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[journeymom]

Originally Posted by Aubergine68

Not going to touch the hobbitish love of mushrooms ...

But why?

[eilonwy]

Originally Posted by mercyn

gawd, i know, i HATE being cute. not that cute is bad-- but people don't take you seriously when you're short. at *all*.
no, i don't know from minnesotan men. might have to find out!

everybody's answering as if i assumed all y'all were fat! that was actually not a general question; it was directed at eilonwy since she was the one who said she was fat and had short legs and so preferred skinny men i was trying to compare to her. dunno why i do that, but seeing if i was fatter. but it's funny anyhow, since y'all are assuming you're fat

: Hilarity. For some reasons I stopped getting notifications on this thread. In any case, I'm almost 5'1" in Skechers and I weigh about 215. I'm a size 14 right now, though, all boobs and booty and very large bones. I'm a mesomorph and built like a brick sh*******. Short thick thighs + skinny guys =

see, though? the hobbits are short and nobody takes them seriously either. you get treated like a child more often. and it's weird-- when i see other short women, i mean *really* short, like me, especially older ones-- i wonder if i look that silly. because i do think they look silly. so tiny! if i wasn't so fat, i might be that tiny, too. it looks so weird to me!

Not only am I short and round, I'm extremely baby-faced. I will never be "pretty," "beautiful," or "hot;" I'm stuck with "cute" for the rest of my natural life. Baby-faced, cute people are far less likely to be convicted of crimes involving premeditation, but we're much more likely to be convicted of crimes involving negligence. : It means that when I get pulled over, I'm a lot more likely to get a ticket for failing to heed traffic signals than for speeding.

As to the pace... I'm barely keeping up. I'm a very fast reader, but my life is absolutely *insane*. : Anyone want to help me manifest a house? :

[Aubergine68]

Originally Posted by journeymom

But why?

...because, although I love most hobbitish comforts and passions, I actually do not like mushrooms myself.

....and I bet someone else here can do the mushrooms more justice than I could? (anyone?)

[eilonwy]

Mmmmm.... mushrooms.

I want pizza.

[journeymom]

Originally Posted by Aubergine68

...because, although I love most hobbitish comforts and passions, I actually do not like mushrooms myself.

....and I bet someone else here can do the mushrooms more justice than I could? (anyone?)

Oh, okay! I was afraid you were tying it into some sort of hallucinogenic mushroom addiction thing and I was going to have to scold you for being unreasonable!

Disliking mushrooms is just fine.

I love mushrooms fried up with butter and white wine. Mmmm!

I've now added 'hobbitish' to my operating system's dictionary.

[wombatclay]

I'm still not a huge fan of mushrooms, but when I was a kid I hated them until I convinced myself that I "was" a hobbit for the duration of any meal involving mushrooms. I now actually order things with mushrooms on purpose but every time I do I think about Frodo!

Interesting point about Pippin being the more capable "bridge" in this chapter. He does seem to be the most "happy go lucky" and "accident prone" of the fellowship as they go on.

(and Galadriel as a feminist hera? Hmmmmm.... I could see that going either way, especially once you add in her backstory. What a fun, and most likely never "winable" discussion)

And one chapter a week it shall be! I'm totally good with that, and it's much easier for someone who has read ahead to "come back" to a discussion than for someone to feel stressed about "catching up" to that discussion. (my life is a bit crazy too so I feel the literature denied pain... we went to the book sale and I have luscious unread by me books sitting on the shelf and no time to give them an honest moment. ARGH!!!!!)

[CariOfOz]

Originally Posted by Aubergine68

...because, although I love most hobbitish comforts and passions, I actually do not like mushrooms myself.

....and I bet someone else here can do the mushrooms more justice than I could? (anyone?)

LOL > I do love mushrooms, but sadly it is 730am and I have had no coffee yet and do not feel compelled to defend their honour today

Originally Posted by wombatclay

I'm still not a huge fan of mushrooms, but when I was a kid I hated them until I convinced myself that I "was" a hobbit for the duration of any meal involving mushrooms. I now actually order things with mushrooms on purpose but every time I do I think about Frodo!

That is about the funniest coping mechanism I've heard yet Wonder if that'd work for my boys.. if a mushroom contacts their plate they act as if I've poisoned them

[Aubergine68]

Originally Posted by wombatclay

(and Galadriel as a feminist hera? Hmmmmm.... I could see that going either way, especially once you add in her backstory. What a fun, and most likely never "winable" discussion)

Well, honestly, I don't think either of us did the debate full justice. I look forward to Lothlorien, and thinking about this more then.

