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Skagit Mamas it's Autumn!

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Here's a link to the Summer Thread

How about a Calendar of Events for this season?

9/27-9/28 Burlington's Harvest Festival and Pumpkin Pitch

9/28 Anacortes Oyster Run

10/2 Free Museum Day at The Burke Museum, Seattle Art Museum, Museum of History and Industry

10/3 before 3 pm Azure order due (if placed after 3pm there is a 10% surcharge) Payment isn't taken out until 10/7

10/4-10/5 Festival of Family Farms

10/8 Meet-up at Commonground

10/8 or 10/9 Azure Order delivered to Cleveland Park

10/24-10/26 5:00-8:00pm Pumpkin Prowl at Woodland Park Zoo - $9 for Adults, $7 children 3-17, 2 and under are free

10/25 Mt. Vernon Happy Halloween Bash - HillCrest Park (If anyone has a time on this let me know)

LLL of Skagit Meetings: October 1st, November 5th, December 3rd
LLL of North Snohomish Meetings: October 20th, November 17th
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Why not just bring over the last post too?

Originally Posted by QTRANDI View Post
LuvMyBabyGirls I sure enjoyed visiting with you at Commonground during those few "knitting" sessions. I'd love to see you again October 8th! I've thought about you and your friend a lot latley

I don't get on this board all that much....although I do like to try to keep track of what is happening with the people in my area. We don't have a very "kid" friendly house (yet) otherwise at some point I'd invite you all over!

Anyone here do Tastefully Simple? If so, let me know....

We're just in the beginning stages of IVF right now! I'm getting very excited and emotional all at the same time - grand huh? We've been seeing way too many babies and been in carters way too much for me not to want a baby!

I'll have my first ultrasound on Friday and start nose spray (which I think will be my worst medicine.....I've had to do Flonase before and couldn't stand it!) I think I'd rather do shots!

We're looking at.... October 17th for the retrieval. October 22nd for the eggs to be put back in and a massage on the 21st to help relax.

I'll be taking a class at Skagit Valley Hospital Oct. 6th and 16th (Calming your Mind) and tomorrow will start a theraputic yoga class at Mandala Healing Center to help relax my mind, spirit, and body.

I was to start a part time position (working from home) answering calls for the Livescribe pen - but after much discussion decided what we needed right now is for Randi to relax, chill, and take care of herself. We ordered a guided imagry CD specifically for IVF last night and it should be here in a few days. We are really excited. I'll have the October 17th - October 31st off to relax and chill.

(I think I've wrote enough for now.........)

Anyone here have plans to attend the Life Is Good Unschooling conference next year?

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Misty -

Thanks for keeping us organized and also for bringing my post over. you're awesome.

That pumpkin prowl sounds like fun!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm going to start a yoga class on Fridays at Riveside Health Club. I'm sure it won't be quite as spiritually healing as yours sounds but the kids can go to kids club and play while I'm there. Fall just feels like yoga season to me, lol. I have taken yoga classes twice before and both times where in the fall.
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I'd love some information about the unschooling conference.
I'm jazzed about starting a homeschooling/unschooling group in the area.
I'm going to try to make it to Commongrounds on Oct 8, so maybe we can chat then. What time? And are the kiddos welcome?
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hello and happy fall.

Does anyone have any experience with Maggies Soap Nuts? I am getting a couple of samples but am wondering if they would be a good addition to my store.

I also would like any input/advice on the local co-op homeschool groups. We are trying to decide between homeschool and public school for Ian next year. I don't think I could do a solo homeschool but I love the idea of unschooling/homeschooling. I just don't think it is ideal for our family.
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There is a local group for homeschooling. I have not gone to any meetings because it sounds like only nursing infants are welcome but I can't go anywhere without my kiddos so I have not checked it out yet. Here's the link: to Skagit Valley Homeschool Association It looks more like a parent support and resource group than a cooperative though.

I know there are a ton of groups out there if your homeschooling for religious reasons. If you are a secular homeschooler there are not as many, that I have found, but here's a yahoo group for Washington Secular Homeschoolers I joined last year. Here's a great Secular Homeschooling magazine

I have a whole file of links but it's not anything you couldn't google and I don't want to presume it know what type of schooling anyone else is interested in. We are going for more of and eclectic and relaxed child-lead schooling leaning towards unschooling but I'm not sure we fit the exact definition of unschooling. We do have some strict beliefs and restrictions that are not every unschooling friendly but we try to parent and school consensually.

