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post #201 of 2251
Okay all, time for me to start obsessing.
I promised myself I wouldn't do it this month.......

My BBs hurt. J is nursing same as ever so I don't think it's nursing related.
(okay - I really hope it's not nursing related)
I keep getting crampy feelings.
(maybe in my head?)
I think we surely spelunked in time to catch that egg...

I'm testing tomorrow with FMU. (7 or 8 dpo) I know it's early but getting a + with J at 8dpo keeps me testing too soon....

Lord help me....I don't have to worry about two little ones taking the last of my sanity, I'm sure that will be long gone by the time I end up pregnant.
post #202 of 2251
Dunno if anyone here cares, but I wrote a story of how I got pregnant with dd. It's really long, so consider this your warning,
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...&postcount=215
post #203 of 2251
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Have you thought about birth plans yet?
We had a hb turned surprise unassisted last time. this time it will be a hb for sure. uc or not, don't know yet, but I am leaning towards at least an attended unassisted if that makes sense.

pbcup, carrot flowers sorry you ladies are feeling lonely.
you can pass me all that chocolate and whatever else you're having. that way you won't be so lonely (you'd have to meet with me to give me all that yummy stuff). *lol*
post #204 of 2251
Oh, neat. Thanks for sharing your story, Valeria

I think I know what you mean about attended unassisted... it sounds kind of like what I envision. I was actually on a UC mailing list for YEARS from the time I was 18 and read lots of birth stories and things. But I know myself, and I know how stressed out I can get, so I want to have someone there who knows what's going on -- since I've never had a baby before, right? So hopefully the midwife can just sorta help as needed and allay anxiety, basically. I wanted my mom to do this but alas, that's not to be.
post #205 of 2251
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Dunno if anyone here cares, but I wrote a story of how I got pregnant with dd. It's really long, so consider this your warning,
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...&postcount=215
awesome story
post #206 of 2251
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duder. i'm on day 2, too. well, sort of. day 2 1/2. anyway, all i want to do is eat. chocolate. cookies. just anything sweet and rich, really. it's unfortunate because i am slowly growing out of my clothes and this was supposed to be the weekend that i got my azz back in gear so i don't have to buy new clothes. i'm pretty sure the 84670538627 cookies worth of dough that i just consumed is not helping. blah.
anywho.
is yr etsy shop up and running? i wanna looksey!

on that note, minimunklemama , where can i find YOUR etsy shop?
Carrot flowers
I am sorry that the witch stopped by
eat ll the chocolate and dough you want hun,you'll be pg before you know it and growing out of your clothes faster than you can make the cookie

to find my store,go to etsy,scroll down the search tab on the upper left,to username and put in ponderingponteuf (one word)
I would link to it but I seem to be getting into enough trouble around here!!LOL

or you could just click on the link to my blog on the first page of this thread and there is a link to my store on the left hand side
I am working on new stuff this week so an update should be soon.
LMK what you think,
cheerio
post #207 of 2251
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Oh carrot! We are alone together! My Saturdays are always so depressing...DH has off on Mon and Tues...now what kind of weekend is that?? I almost wish I could just pop on over so we could watch a movie together in our lonely states. Hope you're ok!
On a side note, there is a concert in my neighborhood tonight! How weird is that? Took DD and doggie out for a stroll, heard music, followed, and ended up at a full blown 5ish band show down the street, in someone's back yard! I love how weird my town is!



Ooh ooh me me!! I am with you on the "how do you read your own??" I practice tons of kiniesiology but can never ask about myself or DD. I feel like I will bias it somehow...Actually, I KNOW I will. I convinced myself I'd be pg by Aug 7...WRONG!!!!! That was actually very close to my first PP O...but def not pg!



Oh so interesting! Can I pick your brain about trisomy 18?? What was your sister like? What does trisomy 18 mean? And what is trisomy 13? I find all of this so interesting, but don't know much about it.
Thanks for the comment on Ruby. She is certainly precious but crazy girl!!! Mini maybe you can give me advice on our current situation??? It hsa to do with sleeping and bfing...and a high maintenance kid...Let me know. Maybe I'll PM you and gte your expert advice, since you have three beauties already and must know wayyyy more than me!!!!!

