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post #701 of 944
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Originally Posted by AnnieA View Post
Good Morning ladies!

Supplement question here: Has anyone taken high doses of Zinc, up to 90 mg/day, to help with severe menstrual cramps (dysmennorhea)? I read about it recently and decided to try it. You are supposed to start it 1-4 days before AF so that's what I did. Here's the problem. I think it may have also drastically reduced AF. I had two days of spotting and now nothing. My temp is down to post AF temp so I know I'm not pregnant. I'm just wondering if my two days of spotting was my AF? I'm still taking the Zinc because I'm worried that AF is going to show up full force if I stop and then I will be in severe pain again. Help!
I am not too familiar with that but I looked up some things and saw that zinc can effect your hormone levels which could effect your AF. If I could predict the future I would be a rich woman but if I were to guess I would say that your spotting was AF and I wouldn't be too surprised if you experience more spotting in the next few days but I doubt you will get it back full force. I am glad it worked for you!! that is great news. Let us know how it goes.
post #702 of 944
Lots of creamy cf this morning upon waking (which is usually my driest time of day) and my temp was the highest it's ever been! I hope this means I O'd or am heading towards it! It's so fun to know what's going on with my body.
post #703 of 944
I can't take zinc. It makes me nauseous.
post #704 of 944
Well, light colored pants combined with posting about the fact that AF was MIA brought her out! Still no pain other than a few twinges so right now I am very happy! I am combining the high doses of Zinc with a prescription NSAID that my doctor gave me. If this is how my cramps/AF will be going foward, I will be :.

Marinewife, I was worried about taking that much Zinc too because I have read that it is rough on your stomach. I found a brand at Whole Foods that said it was supposed to be gentle on your stomach and as long as I take it with my meals, it has been fine! The brand is New Chapter Organics and it is the Zinc Food Complex supplement. It has 30mg of Zinc in each tablet as well as probiotics and some whole foods like spinach. Not only are my cramps basically non-existent but the could that my DH and DSC were passing around barely touched me! I'm going to go back and see if that company does a B-complex.
post #705 of 944
I forgot to mention that when I took extra B vitamins my cramps got a lot better. One note about the NSAIDs. They can delay O if you take them regularly.
post #706 of 944
I only take them right before and during AF but thanks for the tip about it delaying O. So far they have not been effective at helping my cramps but they seem to be working in conjuction with the Zinc. I really hope this works because it was getting to the point where my only options were narcotics, early menopause or childbirth. Needless to say that none of those are very attractive!
post #707 of 944
So for those of you ladies who have Ovusoft.... do you only pay the fee one time? Or is that yearly?
post #708 of 944
Ovusoft is a one time fee. It's a program that you load onto your pc so it's only accessible from your personal pc. You can upload your charts to the internet for others to view. I think maybe you have to pay if you want to get the next, updated version but I'm not sure about that.

I'm spotting again today mixed with what seems to be ewcf.
post #709 of 944
I just read something about this full moon being very close to earth...

Full Moon Close Up

It's making me nervous that it's going to trigger an early O. My cycles used to be in line with the moon, with AF coming at new moon, but the past year or so they've changed and don't seem to line up with any particular moon phase.

It would be the shortest cycle of my life by about 6 days if it did happen, though, so I think I'm just worrying about nothing. But I am curious about whether other women's cycles match the moon cycles. I've known women who insisted there was something wrong with anyone whose AF didn't arrive around the new moon.
post #710 of 944
My cycle pre baby was 35 days.... it's never lined up with moon phases!
post #711 of 944
I have heard about women's cycles lining up with the moon phases. I'm not sure how accurate that is. I don't think my cycles ever did that. On another note, I think maybe I got AF today without Oing last cycle. Maybe my cycle is trying to line up with the moon.
post #712 of 944
WTH guys? Lol. I guess I ovulated, because I've never had a pre-O temp this high (98.2). But yesterday it was 97.5. AND I've had CM yesterday and today. I know, there are a ton of holes in my chart. But I am so confused.

As for the moon phases, I've heard that before and it's an interesting idea. Mine have never lined up either because they were longer (32-34 days or so). At any rate I had heard it was the light that did it, so if you sleep with the shades drawn I don't see how it could make a difference. Although we sleep with our curtains closed and the moon was so bright last night it still looked like we were sleeping next to the Vegas strip.
post #713 of 944
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Originally Posted by BarefootScientist View Post
WTH guys? Lol. I guess I ovulated, because I've never had a pre-O temp this high (98.2). But yesterday it was 97.5. AND I've had CM yesterday and today. I know, there are a ton of holes in my chart. But I am so confused.
I thought you had Oed a while ago, sometime between cd16 and cd22, when you didn't temp, of course.