I recently found some neat resources for obtaining homeschool teaching supplies if anyone is interested let me know.
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Regarding the question about blood in the milk OF COURSE have your friend see her health care provider.

That being said, I had blood in my colostrum/milk. Turns out my issue was a not-very-common but not dangerous thing called "rusty pipe syndrome". It's caused when the milk ducts grow rapidly during pregnancy; they become easily irritated and will shed blood into the milk. The colostrum and milk is totally fine, it's fine to feed it to baby, no problem. It should clear up on its own a couple weeks after birth, once the milk is in and things settle down a bit.

There are certain cancers that have blood from the nipples as a warning sign. Most health care providers will think immediately of that when you talk about blood coming from the nipples, so make sure your friend doesn't get all freaked if her health care provider goes down that road. Rusty pipe is so uncommon! Many health care providers don't even know it exists!

I happened to have heard of rusty pipe just before Sev was born so when blood started coming out of my nipples and the nurses were getting their knickers in a twist, I was all, "Ah ha!" and didn't get worried. I had to go get a bunch of check ups and have doctors poke and prod at me, but I knew it wasn't a problem so I wasn't worried.

My guess is that your friend likely has something like that going on, nothing serious. Tell her to email me if she wants to talk!
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Unschooling/Mothering Get Together

I had a few comments to some posts:

We are going for more of and eclectic and relaxed child-lead schooling leaning towards unschooling but I'm not sure we fit the exact definition of unschooling. We do have some strict beliefs and restrictions that are not every unschooling friendly but we try to parent and school consensually.
Misty, that sounds like child led parenting to me! Sometimes for things to run smoothly there has to be things put in place for YOU. There are the radicals, the in betweens, and the beginners all unschooling along the way....!!

Cheryl -

I just don't think it is ideal for our family.
Does being on a school schedule, only able to take vacations at certain times (now a days kids can only miss a certain amount of days of school), having your kids gone from you so many hours of the day (I actually heard the amount the other day and gasped!)

I really think that your family really needs to contemplate coming to Life Is Good this year......if for nothing more than just getting a feel for what unschooling is and the whole aspect of it all. Life Is Good Conference You can adjust unschooling to meet the needs of your children. The one thing that struck home with K (and she wasn't really on board until this conference) was that we trust our kids to learn to walk, talk, eat, read, etc....but we don't trust them to learn what they need to and/or want to?? I think you'd be awesome at unschooling and probably do it already without knowing!! (and the deschooling once putting them in school can take months!)

RE: Homeschooling Groups. I'm with Misty in that there are quite a few religious homeschooling groups in the area but not any real "generalized" groups.

Mama's Group October 8th - TOTALLY welcome to bring kids. It isn't a real kid friendly place to meet..... and maybe I'll have to work on getting a different meeting area.....) but you're totally welcome to bring children!
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Well, it looks like it might be a nice day tomorrow. Do you want to meet at Edgewater park? I have a plum glean early in the morning in Anacortes and then will probably go to the co-op to get a bite to eat so Edgewater is right on my path. Anyone else want to try to play outside tomorrow?
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We would love to play outside tomorrow. I will have an extra 2 year old again! Edgewater park is the one in downtown mt. vernon right?

I haven't looked into unschooling much. I do have a degree in ECE and at UNR where I studied we did the Reggio Emilia approach. Very child led, teachers are more moderators and guiders. Just a very beautiful environment. It sounds possibly that this is similar? I plan on using this technique mostly with my kids. However, I am struggling because Ava (2.5 yo) is in love with schedules and routine. She thrives on them. When I put them in place for her she is so happy and content knowing what is coming next. So I am having to add more structure to our days already than planned. But that is the beauty of homeschooling! You just adjust it to what kinds of children you have. (BTW: She totally gets it from me so I understand why it is important for her)

Misty~I am excited to talk to you at playgroup today. We need to talk about how we are going to work this whole gleaners thing so that I can help you. I figure I will just have to make up my hours this quarter. You can do that right? I tried to get Jesse on a pickup but they didn't need him this weekend. I figure you will have enough work for me, if I can ever get my computer and schedule figured out!
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Edgewater, I'll be there with Sev.

I'm spending the morning roasting tomato/zucchini/onion sauce to freeze. We're slowly getting more ripe tomatoes! If this good weather holds we might get a respectable harvest from our 20 plants!
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Skagit ladies, I had a great time today. So nice to meet some more people! Sev really thrives when he has other kids to play with. Sometimes the Monday play group is his only chance to play with other kids (and my only chance to interact with adult moms too...)