We might be considering holding off TTC...or at least not trying. Everything feels so confusing because I am so tired. Maybe tomorrow I will have energy to think about it all.
PBC
I don't mind at all.
Trisomy 18 is the second most common trisomy after trisomy 21 (downs syndrome) trisomy 13 is the third most common. Apparently these three are the only FULL trisomys to lead to a live birth.Most don't make it outside the womb,those that do only live for a few hours but my sister was one of the few that ignore the statistics and lived for two months.She died the day before we were to bring her home
I willn ever forgive the nurse who took me away from the room while she passed in my mum's arms.When I got back,she was gone.Both from this earth and her room.I neverhad the chance to kiss her little head once more
She was a little peanut,weighing 3lbs 13 and 1/2 oz.I remeber her head being a little oddly shaped,that is par for the course with a lot of trisomy 18 babies,she was so peaceful and she had lots of strawberry blond hair.
All of her major organs were compromised.
It will be the 23rd anniversary of her death in October.I was ten at the time and I think the reason that added to the pain was because I had begged my Mum for four years (as soon as she married my wonderful step-father )for a sibling,unbeknownst to me she had suffered four or five m/c in that time also.
I rest knowing that while life for Samantha would have been full of love,it would have been painful amongst other things.That is why she was taken,to a place that I believe, she is running around as free as a bird and enjoying every.single.minute of it and watching down on us all along with her lost siblings and my two angels,keeping an eye on everything.

As for your current situation,feel free to pm me any q's you might have.It is a frustrating time and I remember going back and fourth on the whole having another baby scenario.When you are so tired everything seems so much worse.
The best piece of advice I was given is remember,the new baby is at least ten months away things will get better by then.
My first was a seriously high maintenence (sp?too early to spellcheck,sorry!!)Colic from 6-12pm EVERY friggin night for three LONG months,couple that with severe PPD on my part,let's just say,I am shocked that I went on to get pg four more times!!LOL
But...Things get better,I got help,the colic subsided.She is still high energy at six years old but I try to embrace it and nurture her to be who she is meant to be.I love her dearly and can't imagine life without her.But being honest here,there were many a day that I wanted to hand her off to the nearest person and RUN,RUNlike the wind.
I only BF her for ten weeks but the night nursing with the boys drained me.completely. At some point in the nursing relationship I just woke up and had that enough is enough look on my face,dug out the dr JAY Gorden night weaning (no flames anyone please,)advice and a week later we were sleeping better.
Now Ollie has been night weaned for a few months BUT he still wakes to come in to bed with us agin.Only this time,he sticks his finger in my belly button. It is his alternative to his NAY-NAY to make him feel safe and secure in the dark night. I'll be honest (again!!LOL) it is driving me nuts at the moment though because if I forget to trim his nails,it feels like he is sticking razor blades in there: I may just have to nip this in the bud soon.

Like I said,just PM me with any q's I would love to help.Just remember,it does get easier with a high maintenence child

Alrighty,
AFM OF COURSE I POAS again this morning,I thought that I saw the ghost of a line but my lack of sleep and coffee may well have had something to do with it so I am calling it a BFN unless I go back in a mo and see a distinct line.Good news is,I am out of tests and $$ so I have to go cold turkey until my original pee date of thursday!!

EVERYONE ELSE I hope you are all well,sorry I haven't had a chance to catch up on the posts,I will soon,as soon as I have refilled my cold and empty coffee cup,
post #208 of 2251
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i'm starting a new painting tonight. sometimes i paint in dh's studio with him to keep him company.
off to paint.... and screw.
Do you paint with oils or acrylics? I have a bunch of paintings to do (in oils) and am obviously convinced I'm pregnant so I'm wondering if I can paint while pregs, since there are a lot of solvents. I don't want to have my peeps wait 9 months! I was thinking of painting outside or something...

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Une TOPIQUE pour DISCUSSION
(believe it or not I was at one point fluent in French. Sad to have forgotten it.)
Have you thought about birth plans yet?
Moi aussi - about the french. I lived in Germany, too, and was conversationally fluent while there, and now I remember rien. Oh sh*t - that's french. haha. see?

