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post #1 of 17
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This is probably more of a concerned rant then anything else. I have been friends with a girl for nearly 25 years now (since before kindergarden) We are not super close as we were but we still remain friends (I was in her wedding, she was in mine, our mothers are best friends) She had a baby a year ago. I tried to educate her on the issues of vaccines, bfing, etc while she was pregnant. I gave her links, books, even a subscription to mothering magazine...well she didn't listen to anything. She chose a more mainstream approach (bf only a week, full vaccines, etc.) That's her choice and that's not my beef, just a little background. When S (her baby) was a few months old she got 3rd degree burn on her arms and hands. Her dh, my friend (N) and the baby went out to dinner and they were talking and not paying attention, S stuck her arms and hands into N's very hot dinner plate. She was in bandages for weeks if not longer. Okay, stuff happens, I can understand how it could have happened.... They are always doing dangerous stuff though. I gave them one of my jumpers that I used for my twins, well they let S STAND on it less then 1 foot from the fireplace (she just turned 1!) They walk away leaving her on the changing table to go into another room (we are talking when she was 6/7 months old.)just stuff like that.

Ok to the issue at hand. My mom, myself and my twins went to S's 1st bday party 2 weeks ago. She has a swing set that my twins were playing on with this very scary looking swing. It's those rocket type swings except it is about 5.5 feet off the ground (I am only 5'3" and I couldn't have put my kids in it)and it has been retied. You can see the old white rope and the new yellow rope has just been tied on it! I wouldn't put a dog in that thing let alone my child. My mom told my friend's mom (S's gma) that she needed to replace it, it was very dangerous and of course she agreed.

Fast forward to last week. My mom tells me on Friday that S broke her arm. I asked her how and she said she fell out of that dangerous swing! She said S's dad was swinging her, looked away and when he turned around she climbed out of it and was on her way down! I'm surprised she didn't break more! My mom was curious though b/c she got the call early on Friday and both parents work so she didn't understand how she could have fallen out of the swing Friday morning with her dad swinging her. Come to find out, she broke her arm on Tuesday : My friend's mom watches S during the day while the parents work and kept insisting they take S to the doctor b/c she wasn't using the arm and she was screaming if it moved or anyone touched it. My friend's husband kept telling the gma that "she will be fine, she's tough" : I can't imagine living with a broken arm for 3 days!!

I just hope they learn from this and will be more cautious
post #2 of 17
Wow! I don't even know what to say 3 days...poor child.
post #3 of 17
I have a friend who's child dislocated his elbow. It took them a full day to realize something was actually wrong. It is so hard to tell sometimes if a child is actually injured or just being sucky. When it happened there was about 30 adults in the house & NONE of us suspected anything - in fact we were all shocked (& felt guilty) when we found out.
post #4 of 17
lifegaurd, the same thing happened to my sister. climbed out of a crib, and broke her arm, took two days. And my mom is an RN!
post #5 of 17
My younger sister got her foot caught in a tree and fell. She complained all night and my mom took her the next day for xrays- she broke her ankle.
post #6 of 17
When I broke my OWN foot it took me a day and a half to realize I needed to see a doctor. I thought it was just bruised. This can happen.

OTOH, "she fell out of the swing" is a very common excuse parents give when a child's broken bone actually is caused by abuse. I'm also suspicious about THIRD-degree burns from a hot dinner plate; that would have to be a VERY hot plate or the baby left in it for a while.

Some types of injuries in children trigger an automatic CPS investigation. If this is one of them, then your friend and her husband will get professional advice on how to be more careful to prevent harm to their daughter. It sounds like they could use it!
post #7 of 17
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When I broke my OWN foot it took me a day and a half to realize I needed to see a doctor. I thought it was just bruised. This can happen.
I agree. I broke my foot a year ago, I saw my dr 2 days later. He examined it & said he didn't think it was broken, x-rays a week after I broke it showed it was broke. They also showed that apparently at some point I broke my Tibia(long bone in the leg). I'm fairly certain it happened when I was 17 but I cant't be certain because it was never checked.
post #8 of 17
I fractured my foot in 2 places and didn't know for about a week and half. I just thought I pulled a muscle or bruised it or something. I still wouldn't have gone in had my hubby not insisted! I just continued going to work where I stood up all day on it! ***ouchie***
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by EnviroBecca View Post
When I broke my OWN foot it took me a day and a half to realize I needed to see a doctor. I thought it was just bruised. This can happen.

OTOH, "she fell out of the swing" is a very common excuse parents give when a child's broken bone actually is caused by abuse. I'm also suspicious about THIRD-degree burns from a hot dinner plate; that would have to be a VERY hot plate or the baby left in it for a while.