When I came home I finished a project I've been working on the last few days - painting Sev's horrible (ugly)(awful) dresser! I painted the whole thing with chalkboard paint and put new drawer pulls on and now it's like a brand new dresser! So much fun for a kid's room!

I've been looking at the discussion of unschooling/homeschooling and I am interested in knowing how many of you are planning on homeschooling/unschooling your kids? I've done a fair amount of research and I wonder how you homeschoolers/unschoolers came to your decisions?

One thing I worry about long-term homeschooling/unschooling is being a diligent enough guide to make sure Sev is a disciplined scholar - higher level education is very important to me, and while I'm not exactly going to consider my success as a parent based on whether or not Sev does well in college, I do want to give him the best foundation from which to pursue higher education.

I know Mount Vernon has a very good educational system, but there are also problems. I'm torn!
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One thing I worry about long-term homeschooling/unschooling is being a diligent enough guide to make sure Sev is a disciplined scholar - higher level education is very important to me, and while I'm not exactly going to consider my success as a parent based on whether or not Sev does well in college, I do want to give him the best foundation from which to pursue higher education.
I have similar questions. I also worry about balancing home/homeschool/work. I don't know if homeschooling would make life more hectic or easier for us. I am good at planning around things I need to do but if I don't have a set schedule I am a lousy planner. I am leaning towards homeschooling at least for kindergarten and maybe just take it one year at a time.

Hope you all had a great time today! It was gorgeous weather for a play date in the park. Ian started swim lessons today and I was in the office for a while so we had to miss it.

Gotta to the little one is getting upset and needs a pant change.
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Here is what I am thinking....
I cannot say for certain that Ava will not attend school of some sort some day (public or private) but I really want to homeschool. I think the most important thing about where your child learns is that they develop a love of learning. Some schools and programs do a better job at this than others. Even homeschool can be a chore and an awful thing for a child. But at a young school age the most important thing is that they enjoy learning and develop a drive to learn more and more. Whether it is through completely child led learning or completely structured days, I think a child will do best when they are stimulated and excited about what they are doing. I realize this is kind of an abstract thing to put into practice. So we all develop our own ways of meeting our childrens needs and showing them how satisfying it is to learn things. We do this even with babies. I cheer Jack on when he learns something new. The excitement leads him to try more new things. Small children are not usually intimidated to learn something new because they are eager to soak up the world around them. My goal is to continue this "bravery". I would love my children to be excited to learn about something new or to study something they see and figure it out. The joy in a childs face when they are learning is awesome! As far as being studious, I too hope my children will attend college someday, or some form of higher education. (It is not a requirement for my thinking they or I are a success.) Like I said before I have not studied unschooling much, but even in Reggio which is child led, the foundations for this are being layed. The idea of studying something of interest in depth is basically what we do in college once we have chosen a major. I do not have older children so I am in no position to say what I will do or how I will do it when my children are older. But I imagine it is like all other phases of parenting. There comes a time when the transition into deeper studying and more responsibilities in their learning will be welcomed. Ideally an older student would still be choosing the subjects they would like to most dive into but they might have more personal responsibility in how they study it, and be more accountable for their learning. It seems like it might be a natural progression. Just as in every other area of their lives they must learn to be responsible for their own actions and choices someday.

However....this is just my little opinion and idea....I have never done it or studied it and it has been a really long time since I have done any studying on school and homeschool. But I wanted to add what I was thinking today. (Maybe it will be different tomorrow!)
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I think homeschool/unschooling is wonderful, and sometimes I wonder if I was to start over with parenting I wouldn't do this from the beginning, starting now doesn't seem best for my kids. we have our children in a public mt.vernon school and they love it. Of course we have our days....as we would no matter what we chose, but we try to be very involved and love our little nitch we have found at Lincoln Elem. Our school logs the most parent volunteer hours yet have the smallest student body of any of the elem. schools, we have a school garden, lots of crunchy pilot programs, great art and drama programs/teachers. This year my 3rd graders get to do a MONA art museum program and parents who volunteer get a pass to go whenever they want. Our pediatrician, acupuncutrist, judge, spinach picker, farmers market director all send their kids there, it's eclectic! But I have always felt like we still "homeschool" no matter what ~ HOME really is where we learn so much. I love the saying "Home is where our story begins"....Ive gotta put that on my wall somewhere!
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I always fear offending when I speak of homeschooling. I have done it on accident with out realizing how on more than one occasion. I'm just asking please, if it comes out offensive, know that it's not what's in my heart, everyone should have the right to do what works best for their family.

