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post #21 of 52
Was it "a month early" as in 32 weeks or a "a month early" as in 36 weeks? Convenient how 36/37 is term when OB's want to induce and section women for zomg! big babies and GD and because the big golf tournament is in two weeks, but if they want to demoralize someone's decision all of a sudden 36 weeks is "preterm".
post #22 of 52
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Originally Posted by aurora_skys View Post
Do we even know for sure that she was in active labor? For all we know it was just a trickle and her instincts/knowledge told her it was fine.

In an interview after Trig's birth Sarah Palin was quoted as saying that she knew that she was not in active labor when her water broke and that she called her Dr and cleared the flight with him. Since she had delivered 4 babies previously she felt she knew her body and that birth was not imminent. She didn't end up delivering Trig for 7-8 hours after she arrived at the hospital.
post #23 of 52
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Originally Posted by RomanGoddess View Post
Her body, her birth, her baby, her business. And I don't care if she is running for President of the Universe.

I gotta agree with this. And really, alot of the choices she has evidently made are different than what I would do, but they're HER CHOICES.
post #24 of 52
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Originally Posted by RomanGoddess View Post
Her body, her birth, her baby, her business. And I don't care if she is running for President of the Universe.
This.

Frankly, the author's sense of entitlement to Palin's private medical information is more astounding to me than anything else in that article.
post #25 of 52
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Originally Posted by Tiger Lily View Post
This.

Frankly, the author's sense of entitlement to Palin's private medical information is more astounding to me than anything else in that article.
yea, i thought that was weird too! when she was acting like she should be privy to all palins details... if someone said that to the author i bet she'd be outraged, lol.
post #26 of 52
So many people are bashing her for not racing to the dr... but she must recognize birth is a natural thing and nothing to freak out about. It's sad how judgmental people can be.
post #27 of 52
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Originally Posted by paquerette View Post
Was it "a month early" as in 32 weeks or a "a month early" as in 36 weeks? Convenient how 36/37 is term when OB's want to induce and section women for zomg! big babies and GD and because the big golf tournament is in two weeks, but if they want to demoralize someone's decision all of a sudden 36 weeks is "preterm".
She was 36 weeks. I know people who have UCed at 36 wks.
post #28 of 52
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Originally Posted by TCMoulton View Post
In an interview after Trig's birth Sarah Palin was quoted as saying that she knew that she was not in active labor when her water broke and that she called her Dr and cleared the flight with him. Since she had delivered 4 babies previously she felt she knew her body and that birth was not imminent. She didn't end up delivering Trig for 7-8 hours after she arrived at the hospital.
Thanks for that extra info!
post #29 of 52
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Originally Posted by meowee View Post
She was 36 weeks. I know people who have UCed at 36 wks.
Thanks for that tidbit... I was wondering that myself... Heh, I'm 32 weeks now, so I've been telling people I'm 8 months pregnant when they ask I would consider water breaking NOW to be preterm and would go to a hospital fairly quickly if I felt I needed to... I'd probably wait a while if it was a little leak and see if it sealed up. Cause a little leak can seal up! At 36 weeks, with a little leak... pfff. And that's cool because that's my choice.

It's a good thing I'm not running for public office because last night, I was having fairly strong contrax 4-5 minutes apart for 3 hours, even after drinking water, laying down all that... I had hubby take me to the bar for a screwdriver- that little shot of vodka relaxed the contrax completely away Hella better than laying in the hospital all night fighting off medical interventions!
post #30 of 52
My water broke--at trickle--at 35 weeks and I went into my doc--after wrapping up things around the house. I think I was panicked because it was so early. But as it was, labor didn't start on its own so I got to have a lot of fun interventions. This time if it happens again I will know a 35 weeker is not, for me, a huge emergency (DS was 6 lbs, my current ob said my baby now is a good size and they wouldn't try to stop labor) so I will stay at home and let labor progress on its own--but--I wouldn't get on a 7 hour plane flight.
post #31 of 52
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In an interview after Trig's birth Sarah Palin was quoted as saying that she knew that she was not in active labor when her water broke and that she called her Dr and cleared the flight with him. Since she had delivered 4 babies previously she felt she knew her body and that birth was not imminent. She didn't end up delivering Trig for 7-8 hours after she arrived at the hospital
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That's interesting to know. I've been a bit baffled to see her absolutely slammed by some folks I know are otherwise all for a woman knowing her own body and making her own birth choices.

It seems to me that after having 4 previous babies, having had a close eye on the baby because of the Downs Syndrome, and actually being the one living in her body, and the information above added to that, the choice she made was not such a horrifically dangerous and stupid thing as some want to make it out to be.
post #32 of 52
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Originally Posted by Tiger Lily View Post
This.