Birth plan - yes. Hospital. I'm too chicken to do it at home and it's illegal in NC (unless it's an "accident") but I want it as natural as possible. Apparently at our hospital they have tubs, birthing balls, squat bars... but you're not allowed to GIVE BIRTH in the tub, just labor in it...: But I want a midwife - my practice has some - and a chill environment. My BF has already admitted that he might not be able to take it (He said HE would take the epidural since I won't) so I might ask my sister to join me so I don't give birh alone!

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I'm not PMSing, I'm not Oing...I'm doing nothing but spotting. For almost 7 days now...just in case you haven't seen my other pitiful posts today.
You're still BFing? Maybe your body is still regulating itself hormone wise. I went off the pill in May and had one regular cycle in July, then a crapload of bleeding for about a month, but now everything seems kosher. I think it could just be your body's way of getting it all together... hang in there!

MMM Yeah, I was asking my MIL questions about trisomy 18 because I wasn't actually sure what her daughter had had. My BF always just made it sound like a heart condition. So I wasn't sure if it was inherited. Which brought up a whole slew of issues. It's not inherited, but if you have a translocation, (an extra chromosome that is balanced by another extra chromosome somewhere else - so you are healthy and it doesn't affect you) you could pass that onto a child and then they could have a trisomy. So I was thinking, could my BF have a translocation? Could I? Should we get genetic testing done? But if we did get genetic testing done and one of us did have a translocation, would that mean we should stop trying and adopt instead? We both agreed we probably wouldn't but that brought us to the question of what if I got a screening when I was pregs and it came back at risk... would I want an amnio? I don't know if his mom got an amnio or not, but he said she knew her daughter had trisomy 18 before she was born. So they knew what she was facing. She never made it home from the hospital either... I think it was just a few days..

Anyway, then I told myself since I am obviously so pregnant I better stop worrying about such negative things

And then this morning I POAS - negative. At 7dpo, what a surprise! I might waste an FRER tomorrow. But my luteal phases so far have been only 7-9 days MAX and I'm already at 7 now, so that is a good sign. And NO sign of spotting anywhere. My nips are not as sore as before, but my bbs are more sore. My OPK is lighter than that one time 3 days ago. But listen to this... my OPKs before O are darker at night than with FMU. After O, they have been darker with FMU than at night... maybe it's because I have HCG in my system???....

OK, well girls, now that I've written a novel all about myself, I will go. I am trying to get some sewing done today. I made a really cute tent dress a few weeks ago that would also be a great tunic when pregs, so I want to make more.

Love yous!! See you later.

Oh yes, and Zen me thinky you pregy.
post #209 of 2251
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Originally Posted by gbutterflykissesm;12170395

So. [B
AFM[/B] I had a nice day walking downtown and at the farmer's market with my BF and his mama. she's awesome. I tried out my concoction I've been thinking of to scent my homemade sugar scrubs - patchouli and vanilla. Smells delicious and BF likes it (although if I told him patchouli was in it I'm sure he would say he didn't...). And I had to come up with an excuse to go to the "natural" children's store where they have birthing classes and the like. Felt weird looking around in front of MIL - she doesn't know we're TTC. I was also grilling her at lunch because she had a baby with trisomy 18, and then I realized I shouldn't ask so many questions if I don't want her to know that we're trying!!
You're MIL probably skipped all the way home with a big grin on her face thinking there is a baby coming in the near future. Hope you make her a gramma soon
My oldest daughter is 10 and already I can't wait to spoil grandkids!
post #210 of 2251
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Originally Posted by binkin View Post
Oh, neat. Thanks for sharing your story, Valeria

I think I know what you mean about attended unassisted... it sounds kind of like what I envision. I was actually on a UC mailing list for YEARS from the time I was 18 and read lots of birth stories and things. But I know myself, and I know how stressed out I can get, so I want to have someone there who knows what's going on -- since I've never had a baby before, right? So hopefully the midwife can just sorta help as needed and allay anxiety, basically. I wanted my mom to do this but alas, that's not to be.
I don't want to turn this into a debate on assisted vs. unassisted. I have had a hospital birth (horrid) and a home birth with my 2nd (wonderful). I was pregnant with #3 and had planned for a home birth but then lost the baby. Now...if we get pregnant again I do not know what we will do. Losing our baby has made me so much more aware of pregnancy and birth loss. I think of the "what ifs". What if my midwife can't get a heartbeat or it is erratic and we can't transfer in time...etc. etc. But then I just tell myself to just get pregnant first and take it from there. The thought of going to the hospital for a birth scares the cr*p out of me but if that ever were the case then I know my midwife would be the primary caregiver.

