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post #1 of 7
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We have three foster kids who are all temporary. Next year DH and I are thinking of going to do our Masters in another province. The kids will be with us for over a 1.5 years but they may still be temporary as their birth parents have up to 2 years here to get them back.

If they are still temporary what do you think the chances are of them being allowed to come with us? It really doesn't look like they will be going home but we will of course know more in a year. In time I will call their social worker in ask.

But in the main time any ideas or thoughts or experiences with this?

We would only be gone for 5 months. And we are the only foster family these kids have been placed with and they are all siblings.
post #2 of 7
I have experience with this, though we are in the states so things are probably different here. My story:

dfd was not yet legally free, but the permanency plan had become adoption and the case looked like it was starting to wrap up. In January of that year, the social worker told us to gear up for a termination trial in the spring. In March or April, I ended up being offered two jobs that were on the other coast. The social worker encouraged me to go ahead and accept an offer. We had a TPR trial date for a month or two down the line, I wouldn't be starting my job for another five months, and everything looked like it would be wrapping up.

I accepted my job. Then the trial was continued, and wasn't rescheduled for another six months. The department determined that even though it wasn't in my dfd's best interests to be separated from me (especially since dfd had attachment challenges), that they couldn't let her move until after the trial. I had to move and be without my kids who stayed in our old state with dw, and it was truly one of the lowest times of my life. Awful. We couldn't sell our old house, so I couldn't even afford to rent or buy or set up a home in anyway for us in our new state. I stayed with some of dw's family, and dw and the kids would visit every month or two. We spent a ton of money trying to get by with the travel, etc., and eventually I started renting. Finally the trial happened, and termination was ordered. But though the social worker felt confident the mom wouldn't appeal, she did. While we waited for the appeal, the department at some point consented to dfd staying in the new state for longer and longer periods, and then eventually to moving.

The interstate compact process took a very long time, and thus did the move. Finally dw and the kids joined me permanently in our new state, but the appeals process is still not done and dfd is still with us as a foster kido.

We lost tons and tons and tons and TONS of money through the ordeal, dfd was retraumatized by the experience and we've had to go into major therapy mode, and both kids had a very difficult time. Not to mention that it was one of the most painful experiences of my life.

Some factors that may impact your ability to move include:
1. What is the official permanency plan?
2. Are visitations still being provided? If so, how frequent are they and can you reasonably travel to them from your new province?
3. How close is the case to resolution?
4. How confident is the social worker that s/he knows the direction the case is headed?
5. What is the reason for the move?
6. What does the social worker see as the impact on the kids that would happen if you moved without them?
post #3 of 7
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1. What is the official permanency plan? There is none because they are still temporary. But if they did go permanent they would be still with us. Currently we have no intention of adopting them but we also have no interest in shipping them off to anyone else.

2. Are visitations still being provided? If so, how frequent are they and can you reasonably travel to them from your new province? They are suppose to be weekly. Sometimes the mom comes and sometimes not. They would not be able to continue if we moved. And once they go permanent they are stopped. I would expect their mom to fight for them.

3. How close is the case to resolution? It could be all done by then or it could be 4 months away from finishing.

4. How confident is the social worker that s/he knows the direction the case is headed? I would say pretty confident since other kids in this family are already permanent/adopted.

5. What is the reason for the move? We want to do our Master degrees. We will be back in 5 months. It is perfect timing for us.

6. What does the social worker see as the impact on the kids that would happen if you moved without them? I think the social worker will see that the kids are doing really well with us and growing and thriving. BUT our kids are 100% normal/healthy so really there is no reason that they couldn't survive without us. (Except they love us and we love them!)
post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
Your story sounds so sad. I can't see why they wouldn't just do what was best for the child.
post #5 of 7
Here it would be a one in a million shot of leaving when there are still visitations, even if the parents rarely came. If the caseplan calls for visitations, the state has a legal obligation to provide the opportunity.

This is true even though here kids can be in temporary foster care but still have adoption as the permanency plan. At some point if reunification is not looking at all likely, they switch the plan over to adoption, and reunification becomes a secondary goal. Originally it is always the primary goal. Still, even if adoption was the plan, visitations would stop a move out of state in an instant.
post #6 of 7
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Your story sounds so sad. I can't see why they wouldn't just do what was best for the child.
I know. It is a crazy world .
post #7 of 7
I agree with Sierra, if there's visitations that are still court ordered, then it's not likely that you'd be able to move with the children. And since you don't plan to adopt the children if it comes to that, they'd be likely to move the children without question.
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