Frankly, the author's sense of entitlement to Palin's private medical information is more astounding to me than anything else in that article.

Yep, I agree with this, too. I think the author is way off base.
post #33 of 52
I actually found this article depressing. I've learned so much about birth on here and about empowering women when it comes to their births. This article just had an agenda against Palin and I'm afraid it comes off as "Make sure you never ever do anything like Sarah Palin. When your water breaks, rush off to the hospital and be a good little girl and do whatever the doctor tells you because the doctor knows best." It goes against so many things we preach around here. We KNOW our bodies and we can trust out bodies to birth. Quite frankly, I think a woman having her 5th kid can trust her instincts. Yes, there are fine birthing facilities in Texas but Palin knew where she wanted to birth - in a place she felt comfortable. Why is it a stretch to believe she knew her body would hold that baby in until it she was in a comfortable and supportive place. I feel like it's actually a step backwards for us and I wish the author found something else to criticize her about rather than drawing attention to this. And the whole idea that the author is entitled to Palin's medical records is absurd. The other thing that made me mad was the statement that Palin was using a family doctor and NOT an ob (like this was another risky and irresponsible move). Imagine if Palin had used a midwife??? Or even worse, what if she had a homebirth?

I feel like i want to shout at the author, "If you don't agree with her political views, attack that! Not her ability to trust her body to birth."
post #34 of 52
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Originally Posted by RomanGoddess View Post
Her body, her birth, her baby, her business. And I don't care if she is running for President of the Universe.
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post #35 of 52
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I feel like i want to shout at the author, "If you don't agree with her political views, attack that! Not her ability to trust her body to birth."
post #36 of 52
Here-- there are several hospitals that have a 6 hours from BOW breaking to labor... Crazy
post #37 of 52
I believe the actual ACOG standard of care is that labor must BEGIN within 24 hours, not be delivered...not that anyone follows that. :

I agree with those who are outraged at this journalist thinking her medical records should be public. I can't stand Palin and it makes me want to vomit to think of her as VP, but for a million other reasons than when she headed to the hospital after her water broke or how many friggin' kids she has. The irony of this is astounding too. A supposed feminist is going to go after her for this? Are we going to subpoena all presidential candidates' medical records to make sure we agree with how they're managing their PERSONAL health decisions?

and ditto absolutely everything dlm194 had to say. For this author to call herself prochoice is amazing too. Apparently you're only in charge of your own body when you want to have an abortion, after that it's time to submit to the medical authorities?

I just think this muddies so much for people. There is PLENTY to go after Palin for on a purely political level. No one needs to stoop to this level. It's very anti-woman.
post #38 of 52
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Originally Posted by cappuccinosmom View Post
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That's interesting to know. I've been a bit baffled to see her absolutely slammed by some folks I know are otherwise all for a woman knowing her own body and making her own birth choices.

It seems to me that after having 4 previous babies, having had a close eye on the baby because of the Downs Syndrome, and actually being the one living in her body, and the information above added to that, the choice she made was not such a horrifically dangerous and stupid thing as some want to make it out to be.
post #39 of 52
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Originally Posted by Turquesa View Post
ETA: Let's please say nothing on abortion or your pro-whatever stand on abortion or why you like or hate Palin or Republicans or Democrats or self-cleaning ovens or used car salespeople or whatever else. I'd like this not to suffer the same fate as too many other Sarah Palin threads, so thank you for keeping this birth-related .
Ok here goes....
Don't really know about the 24 hr rule an don't really care. I can't believe that this information about Palin (or anyone!) has been deemed valuable. Did you read the part about how Palin didn't get the medical release to fly? I am definately not a Palin supporter, but as a woman (and a thinking human!) this really does not seem like relevant information to me. Let's try to debunk Palin's ability to be a VP with relevant information, like maybe foreign policy or whether or not she supports a separation of church and state and not her ability to know her body.
post #40 of 52
I would definitely not be COMFORTABLE with a 7 hour plane ride under those circumstances...but she was going HOME (not flying away from home, kwim?). I would definitely wrestle with the pros and cons of getting on the plane vs. birthing in a strange hospital, FAR from home, away from family, and staying who knows how long afterwards, WITH a special needs baby. I am more incredulous at her going "back to work" (whatever that means) at 3 days PP, and the fact that DH took time off, but not her. I can see why she would do that, but don't necessarily think it's a wise choice. Still, HER choice. I don't like her, and I don't like politicians in general, but all this crap about her family is just a distraction from the real issues. I give John McCain a lot of credit for choosing her and all her backstory as a great way to get a lot of attention that has nothing to do with the issues.
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