Having said all that...I personally would never have an unassisted birth. There is too much potential for loss...of both the baby and the mother. I'm an emergency dispatcher and there are too many horror stories filed away in my brain.
post #211 of 2251
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Une TOPIQUE pour DISCUSSION
(believe it or not I was at one point fluent in French. Sad to have forgotten it.)
Have you thought about birth plans yet?
Not really. At one point, I did a cursory check of what was available around here, and it seems that only direct-entry midwives do home births around here. I don't know that I'm comfortable with that. I've heard good things about a midwife near me (I'm in Regent Sq., for Binkin and anyone else familiar with Pittsburgh), but he's a dude, and I'd really, really rather have a woman with me.

I think it will be the midwifery center at the local women's hospital. I've heard good things about the practice, and while it isn't a home birth, I'll be in the hospital if, g'd forbid, I should need to be. There's a free-standing birth center in the city, but the hospital it's associated with wouldn't be my first choice. Since I am a pessimist when I plan stuff, that's a consideration.

The BF jokes that, if I'm set on a home birth, we have a neighbor who's a professor of maternal-fetal medicine, and we can just invite her for dinner and not tell her I'm in labor until it's too late

Binkin, if you're aware of other resources in the Burgh, I'd love to hear about them.



Also: I took a spin through etsy-land, and there's some really fine-looking stuff there, you know?
post #212 of 2251
Ack! I don't think I could handle a male midwife, which is maybe very biased of me, but....

I'll have to look through my links and stuff, but I remember finding the Midwife Center dahnna Strip and thinking it seemed promising. One other thing (this is how I found midwives around where I live now) -- go up to the Find Your Tribe board local tribes and ask. There are probably lots of Pittsburgh mamas with thoughts.

I used to work for UPMC (aaaack!) and was born at Magee, myself. (I think 70% of Pittsburghers were, for real.)
post #213 of 2251
Thread Starter 

is this thing on...

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You can haz pity party!


Much loff, and may ricking good times come your way tomorrow.
OMG. that was the best thing ever. I love yoouz.

okay.

how about this ya'll.

ITS...........................:


CD1!!!!!!!!!!!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!!!!!


Can you feel the excitement? HUH? CAN YOU?

Wheres my Reddi Whip....

No actually. I'm in CRAMPING HELL. I always forget this detail, until its happening. I get MAJOR crampage on the DAY flo comes. Which happened to be at 2am last night. Which had me in FETAL all night, scrounging around ever crevice of the house for the damn MIA bottle of MIDOL (which is THE ONLY thing that actually gives me some relief). To no avail.

Bastard.

So I'm CD1. And honestly THRILLED. I think I shall have chocolate pecan pie for breakfast. Mimosa's anyone? I didn't like this cycle anyway - dammit. It made me neurotic from DAY18.

I'm going to the nutritionist next week - am going to go for my first round of acupuncture as well. I'm going to do yoga AT LEAST twice a week this month...and I'm NOT TEMPING (okay..maybe JUST around ovulation...to confirm the day it happenend?). Ya'll please hold me to this?

Gbutt - thank you for your incredible show of dedication to this being 'my month'.

Binkin - I haz Rosetta Stone, French level 1 & 2? Does this make me cool? Uhh...I have a doohler in my uterus. Do you know THAT ONE!? Husband and I were in various parts of France for about 3 weeks during our 6month jaunt after we married. France is hands down our favorite place in todo el mundo. We don't know JACK about how to work anything in this country with flour. There is NO COMPARISON. There is nothing in this world like a true baguette - pan au chocolate, or choisson. they are magical. The french country - is my idea of heaven. We seriously have plotted ways to become expats. We may try to go Canadian first as a stepping stone. Especially if McScaresme gets elected as next Prez.

