BOOK CLUB FOR Twilight series - Page 6

[battymama]

Originally Posted by CashewMommy

I started Twilight on Thanksgiving day and read it twice before reading the other three. I finished BD yesterday and it was almost a relief to no longer feel the all-consuming need to read read read. A LOT of things went undone during the past week! I have mixed feelings about these books as teen/YA reading. On the one hand, it's probably more intense than a lot of people think would be appropriate for that demographic. However, I don't think that teens are any strangers to intense feelings and I can certainly remember having quite intense feelings myself when I was the age of this series' target audience. However, even though Edward is PERFECT in my mind *sigh* I don't care for the idea of "I love you so much that my life is meaningless without you and I will kill myself rather than live without you" mentality being presented so positively to that audience. But selfishly and without regard for the "target" audience, I LOVED this story. I've read Rice's vampire books and liked them, but I liked these differently. I loved the passion between Bella and Edward more than anything. Anyone have any recommendations for books that I might enjoy that have a similar "feel" to them? The vampire bit is interesting, but not critical for what I'm looking for.

Oh, and I have no desire to see the movie. I never like movie adaptations, although I'm relieved that so many here feel that these movies are better than the HP ones - bleh.

I would suggest Kelley Armstrong http://www.kelleyarmstrong.com/ especially the werewolf series which starts with bitten. They are a really good read, and another that i read over and over. I am so hooked with paranormal romance! its like mills and boons with vampires! Love it. I have another series that i am about to start reading when i get time, i will let you know if it is good

[Picturesque]

Thanks for all the reading suggestions. I'm going to check some of these out. I've felt a void in my life with no all-consuming reading passion in it! BTW, is anyone else enjoying the chapter playlists on Meyer's website? Not only is it great music, but I feel that knowing what song she would assign to each chapter helps me to get an even better "feel" for what she was doing throughout the books. *Sigh* At some point I'll re-enter the real world...

[Stayseeliz]

I just finished Breaking Dawn. So many thoughts!!! The last book was so different than the first three! And so good! I really enjoyed it. I almost feel relieved in a way because I don't feel this compulsion to read anymore and I can do other things like knit, etc. BUT I started the first book over again right away. It just needs another read through!!

[Stayseeliz]

Has anyone come across a decent fansite with some in depth discussion on the books? I just finished the saga and I'm dying to have a really deep conversation about it. But all the sites I've seen go something like this.

"OMG Edward is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dreamy!!! How did Bella say no to him the first time he proposed??? She's so crazy!!! Why didn't she say yes?? He's soooooooooooooo dreamy" etc, etc, etc... ARGH!!!

[AngieB]

Originally Posted by Stayseeliz

Has anyone come across a decent fansite with some in depth discussion on the books? I just finished the saga and I'm dying to have a really deep conversation about it

What are we, chopped Liver?

[Picturesque]

Originally Posted by AngieB

What are we, chopped Liver?

This! I'm up for a discussion. (I do think Edward is *so* dreamy, but I'll try to stay on topic).

[Stayseeliz]

You guys aren't chopped liver! I just feel like I've kinda been talking to myself on this thread the last few days! If you guys are up for it let's go!!! I've been thinking about my favorite moments from BD..Any thoughts??

Of and Edward is DREAMY!! I just want to discuss this with someone who can form coherent sentences!!

[Stayseeliz]

You guys aren't chopped liver! I just feel like I've kinda been talking to myself on this thread the last few days! If you guys are up for it let's go!!! I've been thinking about my favorite moments from BD..Any thoughts??

OH and Edward is DREAMY!! I just want to discuss this with someone who can form coherent sentences!!

[Stayseeliz]

Okay will I'm awake and thinking about it so I'm just gonna talk to myself some more. After some reading I've been doing on the web the last few days I've been thinking about a couple of issues. First of all, Bella's belief that she can't live without Edward or her desire not to. I think that's a trait of vampires or vampiric (is that a word??) love. The bond is deep and strong and you are one. Classic love story stuff.

As for Bella being an anti-feminist I don't see that either. She becomes exactly who she is destined to be. A very strong vampire. I know she talks in BD about how she was never particularly good at any one thing during her human life and it was as if it had all been preparation for her immortal life. That fleshes out for me.

It was interesting to watch Edward mature over the course of the series too. He's so overprotective at first then he realizes that she can and should make her own decisions and lets her be who she is supposed to be.

Lots of thoughts on the ending scenes. With the Volturi. SM certainly left lots of material for a continuation or branching out with the story later. I'd like to read more about Jacob and Renesmee as she gets older.

