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post #141 of 213
I think it is ok for a sip once and a while. When we were children our parents would allow us one. To make us feel like we were drinking grown up drinks, they would pour us some sprite in a wine glass and put a little tiny bit of coke in it to make it look like their wine. It was our 'special' treat when mommy and daddy had a glass of wine or a beer. We loved it.
post #142 of 213
It wouldn't happen here, I don't even let her have any kind of soda and rarely juice.
post #143 of 213
My grandmother had these plastic wine glasses and we would get "kid's wine" aka sparkling white grape juice. You know the kind-comes in a champagne like bottle with the gold foil top. We would have it at Christmas and loved it. It became a tradition and now my kid's can't wait for kid's wine. They have tried real wine and sips of beer, but usually one sip is all they need to realize that it doesn't taste good!
post #144 of 213
We create our realities with our thoughts. When we live in fear, we create from a place of fear. I have known many an alchoholic, & many a responsible drinker. I think that sips as a kid has nothing to do with either outcome. I do believe that it is our responsibility to teach our children well regardless of wether we do it hands on or not.

OP- I think at that point in the game you could tell her some more about the physical and mental effects of alchohol to help explain why it is a grown up drink, and that she can no longer have regular sips because of those reasons.

BTW whoever posted that FAS can happen from 1 drink at any time is full of it! Fear that is. No one has ever had a FAS baby from one drink!!!!! If that's true... than most of the world's population has FAS!

Oh, also, genetics plays a large factor in alchohol metabolism. I think if I were Native American, I would not let my child taste alchohol, let allone drink it my self. Beeing Scottish & German, married to an Irish Frenchmen, I'm not overly concerned about it. I went to high school w/a guy from Russia who could drink vodka like water, but a little bit of tequila & he was floored. makes ya think!
post #145 of 213
I think a lot of people who feel so strongly against allowing their dc to have a small sip of alcohol have most likely been affected by alcoholism in some form. Most people I know and associate with drink alcohol on a consistent, but moderate basis. On any given night, we may or may not have beer in our fridge or a few bottles of wine in our rack. We appreciate fine wines and high quality micro brew beers. If my dc ask for a sip I will undoubtedly give them a very small sip. I remember sipping my mothers glass of wine as a child. I never liked the taste, but liked the experience of tasting the grown up drink. I don't see a correlation between allowing a child to taste a drink and them turning into raging alcoholics. I truly enjoy the taste of certain wines and beers and I am no alcoholic. I hope to be able to share my knowledge of fine wines and good beer with my daughters as they grow. And at the same time, I will educate them on being responsible with alcohol. There are a lot of people who are able to have a drink and not feel the need to get drunk. I can stop at one drink. Maybe some of you who feel so strongly against allowing your dc to taste alcohol feel the way you do because you personally can't stop at just one drink and there fore have a negative association with alcohol... I'm not saying that's everyone's reason, just maybe some of the reasons for a lot of the strong negative reactions against allowing a child a small sip of wine or beer.
post #146 of 213
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Originally Posted by Beckula View Post
All right, I have read all of these responses and I just gotta say: addiction isn't about the substance itself. Do really think heroin addicts really LIKE the stuff and thats why they do it everyday? No. Its usually an issue within the chemical responses of the addict's brain. The same goes for alcoholism. Its not the alcohol itself that is the problem, its the person who's brain is telling them they "need" it to survive. A couple of sips off of Momma's beer or wine isn't going to cause alcoholism. I think modeling responsible drinking is more of an effective way to prevent bad decision making among teens and kids then banning it from your child's presence. JMHO.

ITA.

