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post #1 of 36
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I have never ever had any incidents with NIP, ever. I am nursing my 4th baby so there has been over seven years worth of opportunity for me to get harassed, but until today nothing has ever been said.

Today I had to bring my 3 week old to the WIC office to add Ethan to the case. Those of you on WIC will know the drill - you go in, get weighed, baby gets weighed, you wait forever in a crowded waiting room, and then they issue your benefits.

So they weighed my son (3 pounds gained in 3 weeks!) and he was fussing about being naked. I held him as the nurse finished paperwork, and was talking to him. I said, "Its okay baby, you'll get some milkies in a minute" or something to that effect.

She looked up and asked if I was going to nurse him in the waiting room, and I said yes. She said, "no no no no no, we can't have you doing that," and led me down the hall to a small room. It had a desk and a hard plastic chair in it, along with stacks of boxes, and before I knew what was going on the nurse set down my diaper bag (she had helped me carry my things), and walked out of the room, shutting the door behind her. She said, "You just come on out when you're done."

I was too dumbfounded to speak, and by this time Ethan was screaming his head off, so I just nursed him. I didn't want to come out of the room because I was so embarrassed. The door to the room is in the main waiting room, and the waiting room was full of people. (not just WIC clients, but other people getting immunizations and check ups and things.)

I've never once been made to feel ashamed of breastfeeding, never once felt the need to hide, and today all of that changed. I don't know what, if anything, I should do about this. I think the nurse's intentions were good - it was as though she wanted to spare me embarrassment, not the other people. But still. It really made me feel awkward and like I stood out in the crowd. If I had just nursed him in the regular waiting room I wouldn't have felt weird or different at all. It felt like when the teacher called you up in front of class in school.
post #2 of 36
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Originally Posted by 3pink1blue View Post
She said, "no no no no no, we can't have you doing that," and led me down the hall to a small room.
This makes me think that she was not trying to just make YOU comfortable. I would find out who they get their funding from and write them an educational letter.

Also, have they assigned you a peer counselor? You could mention it to that person or to your WIC's breastfeeding coordinator.

I'm sorry that happened to you!
post #3 of 36
What a great way to discourage moms-to-be from breastfeeding! 'Cause, y'know, breastfeeding must be done away from others because it is offensive so it is soooo much less convenient than formula feeding. Well, whaddayaknow? We'll just print out these formula vouchers for you...

Grrrr. I remember when my kids were on WIC. Every. Freaking. Appointment. "Do you need formula today?" Even when I went in asking about a breast pump so I could return to work.

If that happens again, which it should not, just get up, grab your bag, and go back out to the waiting room and nurse there.
post #4 of 36
Wow. The mention of stacks of boxes caught my attention...at my office (I am at home now but just since last year) the health and safety folks did regular inspections to make sure we didn't have stcks of boxes (or boxes on shelves) because of risk of them toppling. So not only did they hide you away, they maybe didn't even put you in a safe environment? Argh. I'm so sorry you had to experience baloney like that
post #5 of 36
Could you please file a report with www.firstright.org? They can offer assistance and resources in who and how to contact. And the incident will be recorded in a database.
post #6 of 36
Please contact the breastfeeding counselor for your county with WIC. She needs to know immediately that a nurse is doing something that may discourage someone on WIC from nursing.

I had to call mine a few years ago when a WIC employee tried to tell me that nursing at 10 months had no real value since she could almost go to whole milk anyway. :
post #7 of 36
wow, just wow.

I don't know what else to say. I'm glad my WIC office is so great. All I hear at my appointments is "You're breastfeeding exclusively, right?" "You had a homebirth, right?" "You don't immunize, right?" "Okay then, here ya go!" I want to go hug my WIC lady now, lol! (Oh, and there's no crowd and no wait at our office. It's a small office run by one woman and you show up at your appointed time, go in, go through the drill, and get out.)
post #8 of 36
That sucks! I hate how WIC pretends like they want people to breastfeed, but go out of their way to make it unpleasent!

Everytime I went to one of my appointments I was the ONLY person nursing.