Originally Posted by CariOfOz

LOL > I do love mushrooms, but sadly it is 730am and I have had no coffee yet and do not feel compelled to defend their honour today

Oh, coffee! Good idea! That's what I need (I'm using my day off to finish a course paper and procrastinating frequently).

Originally Posted by eilonwy

Mmmmm.... mushrooms.

I want pizza.

Ok, there *can* be mushrooms on pizza, if they are just smothered with cheese, but I never put them on myself. And I *do* think mushrooms are aesthetically cute, especially those Waldorfy felted ones that gnomes live under.

[CariOfOz]

Originally Posted by Aubergine68

Oh, coffee! Good idea! That's what I need (I'm using my day off to finish a course paper and procrastinating frequently).

hehehe Excellent, I'm happy to assist you in your shirking of duties (in true hobbit fashion to keep this OT

Ok, there *can* be mushrooms on pizza, if they are just smothered with cheese, but I never put them on myself. And I *do* think mushrooms are aesthetically cute, especially those Waldorfy felted ones that gnomes live under.

Although I do believe those are toadstools aren't they? Either way, just adorable

[Maiasaura]

i haven't been getting notifications, either. hmm. from any of my threads!

Originally Posted by eilonwy

In any case, I'm almost 5'1" in Skechers and I weigh about 215. I'm a size 14 right now, though, all boobs and booty and very large bones. I'm a mesomorph and built like a brick sh*******. Short thick thighs + skinny guys =

Not only am I short and round, I'm extremely baby-faced. I will never be "pretty," "beautiful," or "hot;" I'm stuck with "cute" for the rest of my natural life. Baby-faced, cute people are far less likely to be convicted of crimes involving premeditation, but we're much more likely to be convicted of crimes involving negligence. : It means that when I get pulled over, I'm a lot more likely to get a ticket for failing to heed traffic signals than for speeding.

so you are very nearly my size! i am just under 5'1" and 195. HUGE boobages and butt. we should compare photos

i hear ya about getting away with things, though. way back in the day, i used to cute my way out of so many things. and INTO, like in getting my car fixed for free or a couple of beers or something.

Originally Posted by wombatclay

I'm still not a huge fan of mushrooms, but when I was a kid I hated them until I convinced myself that I "was" a hobbit for the duration of any meal involving mushrooms. I now actually order things with mushrooms on purpose but every time I do I think about Frodo!

(and Galadriel as a feminist hera? Hmmmmm.... I could see that going either way, especially once you add in her backsto

about being a Hobbit! i used to hate mushrooms. i used to say they were like biting into somebody's cheek but i love them, now!

Galadriel-- how do you SAY that? is there a pronunciation guide somewhere?

[wombatclay]

http://inogolo.com/pronunciation/Galadriel

You didn't think it would be out there, did ya?

I'm not that round/tiny but I used to be able to play up the cute card. People usually compared me to Ed in Cowboy BeBop, if that provides a visual. Goofy, bouncy, "aaaaaaaaaw" response from the bigger/wiser/stronger/bigger folks. Lots of high power puppydog eyes, lash flutter, lip quiver. Matched with punkie clothing and bondage gear.

Sigh. Those were the days!

(I should find pictures... I look so respectobibble these days)

[aweynsayl]

i caught up! i caught up! we didnt nap yesterday, so we fell asleep early, and i managed to stay awake long enough to read last week and this week! huzzah!

i used to like mushrooms.... but while i was pregnant i could not even smell them, and like so many of my many pregnancy aversions, i have not gotten over it yet! ick ick ick.

i'm not short, i have no boobs, i have no butt..... what am i doing in this thread?? no maternity clothes fit me.... anything that fit my gargantuan belly (11 lb baby, very short waist, so he was allll out front, lol) was far far far too genrous in the boobage alotment. i really ought to have taken photos. it was rather comical.... i do look rather young for my age, though. and tend towards the "sweet"... blond hair, green eyes, pale skin, rosey cheeks....

