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post #81 of 86
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Originally Posted by MSUmama View Post
Ok, did you read any of my posts? MANY people have taken him home, including STUDENTS who had to LEAVE their gym class to do so! Seriously, did you just get some sense of what the thead was about and go with your own ideas?

I don't know where I wrote that the whole community is talking about it. If I said that, I gave the wrong idea. This is NOT a gossipish area. There is concern, yes. Mostly from the older kids.

I already tried the "nosy neighbors could call" with her. Zero concern, and this was in a conversation we had while she was once again looking for him.

AGAIN with the shoes, I NEVER said no shoes was a reason to freak out, I said it was part of the ENTIRE picture!!!

As far as this being a tight community, yes it is. I think that's part of the reason a lot of neighbors are just looking out for the boy and overlooking that there may be a bigger issue here.

We live between a school and a church there are NO registered sex offenders in the subdivision, but thanks for the suggestion.

The past few days have been great, he's been clean, had on a shoes and coat, since it's cold here that IS important. Then tonight, he showed up around 7:30, DS was in the tub and I was nursing so my dd told him he could play tomorrow and to go home.

His 5 yo sister and 11 and 14 yo brothers were at the school as his sister is participating in junior cheer camp this week in the evenings. About 40 minutes after he left, his 14 yo brother came over in a panic looking for him. He said he thought his mom's boyfriend was at their house so when the little guy came over to the school he sent him home. It was pitch black at this time of night, and had been for about 20 minutes.

I grabbed my two little ones out of the tub, threw them in jammies without even putting on dipes and put them in the car to go looking. My 13 yo took a few neighbor kids and they set out to check the parks on foot. He was dressed all in black, I panicked and drove around with my brights on terrified I'd find him on the side of the road, he's hood high and it's dark, to me that's a recipe for disaster. I can't ever recall feeling that kind of pure panic.

After checking the neighborhood, I drove over to the high school parking lot. My oldest dd is a cheerleader and teaching at the junior camp. The coach and a few others were out in the parking lot. They said my dd had found a little boy in the parking lot and they were already walking home. My kids walk through the grassy area behind our house so I didn't see her from the road.

Supposedly mom's bf was supposed to be watching him, but he wasn't at the house. When I first started looking I stopped one of the groups of kids out looking for him where his mom was, they said work. His sister was in that group and asked me to "help her find her family", telling me her brother and her mom's boyfriend were missing. A 5 year old shouldn't have to say things like that!

When I went looking for my 13 yo to tell her we'd found him, I stopped in the street where his brothers and he and his sister and several neighbor kids were walking and asked the 14 yo to have his mom call me tomorrow. He looked upset but said he would.

I am just going to have a very frank conversation with her about my concern. I have already offered some resources but I am going to try again. Michigan just changed how they calculate foodstamps, including more child care payments than they used to. That may help her off set the cost of child care. I really wish she'd put him in head start and I am going to talk to her about that again. I am going to take her the applications and offer to take them in for her if she needs me to, even though I'm not really supposed to do that.

If this ever happens again, I will not only call the police, but also CPS, and I will personally make sure there is a complete investigation. I can't even explain the look on his 14 yo brother's face tonight. No kid should have that much responsibility for his siblings.

I do get it. I have four kids. My husband and I work opposite each other to help ease the burden on our older kids because we won't do traditional daycare and can't afford all day home care. ALL of my breastfeeding clients are low income, struggling moms and families. I really do get how hard it is. I also get that this child is not being taken care of the way he needs to be and I really don't give a damn what his mom's excuse it. There isn't a sufficent excuse for allowing your child to be put in harms way. Repeatedly wandering around alone is being put in harms way for a three or four year old.

Some of the posters here may think I am being judgemental and gossiping, and that's just fine. I almost threw up when I couldn't find him tonight. I dropped an f bomb in front of my daughter's cheerleading coach without even realizing it and I went home and cried when we found him. Until you've been in a situation like this, you have no idea.

There is no room for polite when a child's safety is at risk. Thank you, all of you who clearly didn't read the entire thread and jumped on some bizarre bandwagon, enough to get under my skin. You just reminded me of that.
When I read that, my heart stopped. Even after I read you guys found him, I was still shaken up. I'm glad you found him and he was safe.

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Originally Posted by LynnS6 View Post
Wow! I'm impressed by your compassion, your concern and your working toward a resolution that is good for the kids and tries to keep them where they are. I hope your talk with the parents goes well! (Definitely bring your dh - scary looking boyfriends could be nice or could be scary!)
I would definately take your DH with you. BFs/DHs scare me anyway...

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Originally Posted by MSUmama View Post
Wow has it been a bad week all the way around...

I gave the mom all the information I had an encouraged her to call Head Start. I don't think she did, one of the teachers is job shadowing me and I kind of hinted about it, she didn't know of any newly interested parents...

My husband takes care of our kids from noon on and he said the little guy had been by a few times, still without shoes and now it is VERY cold.

I was still perplexed about what to do, and I've been busy putting out my own fires so I never did call CPS to report her.

Tonight the 11 year old came by trick or treating. My oldest dd asked where the two little one were, as the oldest is on a hunting trip and we thought we'd see them with the 11 year old. The look on his face was horrible, he went on to tell us that their dad found out that mom's boyfriend smokes pot (IMO not the worst possible offense, but I've never done that so I can't be sure) and is a convicted something. If he's a sex offender, he's violating because he can't live in this neighborhood. I'm guessing it's felon. The dad called CPS and no less than 5 (which is probably ALL of our town's) sqad cars showed up earlier this week and removed them to their dad's custody.