[Picturesque]

I too, feel that the concept of fate plays strongly throughout the entire series. DH and I are reading through Twilight together now (he's a good sport) and he was commenting last night that from early on there are subtle markers that suggest that Bella already has some vampire tenancies (unexplained pale skin, ability to smell blood, old soul). I think it's fascinating to watch the characters develop - the Bella in Twilight is so different from the BD Bella, both before and after the transformation. I think a lot of her growth occurs during Edwards absence in NM. Almost like the separation was a necessary step in the strengthening of their relationship. Throughout the last books I kept thinking of the idea of imprinting and how strong the pull is described as being. But the pull doesn't appear to be any stronger than the pull btw Edward and Bella. I kept expecting some discussion of a vampire equivalent. But the draw of E and B together was just as instantaneous, though both initially tried to resist. I, too, would love to read more (lots more) about the story of Jacob and Renesmee. I think a seven year childhood would be interesting - I believe that she could be physically mature in that amount of time, but I wonder if Jacob's attraction to her would then shift to a romantic one, despite her only having 7 years of life experience. Of course, I'd want lots and lots of continuing story about Edward and Bella, too. Particularly if there is more pillow and bedframe destruction involved.

[Stayseeliz]

I think Edward and Bella did draw a parallel once between imprinting and their relationship. E said that imprinting was different and strong and almost as much as he feels about her. So I thought that was interesting. The imprinting doesn't weird me out so much since they discuss a lot how the men are just concerned about the kids being happy and there is no sexual component there until they're much older. Like Edward mentioning at the end how Jacob didn't react when Nahuel said Nessie would be "of age" in 6 1/2 years. He doesn't think about her like that right now.

I love the difference between Bella as a human and Bella in BD too. I remember her being so frustrated in Eclipse when Victoria and Edward were fighting and all she could do was stand there and watch. Then she ended up being able to protect everyone at the end. Pretty cool. Being a vampire WAS her destiny.

[MelanieMC]

Well, I've been so busy this weekend and the first part of the week that I haven't been able to start Eclipse yet! I'm planning on reading it this weekend and hopefully move on to breaking dawn right away!

Have any of you been reading the outakes and extras that are on stephanie meyer's website? I really liked reading the extras for new moon. I can't wait to finish all of the series so I can really jump in for discussion!

BTW, I think it would be great if we could start a new thread for those who've finished all of the series so that we could have in-depth discussions of the books without having to risk spoiling anything for others. Just a thought.

Oh, and ITA that Edward is sooo dreamy!

[AngieB]

Originally Posted by Stayseeliz

Okay will I'm awake and thinking about it so I'm just gonna talk to myself some more. After some reading I've been doing on the web the last few days I've been thinking about a couple of issues. First of all, Bella's belief that she can't live without Edward or her desire not to. I think that's a trait of vampires or vampiric (is that a word??) love. The bond is deep and strong and you are one. Classic love story stuff.

As for Bella being an anti-feminist I don't see that either. She becomes exactly who she is destined to be. A very strong vampire. I know she talks in BD about how she was never particularly good at any one thing during her human life and it was as if it had all been preparation for her immortal life. That fleshes out for me.

It was interesting to watch Edward mature over the course of the series too. He's so overprotective at first then he realizes that she can and should make her own decisions and lets her be who she is supposed to be.

Lots of thoughts on the ending scenes. With the Volturi. SM certainly left lots of material for a continuation or branching out with the story later. I'd like to read more about Jacob and Renesmee as she gets older.

I think that towards the end of NM Bella was getting to the point were she could see her life without Edward, she even stated that she could picture her life with Jacob, having children with him and being happy. I think that if Edward had not come back that she would have always loved him but been able to move on and have a good and loving life with Jacob. I think that each persons take on this is different depending on weither you believe in fate and soulmates. I personally do not believe in soul mates. If I had not meet and married my dh I think I would have married someone else and had a good and happy life.


Meyer's has said in interviews that she thinks she will write more about Jacob and Renesmee, but that Edward and Bella's story in done. Did anyone else feel like Meyers was setting up another love triangle between Jacob, Renesmee and the South American half-vampire at the end of BD?

Meyer's seems to have a thing for the love triangles. There is the Bella/Edward/Jacob one. The Sam/Leah/Sam's new girlfriend one. In her book the Host I've read that there in a love triangle going on and then if my guess is correct there will be on with Jacob and Renesmee.