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Originally Posted by BarefootScientist View Post
As for the moon phases, I've heard that before and it's an interesting idea. Mine have never lined up either because they were longer (32-34 days or so). At any rate I had heard it was the light that did it, so if you sleep with the shades drawn I don't see how it could make a difference. Although we sleep with our curtains closed and the moon was so bright last night it still looked like we were sleeping next to the Vegas strip.
I hadn't thought of that but it's a good point. With the advent of artificial lighting and covering windows at night while sleeping, the moon phases wouldn't have as much effect. I have blinds and curtains over my windows. I used to have blackout curtains but we haven't gotten around to putting them up here.
post #714 of 944
So I tried something different this weekend. I slept for about 4 hrs last night before working the night shift. I temp'd when I woke up @ 9pm. It was 97.3 which is about ave for pre O. then I donated Platelets in the morning after work and went to bed for 4 hrs and tempd. This time it was 97.9. I am right around O time but I would guess that I wont O for another day or 2. My temp after sleeping during the day is usually higher than baseline so I think I should just ignore that one and chart the one from the evening in the Sun spot even though I charted a temp for Sat. already. WWYD?
post #715 of 944
AF finally arrived and I have a new BBT. Still have not found the old one
I was a little put off that I could only find one that is C and not F that I wanted.
I read in an earlier post about Zinc to reduce cramps?
Before the kids I never really had cramps, now they just about kill me every month. Is it normal for that to change?
post #716 of 944
momongeon ~ I think the thing to do is pick whichever time is going to be more consistent for you and use that temp. For example, if you are more likely to get the 4 hours of sleep before you work the night shift, then use that one. If you are more likely to get the 4 hours after working, use that one. Do you always work the night shift or does your shift change? That will, of course, make it a lot harder. The rule is to temp as close to the same time every day as possible after the longest amount of sleep that you get as long as it's at least 3 hours. Does that make sense?

I don't know if it's normal for cramping to change after having kids. Once I went off hormonal birth control I started having horrible cramps. Had never had any cramps at all before then.

I changed my chart again. I had first counted yesterday as AF but switched it to spotting as the day went on. Last night just before bed it get heavier, though, and it's heavier today so I switched it back to AF starting yesterday.
post #717 of 944
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
I thought you had Oed a while ago, sometime between cd16 and cd22, when you didn't temp, of course.
Hmm...maybe. There are some pretty low temps after that though. I think night nursing is just really screwing up my temps.

momongeon - in grad school I was doing a biphasic sleep schedule where I slept 1.5 hours in the early morning and almost 4 hours in the late afternoon (and worked the rest of the time, ugh) and I always temped at the exact same time after my longer sleep, and my chart was still almost impossible to interpret (like it is now, lol). So I don't know what to say - try to make it consistent but when you have an "odd" sleep schedule you might have to rely a little more on CF and just try to be really careful.
post #718 of 944
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Originally Posted by BarefootScientist View Post
Hmm...maybe. There are some pretty low temps after that though.
All your temps after cd22 are 97.5 or higher, which is normal for post-O temps. I can definitely see a shift after cd22.
post #719 of 944
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
All your temps after cd22 are 97.5 or higher, which is normal for post-O temps. I can definitely see a shift after cd22.
Yeah...I was thinking I o'd around cd22 but not before because the temp on that day is 97.3, which seems pretty low for a post-o temp.

But guess what? AF just showed up. So if I actually did ovulate then, it's only a 5-day LP. I think someone was saying it's normal for your LP to be shorter PP for a while as your body gets used to doing that again. Mine in the past was always 12 days. Anyway I still don't know when I ovulated, but now I get to toss this cycle aside and try again.
post #720 of 944

Oooooppss

k Well we just had our First using No POM(well I thought it was educated decision) My Tempt has been down and it was day 24 and my periods are 32 days long So I told Hubby No Prob, Then I felt Ovarian pain, later that day. My last O in Nov. was on day 21. I am kinda nervios. I know that I have always O later in the month,

So everytime that we have had a slip up we have gotten a Kid,:

My hubby is going to be so Suprised and maybe in denile.: If it happens He said when we were done (NO BABY)...I had NO Coment, I was going with my tempts, So anyone with any advice: I am in the waiting game It is day 25... But I will be really : Of course..

Anyone know about Charting could give me some advice, that would be Great,
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