4 of 14
Perfectly straight teeth often look really fake to me, and I must not be the only one since dentures are often made with slight "imperfections" to make them look more natural.
post #5 of 14
I question the need myself. They told DH he "had" to have braces as a kid and he has perfectly straight teeth. Even his wisdom teeth came in perfectly.

I had braces as a kid and I still don't have straight teeth. They shifted back after mine came off. Even with a retainer it didn't help.

I have seen too many people just looking to make money so I always question any procedure now.
post #6 of 14
I had braces at 14 (I wasn't interested beforehand) which was older than my orthodontist usually sees but he never said it would be harder than if I came in when I was 8. Seems fishy to me about the "window".
post #7 of 14
Always good to question any procedure, but know that orthodontia really does help people and isn't just for cosmetic purposes.
My teeth and jaw really don't fit. Not enough space for the teeth, lower jaw not matching up with the upper in size or alignment and the result was difficulty eating and PAIN.

I had three orthodontists recommend I get a specific surgery for my jaw and I declined because it freaked me out. I opted for the less horrifying extraction of one tooth, which helped, but didn't solve everything.

Dental problems tend to get worse as we age, and seeing what my dad (who passed down his dental issues) has gone through, makes me grateful I had some orthodontia.
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks all (and sorry I took so long to reply back!)

I have posted this question before and been almost FLAMED for questioning orthodontia. I am glad I am not alone in questioning!

DS teeth are fine. One may turn in a bit (at the back) but orthodontia is not in the cards.

DD (currently 9) is a different story. Her teeth are crooked, but they are not weird crooked (they are all a little bit crooked, none major). The dentist said he wants to refer her for orthodontia this year, but I am hesitant. The expense, time commitment, pain! I wonder if it is worth it. I will certainly make an appointment though - no harm in getting an educated opinion!

People are going to hate me - but I know I would prefer to lose a back tooth if it will help straighten teeth instead of orthodontia.: I am missing a back tooth (extracted due to decay) and it is not a big deal. My DH had two teeth extracted to make room for his teeth, and once again, he does not remeber it as a big deal - and orthodontia often is!

I wish there was more info available on "risk/costs: benefits" so I could make an informed decision - but as I said earlier, orthodontia seems to be so sacrosanct that I am having trouble finding info to make an informed decison.

Quite frankly, if there is no window on fixing teeth, I am inclined to wait and see what DD wants.

Kathy
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by kathymuggle View Post
People are going to hate me - but I know I would prefer to lose a back tooth if it will help straighten teeth instead of orthodontia.: I am missing a back tooth (extracted due to decay) and it is not a big deal. My DH had two teeth extracted to make room for his teeth, and once again, he does not remeber it as a big deal - and orthodontia often is!
I wholeheartedly agree with this. As a child, I had two permanent teeth extracted in my top row (one on each side) because the dentist said my mouth was going to be too small for all my teeth. My top row teeth are perfectly straight!

He had recommended the same thing for my bottom row, and my parents didn't have it done. : Consequently, my bottom teeth are very crooked. Not only that, but one of the teeth on one side grew in laying over sideways, almost flat, going towards the middle of my mouth. It wasn't something that anyone else could see, but it always really bothered me. It was very hard to floss around it, always was in the way of my tongue and so on. Finally a couple years ago (at age 40) I had it extracted. The tooth broke off during extraction because of the weird angle, so what was supposed to be a "simple extraction" turned into a mini surgery where the dentist had to cut into my gums to extract the roots of the tooth. This made the tooth beside the extracted tooth loose. A couple years later, it is STILL loose and the gumline there has dramatically receded, exposing the rooth of the tooth. I worry that it is only a matter of time before that tooth comes out, which will leave a big gaping hole in the right bottom row. Which will cause all of my bottom teeth to shift around and be wierd.

So, do I fervently wish my parents had followed the dentist's advice and extracted two teeth from my bottom row, also? YOU BET.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by BookishVonLiberal View Post
Always good to question any procedure, but know that orthodontia really does help people and isn't just for cosmetic purposes.
My teeth and jaw really don't fit. Not enough space for the teeth, lower jaw not matching up with the upper in size or alignment and the result was difficulty eating and PAIN.

I had three orthodontists recommend I get a specific surgery for my jaw and I declined because it freaked me out. I opted for the less horrifying extraction of one tooth, which helped, but didn't solve everything.

Dental problems tend to get worse as we age, and seeing what my dad (who passed down his dental issues) has gone through, makes me grateful I had some orthodontia.
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TMJ disorder can be caused by an uneven bite. And straight teeth are much easier to floss.


For those of you reading this thread who are going to put your kids in braces, may I suggest taking a look at this site:

www.damonbraces.com


(This is the type of braces we have my dd in.)


And I did briefly consider just letting her get braces as an adult, but it's much harder to move teeth as an adult. (The teeth and jaw become more "set.")



You mentioned the time and the pain........well, the Damon system reduces both of those. (The ortho estimated that my dd will only be in braces for 15 months and her teeth are quite messed up. They can even fix her overbite without headgear! That one blew me away. I hated my headgear!!!) And the price is about the same as the conventional braces.
post #11 of 14
My mom got extractions and braces when she was 38 years old. She had extra teeth and all were very crowded. She says she's very glad that she did it.

One of the reasons that ortho is becoming more commonplace is that most folks have more money now. It doesn't seem like it to us. Both my folks grew up in working poor families, what was considered lower middle income. Most modern folks have no clue what it was like. Ortho wasn't even an option, as just keeping a roof over their heads and food in their bellies was the priority. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the same situation today.

I know that ortho is expensive, and to tell the truth, it is almost always optional, not completely necessary for normal growth and developement. If you have the money for it, go for it. If not, don't worry too much. If your monetary situation changes, you may always return for ortho treatment. Your dc can always get ortho as an adult if it really bothers them.
post #12 of 14
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A&A - thanks for the Damon info!

Kathy
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by kathymuggle View Post
A&A - thanks for the Damon info!

Kathy
You're welcome!! I feel much better about putting my dd in braces with the Damon system as opposed to what I went through.
post #14 of 14
Thank you for the information on the Damon system. I'm looking into that for dd.

I *do* think that *some* orthodontia is over-done. That's certainly true of most medical procedures (does this count as a mecical procedure? Well, you know what I mean )

In my family though . . . oy. My daughter has inherited my teeth. My mom and aunt didn't have braces and it really shows. I don't know off hand if they have any problems because of that, but both of them have expressed how unhappy they are with their teeth and they wish they'd had work done when younger (though neither seems interested in doing it as an adult).

My teeth were pretty bad. Every which way, one growing back in my palate, etc. After braces I still have an overbite and my teeth are not perfectly straight but I am happy with the result. They are MUCH better than when they started.

And I should mention maybe I'm odd (I do have a pretty good pain tolerance) but I didn't find braces hurt. They were sore the day after adjusting but just sore. I wouldn't call it pain. Same with the palate expander I had.

But now my 9 year old has teeth like mine used to be. Her mouth is very crowded and teeth are coming in at weird angles because there is no room so we're heading down the road of orthadontia.

We're already pinching pennies as it is Anyone got any money they want to give me?
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