I hate that this has happened. I'm glad they are in a better situation, if they are, I don't really know that. I just feel so bad for the two older boys and the little ones. I can't believe CPS rolls in with guns blazing like that, they must have been so scared. I'm just sick about it. That should not be standard operating procedure.

Hopefully they are going to be taken better care of and hopefully the two older boys will get to spend time with them. It would be wonderful if the two dads of the four kids could get together and work it out so they could see each other daily. Wouldn't life be great if it worked like that?????
That's so sad that the children had to go through that that way. I, too, hope they are in a better situation. You have been *so* strong and compassionate. I can only imagine how you feel having personally gone through this, when I was so upset by it and I'm just reading this.

I hope things go better for *all* the children involved. It sounds like they really need a turn.

I also hope your DD's health is improving. I will be praying for all of you.
post #82 of 86
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Originally Posted by Authentic_Mother View Post
This is not true in everycase. It does happen - yes. I wont deny that - but we were foster parents and we have never done anything like that. Neither has the other 40 foster parents in our group. I know 3 people who went through foster care and thought it was the best thing because they finally had parents to DOTE over them. Making sure they had winter coats that went down to their wrists instead of 3/4 sleeves. Making sure they had books to read etc.
While bad stuff DOES occasionally happen in fostercare (which is absolutly horrible and disgusting and not nearly enough of them get prosecuted), its not the rule.
Amen. My MIL and FIL were foster parents for years. My SIL/BIL were foster parents until she got sick recently.

While I have issues with my inlaws, I will say that they truly cared for the children entrusted to them. They were very good foster parents. In fact, MIL still hears from a girl they fostered in the 80's, who is grown and has kids of her own.
post #83 of 86
OP, I think you are a really awesome neighbor.

I really think you did everything you could to gently give this mom a clue.

I'm sorry it ended the way it did, but I hope that little boy has better supervision and a better life with his dad.

s to you.
post #84 of 86

you are an example to us all

Please read this through as i added on at the end AFTER I read the few posts preceeding this.first I'd like to say that this boy is very fortunate to have you. he clearly feels safe at your house and therefore keeps coming back. i'd get a little more info before acting. There are always numerous sides to a story. At 5 i used to wander blocks away with another 5 yr old girl. we'd go visit certain neighbors and get cookies etc.We'd go outside to play and just wander. But that was 1966 and alot has changed. i assure you I always had shoes and were clean. The sexual comment is alarming and the visits are frequent. This makes me think home is not the greatest place and whomever is 'supposed' to be watching him is not. Listen to your gut. It sounds like this mama needs some help. if it is a substance issue she may be really hurting. If it were me and I were concerned, i'd try to talk to the mom more. I think I'd express my concern in a kind manner and see if I could help her to seek help. for some people it is very very hard to ask for help! i don't think you are being judgemental and I can also understand not wanting to just go and try to control or take over. maybe there are some other options in your community to actually help this little boy. It's nice to hear that there are kind people out there! Best, Hali OMG I am guilty of not reading all the posts. i just read the ones preceeding mine. I was just sick . Again i must say you are a pretty amazing woman. Caring and compassionate. sounds like your life is pretty full and yet you stepped up for that little boy. the example you are setting-no the example you are LIVING is what every mother wants to teach their children.
post #85 of 86
Oh, what a sad story. If you find out anything about how he is doing, will you let us know?
post #86 of 86
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First, thank you all for the kind comments. I am not superwoman by any means and do not deserve the praise you are all offering, but I appreciate it. I am sure 99% of the moms on MDC would have done/felt/said the same as I have if ever in this situation. Actually there are several MDC mamas who know me IRL from local breastfeeding/parenting groups and think I am a raging <insert UA violation of your choice> and I suspect I am in the midst of fending off a coup attempt at the moment, lol. So thanks, it's nice to know not EVERYONE thinks I am the constantly negative, horribly mean person I've been accused of being, lol!

My own kiddos are really suffering, as are a lot of the neighborhood kids. There were several, actually many, Halloween parties this weekend and neither of my teen dds have been home since we finished trick or treating Friday night. There were scavenger hunts last night and all the kids were out but you can really tell there's a black cloud of sorts over all of the kids, especially the older ones.

Since my girls got home a few hours ago they've been texting a ton and finally I asked them to stop, they know that drives me crazy. Apparently all the kids are texting each other about their feelings and opinions about K and E being removed. One of my girl's best guy friends, who I think has a better head on his shoulders than most men I know, said he thinks the kids are worse off with dad but said he'd talk to my dd about it more tomorrow. I hope he's wrong. He also said he could smell pot when they went to their house on the hunt last night. Again, smoking pot, eh not a HUGE deal to me, I know lots of people who do my sister for one, and function just great but if she's going to try to get them back, one would think she wouldn't do it or allow it in the house for at least a little while! The 11 yo is still there too!

Rumor has it they are staying in the school district and I am keeping my fingers crossed for that. The 5 yo little girl (E) is in Kindergarten all day and often goes outside to play with my ds' pre K class, so I'll know if she's not there. She's also often in the window waving when I drop ds off at school. I am so hoping to see her tomorrow.

The kids are also starting to think there are 3, not 2 dads involved as it has come out since this happened that the 14 yo's dad also tried for custody a few months ago. The 14 yo wanted to stay in school here, he is new but well established and he's very well liked. Apparently he convinced the judge to let him stay. All of the kids are freaking out wondering if that will be revisited now that this has happened. I'm fairly sure it's enough for a show of cause hearing and I wonder how long the judge will listen to the 14 yo...
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