[Stayseeliz]

Originally Posted by AngieB

I think that towards the end of NM Bella was getting to the point were she could see her life without Edward, she even stated that she could picture her life with Jacob, having children with him and being happy. I think that if Edward had not come back that she would have always loved him but been able to move on and have a good and loving life with Jacob. I think that each persons take on this is different depending on weither you believe in fate and soulmates. I personally do not believe in soul mates. If I had not meet and married my dh I think I would have married someone else and had a good and happy life.

Meyer's has said in interviews that she thinks she will write more about Jacob and Renesmee, but that Edward and Bella's story in done. Did anyone else feel like Meyers was setting up another love triangle between Jacob, Renesmee and the South American half-vampire at the end of BD?

Meyer's seems to have a thing for the love triangles. There is the Bella/Edward/Jacob one. The Sam/Leah/Sam's new girlfriend one. In her book the Host I've read that there in a love triangle going on and then if my guess is correct there will be on with Jacob and Renesmee.

I don't see Bella just eventually moving on and being happy with Jacob if Edward hadn't come back. I think their bond was so strong that it would've always been there and she wouldn't have quite gotten over it. I could see her being with Jacob in a way but it would almost be like she was a widow with something always missing.

I think there will be a love triangle if Meyer writes more about Jacob and Renesmee. I would love to see a story about them. He's imprinted on HER but she still has a choice to make. I'd love to see that story!

I have The Host on hold at the library. Hoping I get it soon. It looks interesting!!

[JenniferH]

I read Twilight last night in one sitting. I was hesitant to do so, because I don't usually like YA romance. Just not my thing, but I do love vampire stories.

Although the book was better than I anticipated, it wasn't the best thing I've ever read. I couldn't deny the compulsion to turn the page, nor the sexual tension between Edward and Bella, but I prefer a little more....mature vampire love story.

I'm going to get the other books in paperback and try to finish them before the end of the year.

I'll report back with my findings.

[Stayseeliz]

Originally Posted by JenniferH

I read Twilight last night in one sitting. I was hesitant to do so, because I don't usually like YA romance. Just not my thing, but I do love vampire stories.

Although the book was better than I anticipated, it wasn't the best thing I've ever read. I couldn't deny the compulsion to turn the page, nor the sexual tension between Edward and Bella, but I prefer a little more....mature vampire love story.

I'm going to get the other books in paperback and try to finish them before the end of the year.

I'll report back with my findings.

And I guess this is why I love these stories so much. I'm not really big on the really sexual love stories. I know that's a big part of romantic love and it's there but I like something left to the imagination. But that's just me..

[JenniferH]

Originally Posted by Stayseeliz

And I guess this is why I love these stories so much. I'm not really big on the really sexual love stories. I know that's a big part of romantic love and it's there but I like something left to the imagination. But that's just me..

Oh, I LOVE the romance aspect of this story, but I also like a more mature relationship between characters. I read somewhere that Twilight is supposed to be a metaphor for the virtue of chastity, but I don't know...

I have also read the Laurel K. Hamilton Vampire Hunter series, and I just think the main character has continued to lose her humanity the longer the story plays out. I like a little smut, but some of the newer books in that series are just too much for me.

I will say that reading Twilight has made me want to lie in a sunny meadow with my love and brush his skin with my fingertips and lips. (I don't get to see him much.) Other than that, I'm hoping the later books get a little racier.

[Leilamus]

Originally Posted by Stayseeliz

This is interesting. The director of Twilight won't return for the second movie. I've got mixed feelings about. I loved the FEEL of the movie. Kinda edgy, etc. But there was a good bit of cheese in there. I'm hoping they won't rush it too much. It could really leave a bad taste in people's mouths!

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies....sequel-reuters

i hate to say it, but i think they're going to kill the 2nd movie. they're talking about recasting the actor who played Jacob too. i'm not too hopeful but we'll see. the director they want did the adaptation of Golden Compass so there's some hope but they need a big enough budget to make some key scenes in New Moon work.

[Stayseeliz]

Originally Posted by Leilamus

i hate to say it, but i think they're going to kill the 2nd movie. they're talking about recasting the actor who played Jacob too. i'm not too hopeful but we'll see. the director they want did the adaptation of Golden Compass so there's some hope but they need a big enough budget to make some key scenes in New Moon work.

Oh I think movie companies are almost contractually obligated to screw up books-to-movies. With a series they make the first one good enough to give people hope then destroy the others. So depressing..I think they need to stick with Taylor Lautner, bulk him up, etc and just do the best they can. They're so stinking greedy. The first movie made money hand over first and they barely up the budget of the second one..Not too smart..

[the_lissa]

I will be pissed if they recast Jacob. I think it is the best casting decision of the movie, but thank god they are getting rid of the director. Rushing the movie sucks though.