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Oprah today 10/01/08

post #1 of 70
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Anyone watch???

NO KIDS LEFT IN CARS EVER!!!!!!!! NO KIDS LEFT IN CARS EVER!!!!!!!!

NO KIDS LEFT IN CARS EVER!!!!!!!!

NO KIDS LEFT IN CARS EVER!!!!!!!!

I can not tell you how upset I am for this mother. A simple break in routine & it happens. So sad. She even admitted to leaving her child in the car for a quick run-in to get her older child from pre-school.

But just this weekend, while picking up food I saw a Mother leave her 2 kids in the car while she waited in line. Oh it made me so frustrated!! I understand what I think her reasoning was, but you just do not do it. EVER!!!NEVER!!! EVER!! Cars are not toys for children to be left in.

(mods: this is about safety, not tv)
post #2 of 70
I'm from that area so we were innundated with coverage of it last August. I couldn't even watch today. It's beyond heartbreaking and even though I would never have left Anna alone in the car before, now I'LL NEVER EVER EVER leave Anna alone in the car. Just your subject line brought back that pit of the stomach feeling. Never... it's not worth it.
post #3 of 70
I can't even think about this without tearing up. How terrible and difficult it must be for that mom. As someone who is constantly sleep deprived, I can so understand how it could happen to someone.
post #4 of 70
I wish I could have seen the show now since I see it posted now on 2 of my mothering forums, would likely be on my 3rd if I checked. From what I've read a young child passed away in a car from spending the day in sweltering heat, the mother was horribly sleep deprived? She was forgotten to be dropped off at daycare?

I can only think of how incredibly blessed I was to have my DH at home for the first year of my twins' lives as I was very sleep deprived and I didn't drive either. I can't imagine what to say but how aweful for a child to lose their life in that way.
post #5 of 70
I am from cincinnati where this happened and most people were very angry at this woman. People just couldn't understand how you could do this. I was one of these people BUT the media here never told us that this was a change in her routine and now I get it. I feel so bad for her and her family. And I promise myself I will never judge another mother again. But the sad thing is another mother just did the same thing right here in cincinnati and lost her 8 month old child. Please do not leave your children in a car its not a risk anyone should take.
post #6 of 70
I still don't get it. No matter what my routine, or non-routine, I would never leave my child alone in a car to die. Never.
post #7 of 70
Coming from someone who slept a total of 3 hours per 24 hr period for the first 18 mos of my 3rd child's life (while also battling PPD and caring for 2 other very small children), I cannot see how a mother could forget that she had her child with her and leave that child alone in a car to die. Seriously. Forget to go to the grocery store? Sure. Forget to take a shower? Absolutely. Forget my own address? Yep. But forget my children? Never. I have to agree with the PP who said she just doesn't get it. I don't, either.
post #8 of 70
Some people are more scatterbrained than others. I could forget. I established this little routine where the last thing I'd do before I closed the car door was double check the back seat. I had another routine where the last thing I'd do immediately after starting the engine and before taking the car out of park was to double check to make sure the carseat was buckled, because without a routine I could forget that too.
post #9 of 70
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Originally Posted by KayleeZoo View Post
Coming from someone who slept a total of 3 hours per 24 hr period for the first 18 mos of my 3rd child's life (while also battling PPD and caring for 2 other very small children), I cannot see how a mother could forget that she had her child with her and leave that child alone in a car to die. Seriously. Forget to go to the grocery store? Sure. Forget to take a shower? Absolutely. Forget my own address? Yep. But forget my children? Never. I have to agree with the PP who said she just doesn't get it. I don't, either.
As someone with only one child, no PPD issues, and very little sleep deprivation, I could forget. I have a tiny car and a loud child, so that makes it harder, but if she were to fall asleep in the back of a larger car, while I was driving somewhere that i don't usually take her.... I could see it. Scares the living crap out of me, and I don't think it's likely to happen, but it's far from impossible.

And my heart goes out to any mama it has happened to, without a second of judgment.
post #10 of 70
This show just broke my heart, and I don't remember the story from last year. The whole situation was just a horrible, terrible, incredibly sad thing. I'm still crying about it.
post #11 of 70
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Originally Posted by KayleeZoo View Post
Coming from someone who slept a total of 3 hours per 24 hr period for the first 18 mos of my 3rd child's life (while also battling PPD and caring for 2 other very small children), I cannot see how a mother could forget that she had her child with her and leave that child alone in a car to die. Seriously. Forget to go to the grocery store? Sure. Forget to take a shower? Absolutely. Forget my own address? Yep. But forget my children? Never. I have to agree with the PP who said she just doesn't get it. I don't, either.
me either.

prolly wouldn't condemn her or anything. but i don't get it either.
post #12 of 70
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Originally Posted by beka1977 View Post
I still don't get it. No matter what my routine, or non-routine, I would never leave my child alone in a car to die. Never.
I don't get it either I have been known to forget my purse in the car and not lock the doors but ummmm my kid? heck no.