Despite my best efforts I can't type out the reasons we homeschool. I either ramble enough to make a new blog post or come off as too heated/paranoid and I KNOW that would offend someone and I don't want to get banned or censored. I don't think you don't have to declare either way, home schooling or public schooling until your child is 7 so there is time for you to think about it more.

I had read that ivy league colleges are seeking out homeschoolers and excepting them easier than public schooled children. Homeschooled kids usually have a love of learning that many feel the current school systems seem to lack. I just love giving links, lol. Here's one from Business week. I liked the comments section best! I know that doesn't really answer your question about keeping them motivated though.

I trust that my kids will want to learn. Robin already asks some amazing questions and wants to know some pretty detailed things about many subjects. As long as I am attentive to what he's currently interested in and give him the tools he needs to ask more questions the learning should just flow. I don't think it will stop as long as we keep it fresh and there is so much to learn isn't there!

Can I give you an example of how we are already homeschooling without structured schooling. One night Robin woke up as I was coming to bed. He wanted me to read to him but I knew a children's book would keep him awake so I started reading him a book I just bought, Our Babies, Ourselves. (I'm still working on it) I was still near the beginning and it was speaking of anatomy and how the birth canal in monkeys is shaped one way but the fossil of Lucy has the pelvis of an upright walking being. He asked me some questions about it, most interested in what a fossil was and who Lucy was. The next week a postcard came int he mail about the opening of Lucy's Legacy at the Pacific Science Center. I was talking to Doug about it and Robin chimed in that he wanted to see Lucy's picture too. This started a whole platform for learning I couldn't have structured if I tried.

He wants to know all about fossiles, and this lead to lots of talk about dinosaurs, archeology and bones. He wanted to know where Africa was, this lead to looking at maps and globes and introducing the idea that we live on a planet with more places than we can see not just a town, which brought up the sun and moon again and how the stars work. He's gaining so much information right now but not really wanting to focus on any specifically because he is trying to process so many concepts still. I don't know what to expect from Lucy's Legacy but really hope he isn't disappointed, he's awfully excited. It opens this Thursday and we are going to see it next week.
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I almost forgot. Is anyone looking to buy a new mattress soon. I need to buy 4 and have an opportunity on a fabulous discount of some natural, chemical free mattresses but shipping is free on 6 so if I can find just two more people locally wanting a chemical free mattress of any size including crib, please contact me.
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HI everyone
I have spent the last day in the hospital with my grandpa. He had a massive heart attack and was on life support for a while. They were able to remove the life support but not able to put a stint in. He has two completely blocked arteries and one 60% blocked. His heart is "extremely damaged" on the complete left side. If he can get well enough the only options will be high risk bipass surgery in Everett or do nothing. My Grandma is a mess and really cannot function without him(that is not an understatement). So if you could just keep us in your thoughts I would appreciate it. The doctors should be in today to tell us more about his options since he is feeling better. He still doesn't know anything besides the fact that he had a heart attack. The family is staying close in case any decisions must be made. Jesse took yesterday off to help, but had to return to work today. So I will be in the ICU with both of my kids for the majority of today by myself. If anyone will be in Mt. Vernon today call my cell and maybe we can play for a while to get us out of the hospital.

I always fear offending when I speak of homeschooling. I have done it on accident with out realizing how on more than one occasion. I'm just asking please, if it comes out offensive, know that it's not what's in my heart, everyone should have the right to do what works best for their family.
If I did this with my long rambling post I am sorry. I was kind of just thinking out loud. And I am completely on board with everyone doing what is best for them and their children and family. And I am still leaving public and private school as an option for my children. Homeschooling just may not be for us someday. Even though it is what I would like to do now.

Your example Misty is awesome! That is exactly what I was trying to say about child led approaches. They are beautiful! So much more learning can be done when children can learn about what is interesting them now and their minds go farther into it than we would have known to go. I hope that Robin enjoys Lucy.
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Im not offended easily, don't know if your apologies are in reference to my post about our public schooling but if so just know that I was not defending anything, just being open about what we are doing with our ever growing children!

Rachel: Im so sorry about your grandpa and the family stress that these things cause. My father had heart problems, 2 4-way bipasses in his life one when he was 45 and then nothing flared up for 20 years, when he was 65 he was in middle of a heart attack but still drove himself to the hospital, the twins were babies, that was tough. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
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