[eilonwy]

Pregnancy aversions are so weird that way. Cravings, too. Except Tang. I love that stuff while I'm pregnant, but the mere idea of it when I'm not... :

[Aubergine68]

Originally Posted by eilonwy

Pregnancy aversions are so weird that way. Cravings, too. Except Tang. I love that stuff while I'm pregnant, but the mere idea of it when I'm not...:

Lol! With my middle child, all I wanted in the first trimester was orange-colored food. Oranges, creamsicles, cheese buns, nacho dip, cheese doodles...and Tang.....Surprised he didn't come out orange....

[CariOfOz]

Originally Posted by aweynsayl

i'm not short, i have no boobs, i have no butt..... what am i doing in this thread?? no maternity clothes fit me.... anything that fit my gargantuan belly (11 lb baby, very short waist, so he was allll out front, lol) was far far far too genrous in the boobage alotment.

I have plenty of cleavage, so I hereby offer to donate a few pounds of my generous T&A to you hun Now onto the problem of postage... lol

Originally Posted by Aubergine68

Lol! With my middle child, all I wanted in the first trimester was orange-colored food. Oranges, creamsicles, cheese buns, nacho dip, cheese doodles...and Tang.....Surprised he didn't come out orange....

For me it was doritos & bacon :

[Maiasaura]

for the first 3 months of my pregnancy, all i wanted was red meat! i didn't eat that much of it, so that was a surprise. prime ribs, 10oz prime ribs, and big burgers with fries. i worked at this restaurant that their prime rib was to die for, and the burgers and fries, too. didn't eat that much of them when i worked there, but boy when i was pregnant...

OOOH! eilonwy! must find superhero smiley guy! he's SOOO cute!



there he is! he's awesome!

i never even looked. is there a single mama one? or mama and one boy? or <gulp> an older kid nursing one? he's so nearly weaned...just when i think he's done forever, he'll ask again.

[aweynsayl]

lol, cari! that would be hilarious. heehee.

once i figured out that if i ate a lime popsicle first, then smothered my food with mustard, i could actually eat without gagging, i was set.... but other than that, i didnt have cravings, just aversions. many many many aversions. after he was born, though.... i dont think i'd ever eaten roast beef in my whole life.... it was the only thing i wanted for the first month. oh, and chocolate cake. i never liked chocolate cake before. basically, the kid changed just about everything about me, lol.

smilies....
let's see..... ::

we need a hobbit one!

[wombatclay]

Week Five Chapter Five

A Conspiracy Unmasked


So a day late, but we've reached a bi of a turning point. Opinions and ideas get aired out, mushrooms get eaten, songs are sung, and baths are... well, wet. And leaping on high.

I find it interesting that Frodo has a dream of the Sea, and a desire to go there. I wonder if Tolkien put that in there after he finished the main narrative or if it was something that came to him earlier on? The Sea acts as an agent of change for many of the characters (even when they've never been to or seen the Sea).

But, I really like the Sea myself. So I'm a bit biased.

[Maiasaura]

Originally Posted by wombatclay

I find it interesting that Frodo has a dream of the Sea, and a desire to go there. I wonder if Tolkien put that in there after he finished the main narrative or if it was something that came to him earlier on? The Sea acts as an agent of change for many of the characters (even when they've never been to or seen the Sea).

But, I really like the Sea myself. So I'm a bit biased.

well, yes, especially cause didn't it say that most Hobbits are afraid of water? silly Hobbits.

[Aubergine68]

I was going to post about this already, but keep stopping to have nice warm baths. Do you suppose Tolkein was the kind of dad who gave his kids baths and made up songs about it?

Never even registered the sea dream! Or thought much about the ocean in relation to these books. Interesting points.

Merry is so capable, so organized, so housewifely, arranging Frodo's old belongings in his supposed new home, having three bathtubs ready, and ALSO packing for the journey. Bilbo ran out the door without even a spare hanky, if I remember rightly, and thanks to Merry. Frodo has six ponies ready with everything but the perishables already loaded up....but why couldn't he have been a Mary instead of a Meriadoc?

I am really trying to restrain my resentment that none of the fellowship are female, but I'm not always good at it. All of my readings of LOTR in the last decade have really been affected by this. (Loved what Peter Jackson did with female discontent in the film of theTwo Towers, though!)

I try to remember when I was 10 and first read Tolkien and had my world rocked. I try to remain focused on the idea that Tolkien basically created modern high fantasy and that none of those fantasy quests I love with strong female protagonists would have been possible without LOTR...but it still chafes every now and then.