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post #1 of 10
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So Dads, what do you think of AP and so on? What compromises did you have to work out at home and which issues, particularly from the stuff talked about on MDC, were sticklers between you and your DP?

Here's my family:

Birth-DW gave birth at a midwife center and I couldn't have been happier with the experience. I was initially against the idea of having midwives do our birth, but after researching it was very into the idea.

BF-DW breastfeeds, and I really appreciate her doing it. Barring emergency, we'll do it for at least six months, probably more like a year. It will be hard because DW has to return to work in a month. Her work has a room specifically for pumping, at least.

Cosleeping-DD and DW cosleep. I often sleep elsewhere, which was not unusual for me before DD was born, because I go to sleep later at night and have a hard time sleeping in general. I will be somewhat against cosleeping after DD is not needing to be night fed.

Vaccines-We argue about this, but I think DD will be getting vaxed. I am strongly pro-vax. DW was never vaxed, so leans against it.

Circumcision-We ended up having a girl, but we would have not circumcised if DD had been a DS. I am circumcised. I am not an intactivist like the people in the Case Against Circumcision forum, but I think circumcisions are largely unnecessary in countries with good health care.

Discipline-Not really an issue for us yet. DW thinks consensual living sounds like a good idea. I need to do more research, but tend more toward the natural consequences stuff I read about on the GD forum. We are against hitting/spanking/etc.
post #2 of 10
Well, let's see. My wife is about to have our first child-- she's having contractions, and we're hoping we'll get to see our child sometime today!

We have a midwife, but will be giving birth at a hospital (our local hospital is really cool and is predominantly a midwife practice). We're hoping for a waterbirth, which I suppose is pretty "crunchy."

Breastfeeding: sure. She plans to do it for as long as she can.

Cosleeping: my wife is a bit worried about rolling over on the baby, so we're not going to have him/her in the bed, but in a moses basket next to the bed....

Vaccines: we're both in the skeptical camp-- not skeptical that vaccines (generally) work, but skeptical about the increasing number of them, the shortage of good science on their safety, and the benefits vs. the risks. So we're likely to go the delayed/selective route. For example, I don't see any reason to stick a needle in my child shortly after birth for a sexually transmitted disease....

Circumcision: nope. If the child is a boy, he will be intact, unlike me. I think you have to start from the default position of NOT circumcising, and I've never seen an argument that is convincing enough to move me off of that position.

Discipline: who knows? We'll cross that bridge in a little while-- we have to get through birth and infancy first!

One you didn't mention: cloth diapering. We're doing it, and I am the one in charge of laundry in our household (always have been-- my wife hates doing it and I don't mind). So we'll see how it goes!

As for attachment parenting in general, we're fans, though we will modify as necessary and not feel bad about it. I'm a pretty strong believer in educating oneself, but then doing what feels right. And I think that's the way we'll roll as parents.

One other one: we're pretty into local food, organic or organic-like, natural, etc. I will be making baby food once we get to that point, and I can't wait!

Does all of this make us "crunchy"? I suppose so... though you'd never guess it to look at me...
post #3 of 10
AP...worked well but the kids eventually started running us over and a revert to a Core Ruleset is starting to get us back on track. Now when I sale rules it sounds all serious and stuff, but I myself am very much anti-rules and if anyone tells me how they think I should do something, I just listen and do it my own way. I like the whole"I have not failed, just found 99 ways it doesn't work!" mindset.

Circ: I am...but our 6 month old boy is no-circ. Funny I was circ'd in the name of religon and now I am Atheist...go figure. Anyways...he will not be circ'd.

Vax: ZERO Vax for the boy, all my other kids...were vax'd. My soon to be wife opened my eyes to the potential threats of doing so and I feel better about no vax than I do about having it done.

Cloth Diapers, Homebirth...got the tee-shirt and loved it, I even hopped in the warm pool with her!, we are trying to do the local thing, but it requires alot of planning as those type of markets are only open certain hours and days, and usually do not coincide with pay day. We are however starting our own little farm where we will soon have goats for milk and meat, rabbits for meat, we just finished our chicken coop and have 22 chicks now: 12 layers and 10 broilers.

Here is a link to our farm website:
http://www.thegreenlife4us.com
post #4 of 10
We thought about midwife birth. But frankly, at least in our experience, both the wife and I found the whole doula/midwife thing to be—frankly—too chicky. It's all about the mom, sure, but I felt that this culture tends to exclude the daddy, IMHO.

Definitely cloth diapers. Definitely breastfeeding.

I'm currently reading a book called Baby Wise, which I really enjoy, about the importance of good sleep habits in baby, and how to get her there.
post #5 of 10
You guys are awesome. My DH basically goes with what I want (I'm ever so persuasive!) but at heart he's not what you'd call a crunchy dude. He sort of starts from the mainstream POV and has to be talked away from that towards the less-mainstream.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by wangdangdoodle View Post
We thought about midwife birth. But frankly, at least in our experience, both the wife and I found the whole doula/midwife thing to be—frankly—too chicky. It's all about the mom, sure, but I felt that this culture tends to exclude the daddy, IMHO.