Some types of injuries in children trigger an automatic CPS investigation. If this is one of them, then your friend and her husband will get professional advice on how to be more careful to prevent harm to their daughter. It sounds like they could use it!
I agree! I am a little surprised that the hospital didn't report them. My SIL had her son in the ER for a dislocated elbow and then not even two week later her daughter fell on a metal airplane toy and required 4 stitches. The doctor flat out told her that he was reporting her.
Turns out her hubby just wasnt watching the kids while she worked. He was sleeping while they ran amok. This is a 3 yr old and a 2yr old. She booted him out and now has reliable childcare.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by EnviroBecca View Post
When I broke my OWN foot it took me a day and a half to realize I needed to see a doctor. I thought it was just bruised. This can happen.

OTOH, "she fell out of the swing" is a very common excuse parents give when a child's broken bone actually is caused by abuse. I'm also suspicious about THIRD-degree burns from a hot dinner plate; that would have to be a VERY hot plate or the baby left in it for a while.

Some types of injuries in children trigger an automatic CPS investigation. If this is one of them, then your friend and her husband will get professional advice on how to be more careful to prevent harm to their daughter. It sounds like they could use it!
Yeah...

Although I have the most accident prone child on the face of the planet (3.5 years old, 6 er visits, 2 sets of xrays, 13 stitches) and I've never been reported, but with my son all the injuries were OBVIOUSLY caused exactly how I said...and only 1 of them was due to a parent (DH) not watching closely enough the others were normal DS being a daredevil.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by EnviroBecca View Post
OTOH, "she fell out of the swing" is a very common excuse parents give when a child's broken bone actually is caused by abuse.
Yes, except in this case the OP had seen a dangerous swing in their yard, so maybe not quite as suspicious as it might be. Some kids are daredevils. Some parents don't watch as closely as others. Some of us risk other parent's scorn to allow our kids to explore their world and their capabilities as fully as possible. And some, sadly, are abusive. Personally, I think way too many parents are way to careful and protective of children and send the message "the world is dangerous and you can't handle it". So lots of people accuse me of being careless when its really a careful decision about how I want to parent.

I'm not sure what the OP can do here either than watch her own children in this household in case things really are dangerous and uncared for. Clearly her friend isn't interested in her education efforts -- having ignored them from the child's infancy (and before). If you truly suspect abuse, then report that (now might be a good time since the parents could assume it was the hospital/doctors). Maybe its just time to move on and find someone whom you have more in common with as a friend.
post #12 of 17
If I knew someone who was like this, I would also be very frustrated. 3rd degree burns from a hot dinner plate at a restaurant is pretty intense - how long was the child's hand touching the plate before anyone noticed? That's just kind of weird. Maybe she needs to organize her life a little better so she can pay attention more closely to this child.

In any case, I wouldn't ever leave my child alone with her. Ever.
post #13 of 17
I am very sorry for that womans children. They are obviously in store for a crappy life.

I looked up friend in the dictionary, and that is not what you described. Why do you need her or this drama in your life? You are not making a difference to her. I would sit down with her and have a heart to heart. If she doesnt shape up, then you should move on to more positive people.
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by 2cutiekitties View Post
...I looked up friend in the dictionary, and that is not what you described.

Mind if I quote you on that one??? LOL!
Otherwise, OP, take heart. Perhaps seeing her 1 year old with a cast on her arm will make your er, um..."associate," realize that toddlers need more supervision and caretaking than she had first realized. Sometimes serious accidents cause people to change....and then again, sometimes not.

I hope for the best, all the same.

xoe
post #15 of 17
Some parents just are not as paranoid about their children getting hurt. My mom is miss super safety, and she doesn't even like it when Lilah walks quickly through her house, for fear she will fall. She has been walking perfectly for almost 6 months. She freaks out if I feed her something off of my own fork, because my hand may slip and I might stab her in the eye with with it. I love her, just geesh! Then there are dh's parents. I remember the time MIL told me how "creative" dh was, because when he was 3 or so, he would drag his big tricycle thing up the steps of his slide, and ride it going down. She would just sit there and watch him, not alarmed or anything. Oh, and one time while FIL was jumping a car, because the battery died, he walked away, leaving dh (around first grade) alone outside with the car, while the cable things were charging. DH took the clamps off the one car, and hooked them to his bike. The bike was completely melted when FIL and MIL came outside. They tell the story like, "ohh our clever little boy!" Not like, "omg he could have DIED!" They will never babysit my kids!!
post #16 of 17
Wow! That is really shocking. They sound like parents that are really inattentive to their child's needs or feelings.

My dd#2 jumped off my bed when she was 2 and broke her arm. She wasn't screaming uncontrollably, but the way she was holding her arm I just knew it was broken.

My dd#1 fell out of bed in the middle of the night when she was 2 and broke her collarbone. She went back to sleep, but in the morning I knew it was broken just by looking at it and touching it.
post #17 of 17
Wow, that is awful. Just awful.
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