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post #21 of 37
10/10/08 at 10:32am
One problem I have with that article, though, is that he says vaccines contain formaldehyde, which isn't true. As a doctor, he should understand the difference. I am going to send him an email and ask him to clarify.

I think it is a very interesting line of thought, though. Especially where asthmatic children are concerned - highest risk for complications from flu, highest intensity of pressure from docs to get shots, but also a possible relationship between the Th2 immune response to the shot, and the Th2 immune response that IS asthma.
post #22 of 37
10/10/08 at 10:45am
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From my research some vaccines do contain formaldehyde including some of the flu shots but it is my understanding it isnt exactly the same kind as used in imbalming.
post #23 of 37
10/10/08 at 9:45pm
I mistyped, sorry about that. It is the antifreeze reference that is incorrect. The ethylene glycol in vaccines is not the same as the stuff you put in the radiator. That's all - overall I think he has done some interesting work on vaccines.
post #24 of 37
10/10/08 at 11:23pm
Have you seen this chart?

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

According to it, Afluria and Fluzone have versions of the flu shot that are entirely thimerisol-free. Afluria's is a single-dose version, and Fluzone's is just listed in contrast with its 5 ml vial, so maybe it's a single-dose as well. (The chart does distinguish between trace elements of thimerisol used in preparation — which it marks with asterisks — vs. none at all, which it marks with a 0.)
post #25 of 37
10/11/08 at 5:33am
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Originally Posted by junomama View Post
Have you seen this chart?

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

According to it, Afluria and Fluzone have versions of the flu shot that are entirely thimerisol-free. Afluria's is a single-dose version, and Fluzone's is just listed in contrast with its 5 ml vial, so maybe it's a single-dose as well. (The chart does distinguish between trace elements of thimerisol used in preparation — which it marks with asterisks — vs. none at all, which it marks with a 0.)
Yes in post #8 I put that information up about the single dose of those 2 being thimerisol free not being used in manufacture or as a preservative.

For me to say it is thimerisol free it cannot have been used at all in the process of making it. If it was used in the making then it cannot be free.
post #26 of 37
10/11/08 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by MCatLvrMom2A&X View Post
Yes in post #8 I put that information up about the single dose of those 2 being thimerisol free not being used in manufacture or as a preservative.

For me to say it is thimerisol free it cannot have been used at all in the process of making it. If it was used in the making then it cannot be free.
Oh - I must have missed that post - thanks for pointing it out.

I'm not sure whether your second paragraph disputes the "*" versus "0" notations on that chart, but I am pretty sure (based on reading the notes at the bottom) that the distinction does take into account the process of making the vaccine.
post #27 of 37
10/11/08 at 6:56pm
It doesn't matter if the vaccine doesn't work anyway.
post #28 of 37
10/12/08 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by junomama View Post
Oh - I must have missed that post - thanks for pointing it out.

I'm not sure whether your second paragraph disputes the "*" versus "0" notations on that chart, but I am pretty sure (based on reading the notes at the bottom) that the distinction does take into account the process of making the vaccine.
No I wasnt disputing it. I didnt even look at the link actually I was just clarifying my pp.

I honestly dont think the flu shots work myself no matter what is in them but I wanted others to see exactly what they where injecting into themselves and their lo's and hoping they would rethink it.
post #29 of 37
10/12/08 at 4:04pm
Hmm. Alrighty ...
post #30 of 37
10/12/08 at 4:27pm
You could allways make your own http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWfCnjnShnM
post #31 of 37
10/18/08 at 1:40am
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for those that might be interested.
post #32 of 37
10/18/08 at 2:49am
Besides mercury, there are a lot of other things in the flu vaccine to be concerned about.

That is why we say NO THANK YOU. The body will only have to work hard to get it out again and get back to normal living. That robs the body unnecessarily of energy.

Vaccines do not promote health.
Since that is a fact, they can only do the opposite.
post #33 of 37
10/18/08 at 2:51am
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Originally Posted by Gitti View Post
Besides mercury, there are a lot of other things in the flu vaccine to be concerned about.

That is why we say NO THANK YOU. The body will only have to work hard to get it out again and get back to normal living. That robs the body unnecessarily of energy.

Vaccines do not promote health.
Since that is a fact, they can only do the opposite.
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post #34 of 37
10/19/08 at 2:43pm
Selenium is a good thing to take to prevent the flu.
post #35 of 37
10/20/08 at 11:49am
Thanks for the Vitamin D links. We'll be taking our multivitamins this year, plus trying to get as much sunshine as we can.

Meanwhile, I've hit a brick wall in the search for a mercury-free flu shot for my son. I called around and found that Walgreens would order it for him, but they won't administer shots to persons under 18 (nor would they let us buy the shot and take it out to be administered by someone else, because it's temperature-sensitive); on the other hand, my doctor's office/clinic pharmacy don't have mercury-free or even low-thimerosal shots available to children 4 years or older, and wouldn't administer a shot brought from somewhere else.

Several drugstores have the nasal spray available so kids WITHOUT asthma can get immunized without shots or mercury. But that's not an option for us!

Grr. So we're stuck here-- living in a major metro area, if the flu hits anywhere near Boston we _will_ get it, scrub our hands as we may. DS goes to a preschool with 40 children in it and takes music/sport classes with 30 kids more, there's a good chance that at least one child a week will go to one of the museums or zoos etc. that are attended by thousands of children; we take public transportation... on a daily basis we're exposed to the germs of tens of thousands of people. When something goes around, we catch it!

After our experience with the flu last year I really want this shot for our family (already had mine, am pregnant so I got the thimerosal free version, and no they won't give this to DS) but don't want the unnecessary mercury injection. Dilemma...
post #36 of 37
10/23/08 at 10:44am
http://www.novaccine.com/specific-vaccines/ If you go here and click under Influenza vaxes you'll find out all the U.S. licensed vaxes and their age, dosing, ingredients, etc.

Then shop around for a hospital or doc who CAN order exactly what you want.

There's got to be someone who can special order you a vaccine if you really want it.
post #37 of 37
10/27/08 at 2:46pm
http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/con...ull/162/10/943
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