I love Jenny McCarthy's interview this morning. - Page 3

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by Kathryn

While I love how determined she is, I really dislike her stance on Autism

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[Proverbs31]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

Has she edited her book and had it republished stating retracting her previous statements?

Personally I don't understand people that look to celebrities as role models for any decision in life, other than getting into the entertainment field, but according to previous posters some people do. Her words are out there in published print on bookstore shelves as far as I know with the pretty penis comment there, isn't it?

How many of us have changed our stances over the years? Should we then be expected to go back and edit our posts from a few years ago in order to restore our credibity? Being a published author, she is in the dubious position of having her words immortalized; while her foolish words will go down in history, we can also read about how she has progressed and changed as person over the years. I'm sure plenty of people would find fault if she did try and erase her words.

[pumpkinhead]

I don't wish to take anything away from Ms. McCarthy. She has done awesome things for autism awareness. That said, I do have a couple of issues.

1. It's got to be a little tough for those with or without autistic children who have worked tirelessly to raise awareness and funds for autism to watch Jenny McCarthy do for the cause in a few months what they have worked years to do. That's the reality of the world we live in, but it probably still stings a little.

2. Jenny regards Austism as an affliction to be cured. Something that must be fought and banished. There are children out there for whom there is no cure right now. Their autism did not begin for them after vaccinations or some other immune/physical affliction or trauma. They were born with it. They are not children hiding inside of an autistic prison, autism is a big part of who they are. While I understand that her primary stance relates directly to the experience she had with her son, I believe it's disresptcful to ignore the fact that there are other children out there on the spectrum who are different. Their autism has nothing whatsoever to do with vaccines. Are these children not important and worthy of awareness as well?

I think Ms. McCarthy suffers from tunnel vision. She's interested in raising awareness and funds because her son was afflicted. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, howwever, if this is something you wish to go ahead with, at the very least you shoudl attempt to educate yourself on the subject of both autism and vaccines before going full out gangbusters with it.

[bri276]

I've asked this question, but don't think anyone knew. Tom Cruise and Katie are scientologists right? I also think Will and Jada Smith are too. Does that mean they also don't vaccinate?

No, it doesn't.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by pumpkinhead

2. Jenny regards Austism as an affliction to be cured. Something that must be fought and banished. There are children out there for whom there is no cure right now. Their autism did not begin for them after vaccinations or some other immune/physical affliction or trauma. They were born with it. They are not children hiding inside of an autistic prison, autism is a big part of who they are. While I understand that her primary stance relates directly to the experience she had with her son, I believe it's disresptcful to ignore the fact that there are other children out there on the spectrum who are different. Their autism has nothing whatsoever to do with vaccines. Are these children not important and worthy of awareness as well?

I disagree with this. I have read "Louder than Words" and I just finished "Mother Warriors". Jenny says many times that her goal is to heal the kids that are sick and are exhibiting autistic behaviors as a result of that sickness. As I have lived this in a very small way, I can only applaud her for her albeit imperfect but highly important work.

I cannot really speak to kids on the spectrum which are "born with it" as you state because I certainly know that you can be born with nutritional deficiencies and environmental toxicities. Vaccines cannot not be the sole cause of autism but are possible just a major insult to an already damaged body. It certainly is a large correlation cannot be ignored. What if the "who they are" kids you speak of are suffering, can we really be sure there is not another "trigger" of their autistic behaviors? She does say in both her books that she does not like to use the word "cure" but "heal".

My DS exhibited some autistic behaviors as a result of his gut problems. We are very very lucky I did not vax and we worked hard to get the gut and nutritional issues under control, so it stopped there. I saw tremendous changes depending on what his digestion was doing at the time and could correlate specific things like head banging and toe walking with diarrhea or constipation because it was repeated many times over. I was lucky I was so clued into his food intolerances that he only had wheat and dairy a handful of times until I pulled it from his diet during the crucial formative years (due to him freaking out, whipping his head from side to side, and sleeping worse whenever he got them).

I will be grateful every day to the angel mamas here at MDC without which I would have vaccinated my son. (I love you Hilary and Tracy et al!) I know in my heart he would have been autistic because it would have been one more environmental insult his immune system could not handle. If this basic concept can be communicated to more mamas who are living the autism epidemic, I think Jenny deserves every support for the group she does speak to. She cannot be all things for all people. I totally disagree with her stance on "green vaccines" the idea is ludicrous from my non-vax point of view, but it is a tremendous start and easier for the masses to understand.

IMO the current autism epidemic should be faught and banished, I don't understand why that is a bad position to have? Something is happening so that what.. approx. 1 in 150 kids are on the spectrum now? That is very very wrong and very much something that is happening *to* our children, not about who they are. The epidemic is so dangerous I think that it is crucial it is talked about in this manner now. I accept every child for their unique abilities and perspectives. We can learn so much from people who society has branded as "different", but that is not what is happening here. When I term my DS as having autistic behaviors it wasn't because I didn't like how he was behaving ... I knew in my heart he was suffering!

[Ncheathen]

I think she is awesome.

I was falsely accused of shaking my daughter while I was in the Air Force in March of 2005. I told my wife then, when we figured out that it was reallt vaccine damage, that one day this would have to somebody popular, rich, or well off and they would let it rip in the media.

At least she has a sack to speak up.

[Deborah]

A totally depressing factor in our favor: with the increasing number of vaccines, the number of babies with easily recognizable reactions to vaccines is getting so high that almost everyone has heard of a problem. It is simple arithmetic.

Pulling a number out of the air, if 1 out of every 100,000 vax doses produces a serious reaction, and if every baby is getting 36 vaccines by 18 months of age, then 1 out of every 2,777 babies is going to be having a serious reaction. This is not rare and unusual. Personally, I think the reaction rate is much higher, with multiple vaccines at one time as a contributing factor.

[Microsoap]

Can't stand Jenny McCarthy. She mutilated (circumcised) her son knowing full well it was unnecessary, sexually damaging and a human rights violation. She did it because she wanted a "pretty" penis.

[Tracy]

Thank you, JaneS. And you really helped me with one of your posts and links. I got an awesome dentist from it!

[lovingmommyhood]

Originally Posted by Microsoap

Can't stand Jenny McCarthy. She mutilated (circumcised) her son knowing full well it was unnecessary, sexually damaging and a human rights violation. She did it because she wanted a "pretty" penis.

This isn't CAC.

I think Jenny has given so many parents a voice on this issue. THANK YOU JENNY!!

[Fyrestorm]

Originally Posted by Microsoap

Can't stand Jenny McCarthy. She mutilated (circumcised) her son knowing full well it was unnecessary, sexually damaging and a human rights violation. She did it because she wanted a "pretty" penis.

Originally Posted by lovingmommyhood

This isn't CAC.

I think Jenny has given so many parents a voice on this issue. THANK YOU JENNY!!

But it seriously makes me doubt her thinking processes.

[Tracy]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm

But it seriously makes me doubt her thinking processes.

My understanding is her exhusband was a huge influence on a lot of it. I am sorry whenever spouses take moms from their guts, I hear it often.

[amnesiac]

Please stay on topic here regarding vaccines so the thread can remain open.

[NYMOM07]

Originally Posted by chaoticzenmom

I freaking love her. I love how direct she is. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/hea...v.mccarthy.cnn


Thank you Jenny

is there a conspiracy??? the two video links mentioned in this post have been removed?? weird........