We had a similar story here in FL and you can imagine the heat in the car. It only took a couple hours for th child to die BUT it was the grandma who forgot the child, not the mother. She was babysitting.
post #13 of 70
Is this the mother that was an assistant principal? I did not see yesterday but I remember from last year. What I don't get is that she had admitted to previously leaving the girl in the car, including other times when she went to drop things at her school and had been warned by school officials not to do it again. Also, the survielence video shows her backing in to a space near the school door, how did she not see the child when she backed up? then she got out and opened the back of her suv to remove donuts twice, how did she not see the child or the car seat?
post #14 of 70
I am a new mother and can only take this story as a lesson.

My one thought is wouldn't the daycare call if you didn't show up? I know my daycare will call by 9:30 if I don't drop off or call.

Just a thought of a protocol that could be in place to prevent these things. It is always good to have safety measures that assume anything can happen.
We implement stuff like this all the time in manufacturing facilities- every incident is preventable.

I couldn't watch the whole show- too heartbreaking.
post #15 of 70
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Originally Posted by chambom View Post
My one thought is wouldn't the daycare call if you didn't show up? I know my daycare will call by 9:30 if I don't drop off or call.
I work in a daycare. No, we don't call when kids don't show up. Not every kid comes every day so it would be tedious (for us and the parents) to have to call every kids who doesn't show up every day.

I've heard people say that they will put their purse/briefcase/whatever right next to the carseat so they HAVE to go to the back seat, or at least look back there, before going in to work/run errands/whatever. It's a good idea for those who know they are scatterbrained. Actually, it's a good idea for everyone.

I'm in the camp of "I don't understand how it could happen", but only because I was a single mom for most of ds's life. I took him everywhere with me (including to work as a nanny) so I always take him out of the car wherever I am. He's 5 now and I still find myself opening up the back door on the rare times he's not with me. LOL!
post #16 of 70
I also watched the show. I was thinking "I hope there's an MDC discussion about this."
I remember hearing about this incident, as well as others, and being astonished. I am one mother who can't imagine forgetting my child. I can't pass judgment on this mother. I am lucky enough to be a stay at home mom so I spend 24/7 vigilant and focused on my child. However, I can imagine how easy it is to become distracted when sleep-deprived, and out of your element.
It's shocking though. I'm thankful that she was willing to share her story because I definitely agree that we are a too fast paced society and we should all slow down and be more present and focused. I hope that many parents watched and that her telling of her story will prevent other tragic accidents from happening.
post #17 of 70
That is just so sad.
post #18 of 70
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Originally Posted by KayleeZoo View Post
Coming from someone who slept a total of 3 hours per 24 hr period for the first 18 mos of my 3rd child's life (while also battling PPD and caring for 2 other very small children), I cannot see how a mother could forget that she had her child with her and leave that child alone in a car to die. Seriously. Forget to go to the grocery store? Sure. Forget to take a shower? Absolutely. Forget my own address? Yep. But forget my children? Never. I have to agree with the PP who said she just doesn't get it. I don't, either.
I don't get it either. I feel bad for the mom, but I do not understand. I have never had PPD, but I work 40 plus hours while attending school and never have a consistent schedule. Even when I was a SAH student mom and DH and I switched cars constantly with DH in the back seat I never forgot about him.

I really want to understand, I am a true scatterbrain at time, but I can't. It is a baby, not a sack of groceries or a cellphone.
post #19 of 70
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Originally Posted by piad View Post
I don't get it either. I feel bad for the mom, but I do not understand. I have never had PPD, but I work 40 plus hours while attending school and never have a consistent schedule. Even when I was a SAH student mom and DH and I switched cars constantly with DH in the back seat I never forgot about him.

I really want to understand, I am a true scatterbrain at time, but I can't. It is a baby, not a sack of groceries or a cellphone.

Me too. I just don't understand how it can happen....especially for a long period of time. I can somewhat see maybe 5 minutes, but hours?
post #20 of 70
I could totally see that happening and feel for the family to which this tragedy happened.
I am a SAHM to one fairly manageable child.
I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast.
It was a change in routine for her and I guess she goes about her days perfectly safe in the knowledge that her child is in DC.
That little tidbit about her taking her child to the DCP probably got lost in the hectic-ness of her day.
It's such a sad, sad situation.
I feel blessed that I have the luxury of SAH and my DH checks up on us during the day.
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