For once, I am proud to have GWB for a president

[JodiM]

I am sooo gad he signed for a law stopping the murder of innocent babies in the second and third trimester!!

[Potty Diva]

Oh my dear Jodi,

GWB can't pass anything..

He SIGNED a law, now it has to pass, but, hopefully it will not

Can this be moved to Activism please?

Gracias...

[JodiM]

Don't know how to move a post, sorry.

[oceanbaby]

Ditto what Potty Diva said.

I am left still waiting for a reason to be proud of him.

[Harper]

Already a done deal

It was passed by both the house and senate (they have to agree on the final language of the bill) it went to GWB for his signature and is now law. The senate and the house passed the bill before but BC vetoed it twice, I think.

Still searching for any reason to think he is not evil.

[chrissy]

I am left still waiting for a reason to be proud of him.

It's gonna be a looooooooooong wait!

[AnnMarie]

Re: For once, I am proud to have GWB for a president

Originally posted by JodiM
I am sooo gad he signed for a law stopping the murder of innocent babies in the second and third trimester!!

[Potty Diva]

Re: Re: For once, I am proud to have GWB for a president

my post went all weird :

[jeca]

I'm just curious, does the law allow for certain circumstances to be exceptions?

[leakyandsnort]

sadly, no...

There's no exception & I believe I heard today that there is going to be a legal challenge because no mention is made wrt the mother's health.

[Happypants]

no, it doesn't make any exceptions for the health of the mother. heard on the radio that some group is going to court to fight it based on that. can't remember what group, tho.

[Marg of Arabia]

[choli]

JodiM I am sooo gad he signed for a law stopping the murder of innocent babies in the second and third trimester!!

I'm sooo glad he's still allowing the murder of guilty babies!!

[Marlena]

For the record, it doesn't prevent abortions in the second and third trimester. Rather, it merely prohibits one particular procedure which was very rarely used for such abortions (which are, themselves, uncommon to begin with).

Without an exemption for the health of the woman, I predict that the ban will become toast in relatively short order.

[merpk]

Ahem.

Not only is there no exception for maternal health, but a specific bill that was identical to this one except that it included an exception for the mother's health [size=large] was beaten down by the President's party.[/size]

An attempt to pass the same law with the only difference between them being an exception for the mother's health was specifically defeated.

How many more times can it be said?

This has nothing to do with the specific procedure it outlaws, and nothing to do with concern for babies. And everything to do with political points, a foot in the door, etc., etc.

Unless, of course, the Republicans and their President simply really don't care about the lives of women at all, since they did not allow for an exception for maternal health, and specifically denied a bill with that provision in it.

Can I say it again?

No, I'm not proud either.

[AmyB]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by merpk
[B]Ahem.

Not only is there no exception for maternal health, but a specific bill that was identical to this one except that it included an exception for the mother's health [size=large] was beaten down by the President's party.[/size]

I'm not proud of this either. I think it's absolutely immoral to be willing to sacrifice the lives of women just to make an ideological point. This law will not save the life of one single baby. It's just a bad-intentioned attempt to insert politics into emergency medicine.

I get more and more disgusted with the current crop of Republicans every day.

--AmyB

[sm3247]

Originally posted by AmyB

I'm not proud of this either. I think it's absolutely immoral to be willing to sacrifice the lives of women just to make an ideological point. This law will not save the life of one single baby. It's just a bad-intentioned attempt to insert politics into emergency medicine.

I get more and more disgusted with the current crop of Republicans every day.

[/B]

Amen

[DebraBaker]

The mother's *life* is the one exception to this ban.

If the mother's *health* was being seriously compromised you could easily say that her life is threatened. I think there are cases in which "health" is defined too broadly.

This is a particularly henious procedure on an older fetus, it's disgusting.

Personally I'm proud of Bush. I don't think banning this particular type of abortion threatens the majority of abortions (done in the first trimester.)

Debra Baker

[jeca]

What is this particular procedure that is being banned?

I use to keep up with these things a long time ago but sadly it has now been put on the backl burner with so many other things.

[Potty Diva]

Originally posted by DebraBaker
The mother's *life* is the one exception to this ban.

If the mother's *health* was being seriously compromised you could easily say that her life is threatened. I think there are cases in which "health" is defined too broadly.

This is a particularly henious procedure on an older fetus, it's disgusting.

Personally I'm proud of Bush. I don't think banning this particular type of abortion threatens the majority of abortions (done in the first trimester.)

Debra Baker

And again, this won't stop late term abortions, they will only find another way to do them, and hopefully it won't put the mothers life/health at risk any more