I would call that office, and the office above them and the one above that. (I know that the number, email, street address etc for the executive director of my state is on the website for my state's wic)
post #9 of 36
That's really awful. I work for WIC and we encourage our clients to breastfeed wherever they are all the time!
post #10 of 36
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That sucks! I hate how WIC pretends like they want people to breastfeed, but go out of their way to make it unpleasent!
I work for WIC, and I desparately want moms to breastfeed, and we let them breastfeed wherever they want. Most moms on WIC are very embarressed to NIP, and this is one of their barriers to BF period. I always tell them that most people won't even know that they're BF, but it still weirds them out. I have led moms to an empty office to BF in private. I think they are glad.

Please, don't lump us all into one category of those awful WIC people. As with anything, there are good people and bad people. We aren't all the same.

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That's really awful. I work for WIC and we encourage our clients to breastfeed wherever they are all the time!
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post #11 of 36
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Originally Posted by HeatherRD View Post
I work for WIC, and I desparately want moms to breastfeed, and we let them breastfeed wherever they want. Most moms on WIC are very embarressed to NIP, and this is one of their barriers to BF period. I always tell them that most people won't even know that they're BF, but it still weirds them out. I have led moms to an empty office to BF in private. I think they are glad.

Please, don't lump us all into one category of those awful WIC people. As with anything, there are good people and bad people. We aren't all the same.



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Same here. I'm the breastfeeding peer counselor for our county and I would DEFINITELY want to know if something like this was going on in our office. We really really DO want you to breastfeed. Sometimes it's hard when your coworkers are doing things that you don't know about to discourage moms.
post #12 of 36
I also work for WIC and this would be an OUTRAGE if this happened in our clinic!!! We have a very comfortable BFing room, as well as BFing in the waiting room. I've also been a client with WIC (and I know how awful all that weighing is... I'm still not participating in the program because I hated it so much), and no one at the office discouraged me to BF in the waiting room!

I would contact the supervisor of the clinic and let them know what happend, ask if that is policy, and then take it from there.

post #13 of 36
I would NOT have let anyone 'make' me breastfeed in a closet.

And I'm not scolding you- because I understand the pressure of the moment.

What I suggest is becoming familiar with your state's law:

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ttm...=breastfeeding

It's not quite as friendly as some states (like Texas, that allow me to nurse anywhere *I* have a legal right to be)- but it's a good start and it ought to be sufficient in most cases.

It's funny to me, because I am a little shy and do cover up while NIP, BUT I am adamant about my, and OUR rights as women to feed our children in public without being shamed.
post #14 of 36
You should definitely complain.
post #15 of 36
That sucks! I was so happy with the pro-bfing attitude our office had when I was on WIC. They had a big bulletin board with all these pictures of women nursing and little factoids. One even said "the average age for weaning is anywhere from 2-7 years."

I just moved counties and will be reapplying with the new baby, so I hope the good attitude carries over here.
post #16 of 36
The only problem I have with our WIC office are the posters it's covered in saying stuff like "Make sure to get your children immunized!"... The actual woman who works there doesn't make a big deal over it though. She always encourages women to breastfeed, and breastfed her own children, so while I'm not sure if we have a breastfeeding peer counselor since it's such a small office, she does have at least some decent basic advice.
post #17 of 36
This is such crap!

Where in Michigan are you? PM me if you want. I did some work with one of the county health departments and know some people who work for MDCH. I will gladly make some noise if you want some support. Do you remember her name? I think location, date and time would do if you don't remember.
post #18 of 36
My program is in with WIC, and I'm a CLC that works closely w/ the breastfeeding peer counselors. We would NEVER stand for that! We have a nursing room with a rocking chair, if the mom wants it. If she wants to nurse in the waiting room, she's more than welcome to.

I would write not only the head of the local WIC office, but their regional supervisor and the state supervisor. WIC is supposed to promote bfdg, and by sticking you in a closet, they are NOT making bfing the norm, like they should. Seriously, I would make sure your letter gets to the state, so they can be educated about this.

I am so sorry this happened to you!
post #19 of 36
Wow...I am so sorry this happened to you. Are there any other WIC offices that you could go to? My county has 2, and for the most part my experiences have been pleasant. I nursed my little one while speaking to the nutritionist one time. I didn't really think anything of it. When my babe is hungry, he is hungry... Another time, he was a little fussy and one of the women told me there were nursing rooms available, if it made me feel more comfortable. I hope your next experience is better.
post #20 of 36
I'm so sorry you were made to feel ashamed or singled-out for something as wonderful and nurturing as breastfeeding, which you have been doing so naturally for so long.
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