Then people won't look at us all like HUH? when we name our child AMELIE. haaaaaaaaaaa.

Okay. done. sorry to take up so much space....
post #214 of 2251
Zen, I gotsta say, on the whole I agree with you that we can't bake worth a damn here. HOWEVER. Mancini's bread in Pittsburgh makes a fine, fine baguette, and Le Panier in Seattle has omfg croissants amandine and pain au chocolat and asdlkghsdgh drool drool pant. OK. I get immigration newsletters from France and the UK, so I understand le expat thing.

I am sorry that AF has shown up for you. To put a wholly selfish spin on it, we iz practically cyclebuddies! conceptioncat sez we can haz baby next time around, right? RIGHT!

I need to either take a shower or go back to bed, but I lack the motivation to do either. Zonk.
post #215 of 2251
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Yeah, I've got that whole ennui thing going on today too. We were going to go shopping a bit, but decided to do it tomorrow, and I'm feeling bleh about everything at this point. It's like it's a Sunday afternoon, and I've already taken all the baths I can usefully take... ooh. bath. Now there's an idea.

Une TOPIQUE pour DISCUSSION
(believe it or not I was at one point fluent in French. Sad to have forgotten it.)
Have you thought about birth plans yet? Z and I have agreed on a homebirth with a midwife and a rental tub. We live literally five minutes' walk from the hospital, should it be needed. But I was shocked when I brought the idea up, expecting some resistance, and he said "women have been having babies for thousands of years without hospitals, it's not like it's a disease or something."

I've already contacted a few midwives in the area, although obviously we haven't picked one yet or anything, but there are at least several who are willing to come to our house. Then again, if my due date ends up being in the summer... I might go for a birthing center instead since they'll have AC and I don't
J'adore France.Je parle Francais aussi,mai lentement,Maintenant! J'ai oublie (where's the accent button for the e???) beaucoup !!
I love France.I got together with DH in May 01,my plan was (before we got together)to pack in my job and head to France,work there and marry a French hunk Funny how things work out

I have lived in Germany,Austria and Switzerland (Zurich) so I speak German too but it doesn't turn hubby on anywhere near as much as the French,oohh lala.Many a time I have called him a sh!t head or SOB and he just thinks is beautiful!!!LOL

As for birthplans,I wanted a homebirth with Ollie but hubby was nervous so I found a great doc (I told her that the M.D after her name actually stood for midwife in disguise!!)who left me to my own devices
we are now in a different state and with my speedy labors,
1,we would never make it to CT
2, considering Ollie was 47 minutes total we are probably looking at an unintentional UC!! LOL
we'll see when/if we are blessed again.
post #216 of 2251
Zen,
great attitude Lady!!
I have to agree on the whole bread/French thing.The only decent croissant that I have had since living here is when I stumbled upon a bakery in PA owned by a little old French lady who baked everything from scratch above the store OMG they were divine!!!!
post #217 of 2251
Thread Starter 

Goin' Green, Stretch, and Aufilia

(binkin HAZ gotten into my brain...GET OUT BINKIN!) lol

Do you haz a baby for us???
post #218 of 2251
all, you were so encouraging, I caved in and tested this morning. it's a BFN. and my temp didn't go up today either. although yesterday was a bit crazy as far as temps go, and it didn't plumet down terribly - it is still within the range of what it's been for the past couple of days. but yep - a bfn it is.
post #219 of 2251
Thread Starter 
Im in a sharing mood...

Enjoy this tune...brought to you by yours truly.

I heart Jason Mraz + Tristan Prettyman.

How cute is he?

If you like what you hear, you will want to go directly to ITUNES and download the following songs by Tristan Prettyman:

Simple As It Should Be
Breathe

Have a good day. :-)

NO WAIT! I got one more for ya...

Our WEDDING SONG. This bluegrass band played at our wedding. This song makes me BAWL! BUT HAPPY BAWL!!!

Okay...I'm REALLY DONE NOW. (hope this doesn't get me arrested an shyte)
post #220 of 2251
Zen, girl, I love your attitude! So I'll celebrate cd1 with you. pass me that mimosa.
hope you feel better as far as cramps go.
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