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post #21 of 32
i declined it and i do remember signing something that stated that i was declining it.
post #22 of 32
Just make sure your partner or support person that is with you at the birth knows you're declining.... we had such a great, euphoric vbac that after some beautiful skin-to-skin the nurse asked so politely if she could take the baby to get weighed, etc. (it had been like a half hour, lol) and hubby was watching, taking pics, etc. when before I knew it, the drops were in. I yelled no drops! but it was too late, but the nurse actually ASKED "Is the vit K shot OK then, or not?" and I was able to answer to my liking. Hubby just didn't remember we had declined for my older son and I forgot to review with him.

This was at Sparrow in Lansing... IME they are very supportive of parents wishes.
post #23 of 32
I just declined at Crittenton. I don't remember if I signed anything refusing it or not, but it was no issue.
post #24 of 32
Troy and Royal Oak forced us to accept them- threatened cps and we didn't know our rights .

But I just was a doula(-in-training) on a birth a couple months ago at providence and they were COOL with it.

Beamont is with the dinosaurs I swear. I had my kids on the weekends and they actually told me their lactation department was off on the weekends so i would have to COME BACK on monday to get any help. WTH?

GLAD I have and know about other options now.
post #25 of 32

pros and cons of eye ointment & vitamin k shot

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Beamont is with the dinosaurs I swear. I had my kids on the weekends and they actually told me their lactation department was off on the weekends so i would have to COME BACK on monday to get any help. WTH?
Wow, I didn't know that feeding babies was optional on the weekends. And yet they threaten to call CPS if you don't OK the eye ointment? Talk about screwed up priorities. I guess if you give birth on a Friday night and have a problem with breastfeeding, you're just supposed to give them a bottle? How nice and supportive of them.

On another note, can someone clue me in on the reasons so many people decline the eye ointment? I am pregnant with my first and have not yet had a chance to research the eye ointment and vitamin K shot. There's so much to read and research! If anyone can help me out with the pros and cons of the eye ointment and vitamin k shot, that would be awesome.
post #26 of 32
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Wow, I didn't know that feeding babies was optional on the weekends. And yet they threaten to call CPS if you don't OK the eye ointment? Talk about screwed up priorities. I guess if you give birth on a Friday night and have a problem with breastfeeding, you're just supposed to give them a bottle? How nice and supportive of them.

On another note, can someone clue me in on the reasons so many people decline the eye ointment? I am pregnant with my first and have not yet had a chance to research the eye ointment and vitamin K shot. There's so much to read and research! If anyone can help me out with the pros and cons of the eye ointment and vitamin k shot, that would be awesome.
The eye ointment is prevent blindness in infants born to moms with an STD (specifically gonherra, I believe, though their may be a second). All babies are given the eye ointment as a CYB sort of thing, regardless if they are born vaginally or not. Eythomyocin drops are very inexpensive and the cost to give them to all infants is less than the risk of the infant being exposed the STD. The hospitals figure that any woman that is sexually active is at risk for the STD, regardless of monogamy or past STD test results.

However, the eye ointment presumably stings and it clouds the infants vision, possibly causing issues with bonding. Not to mention the over use of antibiotics is leading to antibiotic resistent bacteria. It doesn't make sense to treat all infants therefore.
post #27 of 32
I declined twice with the Midwives at Mclaren in Flint without even signing a waiver. No probs But I know others at St. Joe's Livingston that have had a beast of a time trying to so!
post #28 of 32
Declining the erythromycin at Sparrow in Lansing was a breeze, but the Vitamin K was another story- I had so many people asking me repeatedly about that. Same with the Hep B vaccine- they just would not take "I do not consent" for a final answer, and asked me each blasted day I was there. The resident for the Peds came in with a legal pad and a pen and asked in a very patronizing tone, "So, what is your excuse for declining Vitamin K?" After talking to her, she finally took my "no" to mean "no."
post #29 of 32
We declined both Hep B and the eye drops at Sparrow in Lansing with no issues, with both kiddos.
post #30 of 32
We declined everything- hep B, eye ointment, vitamin k with no problem in April/06 at Bon Secour (which has since changed to Beaumont). My sister just had her daughter there in September (after the change to Beaumont) and she declined everything without a problem. The only person that had an issue with it was the hospital pediatrician, he wanted her to have the vitamin k but she stuck to her guns and it wasn't a problem.
post #31 of 32
That was my issue at Sparrow- the pediatrics resident (Dr Berry's resident; she had glasses, blonde hair, I forget her name but I bet if I look at my report it'll be on it) was the one who hounded me. The actual L&D surgical team basically said, "Great! Whatever you want!" and just did their thing. The Ped's resident asked me every time she saw me about the Vitamin K, and wrote on the orders (which I saw) for the nurses to ask me again. It was an annoyance, mostly- no threats or haggling outside of the typical scare tactics. I will say that she finally did stop once I told her that I thought that if a newborn doesn't produce Vit K in their intestines for a couple of weeks, there is probably a good reason why, and also that if there was a clotting disorder, we would have discovered it during the genetic screening heel slice. She actually paused and agreed that it made sense.
post #32 of 32
I had a preemie at Sparrow in Lansing almost 5 yrs ago and had no problems what so ever declining: PKU, Circ, Hep B, Eye ointment, Antibiotic IV, supplementary formula, or anything else.

I also just simply stated that they did not have my permission to do anything to my child w/out my consent, and they just had me sign some forms.
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