Definitely cloth diapers. Definitely breastfeeding.

I'm currently reading a book called Baby Wise, which I really enjoy, about the importance of good sleep habits in baby, and how to get her there.
At my daughter's birth, my experience was the opposite of what you're expecting. I was very active in it and it was wonderful. We didn't use a doula. Before we went to the orientation at the Midwife Center, I was extremely skeptical of midwives. But I was sold after listening to them. At least the ones in Pittsburgh...really CARE about the women. They want them to have happy, healthy birth experiences. Nothing wrong with that, IMHO. In hospitals there is a much larger chance that your wife will be cut to get that baby out.

DW gave birth in a room that looked like a bedroom with a large bathroom adjacent. The midwife would come in and check her, suggest positions and activities for her to get the baby in a better position, then I coached DW through these things. Our daughter was posterior and quite large, and she took a LONG time to get in the proper position.

I needed to be kind of tough to get DW to do the positioning, but the midwife was dead-on in her suggestions. And we ended up not needing to have any interventions. I am convinced that if we did a hospital birth, there would have been many interventions pushed on us (epidural/pitocin at the least). She was in labor for a day, and at the center for maybe nine hours before Mara was born. It was AMAZING. The nurse and I held DW's legs and helped coach her through pushing. And then afterwards, they just threw the baby up on DW's chest and left the room after doing a hasty cleanup. I can't describe what this was like, just laying there with DW and staring at the baby...in a hospital I don't believe you'd get that experience without fighting the staff. An hour later the midwife and nurse returned and did the weighing, full physical, etc.
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by wangdangdoodle View Post
I'm currently reading a book called Baby Wise, which I really enjoy, about the importance of good sleep habits in baby, and how to get her there.
Read some stuff on this site: www.ezzo.info regarding Babywise/Preparation for Parenting/Along the Infant Way. Scary!!!!!! You will find no support for Babywise-parenting on this board. The parent-directed feeding schedules can and often will lead to the baby being completely formula fed due to mama not making enough milk (which is really supply-demand) fairly quickly. Also, Gary Ezzo's grown children no longer speak to him, from what I hear.
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by 2lilsweetfoxes View Post
Read some stuff on this site: www.ezzo.info regarding Babywise/Preparation for Parenting/Along the Infant Way. Scary!!!!!! You will find no support for Babywise-parenting on this board. The parent-directed feeding schedules can and often will lead to the baby being completely formula fed due to mama not making enough milk (which is really supply-demand) fairly quickly. Also, Gary Ezzo's grown children no longer speak to him, from what I hear.
I know you mean well, and there is no limit on who can post in this forum. But this post is not helpful. Here's a guy saying he's interested in some things peripheral to the topics on this board, and that he likes a book. Then you say "well you'll find no support for that book on this board!" Great. Chased away from the Dads forum by a non-Dad. If he spends even five minutes looking at threads in the other portions of MDC, he'll find this information about Ezzo.

I want to see MORE posts in this forum, not less. And more posts by DADs. Please don't chase them away.
post #9 of 10
Birth- Free-birth family! Oh yeah!

BF-Breast feed until they wean themselves off. Go as long as possible.

Cosleeping- All four of my boys slept in our bed for at least 8 months. Our littlest is still with us, but to the side, at 11 months.

Vaccines- An absolute and total no-no. Anyone approaching my kids with one of those vile concoctions will be summarily treated as though they are attacking with a knife or a gun. I will not let my kids be vaccinated, nor will my wife.

Circumcision- Totally unnecessary.

Discipline- Gentle discipline, for sure. I find it hard to practice, but my wife has flown with it. I admire her, and hope to be able to discipline more gently as the days go by.
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by plunky View Post
I know you mean well, and there is no limit on who can post in this forum. But this post is not helpful. Here's a guy saying he's interested in some things peripheral to the topics on this board, and that he likes a book. Then you say "well you'll find no support for that book on this board!" Great. Chased away from the Dads forum by a non-Dad. If he spends even five minutes looking at threads in the other portions of MDC, he'll find this information about Ezzo.

I want to see MORE posts in this forum, not less. And more posts by DADs. Please don't chase them away.
I am sorry. I will choose my words more carefully next time. Babywise is a great book--in theory. I loved it before I had my baby. I do believe it appeals to parents who want to keep a modicum of control within their lives. Babies do turn your lives upside down. On the subject of getting baby to sleep well, books I'd recommend are Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child (Dr. Marc Weisbluth), The Happiest Baby on the Block (Dr. Harvey Karp) and No Cry Sleep Solution (Elizabeth Pantley and Dr. William Sears).
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