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post #101 of 106
I have not had birth trauma like some of the previous posters, so I am coming at this from a relatively normal state of giving birth.

My first labour/delivery I begged my midwife for an epidural during transition and she helped me through it with other methods. We had agreed upon this before labour... I had a very fast transition and pushing phase - ended up with a fourth degree tear, pushing in a supported squat position.

Then I really wished I'd had that epidural. Never, EVER have I felt anything like that.

Due to spinal complications from a surgery fifteen years ago, and a laminectomy, I was counseled against having another vaginal birth. I visited two midwife practices, and we consulted with two OBs. Everyone was on the same page.

I ended up with a c-section this past December. I'm not sure which was worse - the fourth degree tear, or the section. I do know I recovered a LOT more quickly from the section. The tear took years to heal, and I still have some issues.

My poor girly parts!

To finish, I have ZERO judgement for women choosing epidurals. Who am I to decide who's pain is what? First thing we were taught about pain in nursing, is that it's subjective. If someone says their pain is a ten - it's a ten. End of discussion.

Do I wish that women were given more support and other ways of managing, coping with pain? That there was more frank discussion about labour pain? You bet, but we're just not there yet.
post #102 of 106
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I have not had birth trauma like some of the previous posters, so I am coming at this from a relatively normal state of giving birth.

My first labour/delivery I begged my midwife for an epidural during transition and she helped me through it with other methods. We had agreed upon this before labour... I had a very fast transition and pushing phase - ended up with a fourth degree tear, pushing in a supported squat position.

Then I really wished I'd had that epidural. Never, EVER have I felt anything like that.

Due to spinal complications from a surgery fifteen years ago, and a laminectomy, I was counseled against having another vaginal birth. I visited two midwife practices, and we consulted with two OBs. Everyone was on the same page.

I ended up with a c-section this past December. I'm not sure which was worse - the fourth degree tear, or the section. I do know I recovered a LOT more quickly from the section. The tear took years to heal, and I still have some issues.

My poor girly parts!

To finish, I have ZERO judgement for women choosing epidurals. Who am I to decide who's pain is what? First thing we were taught about pain in nursing, is that it's subjective. If someone says their pain is a ten - it's a ten. End of discussion.

Do I wish that women were given more support and other ways of managing, coping with pain? That there was more frank discussion about labour pain? You bet, but we're just not there yet.
As a fellow RN thank you for posting this! I am sorry to hear about your past, how awful and traumatic. I agree 100 percent with you!
post #103 of 106
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Originally Posted by nursemummy View Post
To finish, I have ZERO judgement for women choosing epidurals. Who am I to decide who's pain is what? First thing we were taught about pain in nursing, is that it's subjective. If someone says their pain is a ten - it's a ten. End of discussion.
Exactly. I have no right to judge the pain tolerance of another woman nor make decisions as to whether she needs pain relief.
post #104 of 106
Someone mentioned the epidural rate in other industrialized countries. Well, trust me on this one, the USA is not the highest. In France, where most hospital births are attended by midwives, the rate is around 98%. The c-section rate, however, is much lower.

Anyway, personally, I don't consider the epidural to be the benchmark of a "natural birth". There are plenty of women out there who do not have an epidural who end up giving birth on their back, feet in stirrups, OB breaking water, OB doing all the work getting baby out, episiotomy, etc. I would not consider such a birth to be "natural", notwithstanding absence of pain relief.

On the other hand, I know women who had a light epidural, enough to alleviate the pain without being rendered temporarily paralyzed. With the help of the nurse or midwife, they were able to move around during labour, squat, get on all fours, feel the baby, feel their body do all the pushing, basically have a normal birth. That to me is a natural birth, even with the pain relief.
post #105 of 106
I'm planning on a C-section this time so an epidurel. I had my first two w/out an epidurel and with the last birth, I had one since the induciton HURT worse than anything I ever felt in my life!
post #106 of 106
Natural.....same as all my other births. I cannot have an epidural even if I wanted one due to a spinal fusion that I had years ago.
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