Also, those few folks in my family (on either side) who don't have serious drug or alcohol addictions tend to have big problems with sugar addiction. Same chemical pathways and all.
post #147 of 213
I don't drink, but have in the past and dh still has an occasional drink. We don't allow our kids to sip alcoholic beverages. But we also don't make a huge deal out of it. The kids are young now. They understand that there are some things that are appropriate for grown-ups that aren't appropriate for kids. And they know that some drinks are for grown-ups. If a child wanted a taste, I'd allow them, to satisfy their curiosity. And if a child picked up a glass and drank some, I wouldn't get bent out of shape. But at their ages, I think it's perfectly OK to say that some things aren't appropriate for them to consume (or see or do). As they get older and if they develop greater curiousity, we'll adapt our approach as fits the situation. I don't think we're creating a "forbidden fruit" situation by choosing this way. But at the same time, I don't think the occasional sip is horrible.
post #148 of 213
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It wouldn't happen here, I don't even let her have any kind of soda and rarely juice.
Same here. I don't think my girls have ever had even juice! Water or milk only.
post #149 of 213
I let my daughters have a glass of wine each whenever I serve wine- generally Friday nights and other Jewish holidays, less often Saturday at lunch and daytime holidays.

I offer DS a sip but he doesn't really like wine.
post #150 of 213
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Originally Posted by mytwogirls View Post
Same here. I don't think my girls have ever had even juice! Water or milk only.
... and here's an interesting difference. I have no qualms serving a small glass of wine, but MILK? Yech. So many hormones. Unless it's hormone free and unpasteurized and unhomogenized, no thanks. Not for my kids.

I think this may be one to chalk up to "agree to disagree" or "different strokes for different folks." We all prioritize based on our life experiences.
post #151 of 213
great thread! this issue has come up...I have given dd sips in the past, I got worried because of how much she liked it.

I feel better after reading this...we brew our own beer too and I would like for us to be a little more relaxed and give her a sip. We drink organic wine once a week or so and she asks and hasnt had any for awhile...i think next time i'll surprise her and let her have a sip. and maybe on thanksgiving...we will see.
post #152 of 213
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Originally Posted by smeisnotapirate View Post
... and here's an interesting difference. I have no qualms serving a small glass of wine, but MILK? Yech. So many hormones. Unless it's hormone free and unpasteurized and unhomogenized, no thanks. Not for my kids.

I think this may be one to chalk up to "agree to disagree" or "different strokes for different folks." We all prioritize based on our life experiences.
It's rice milk.
post #153 of 213
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Originally Posted by mytwogirls View Post
It's rice milk.
Ok. The point still stands. We prioritize based on our experiences.
post #154 of 213
After giving it some thought, I think I would let my DD sip a good beer before leting her sip a Coke. (not that I will have to deal with this for a few years yet.) However, at least the former contains things like hops, barley, perhaps oats... as oposed to just a ton of sugar, cafeen, and artificial flavor.

My MIL drinks nothing but orange soda, oh and tang ocationaly. No water, ever. There are 53g of sugar in 1 of her sodas... 53g! Now that's what I call an adiction!

My dad came to visit reciently, he brought us a couple of Samuel Smith oatmeal stouts, & said the lady at the liquor store told him "Did you know that this beer was originaly developed for lactating mothers?" Go figure!

Also, let us not forget that we are talking about sips when asked here, I used to have a neibor who once asked me for some juce while they were over. My DH said that he saw them put the juice in their 3yo DD's sippy cup w/ some whisky... to calm her down & knock her out basicly. Now that is WRONG!!!!! I had some choice words the next time I saw them!:
post #155 of 213
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Originally Posted by RiverMamma View Post



My dad came to visit reciently, he brought us a couple of Samuel Smith oatmeal stouts, & said the lady at the liquor store told him "Did you know that this beer was originaly developed for lactating mothers?" Go figure!

brilliant!
post #156 of 213
dh and i are both alcoholics. my dad, grandma, grandpa and both his parents are alcoholics.

at this point i can have 1/2 a glass occasionally but i don't like the way it impairs my judgment. we have no way to model responsible alcohol use and given our genetics i think ds and dd would do better not ever touching the stuff. i still haven't decided how we are going to do this because i try to practice CL for the most part but i have serious issues with alcohol.

to me, drinking every (or even most) nights a week sounds excessive. i don't really care if it's one beer or ten. a child having one sip or two to TRY would not be a concern to me but sipping on a regular basis would bother me at age five. that seems too young.

and frankly, just because "millions of french women" do it doesn't really have any bearing on me or my actions. honestly, it sounds like a justification or rationalization for doing something you know you shouldn't do

millions of americans do all sorts of things i would never consider for an instant. so, i'm not sure why a different culture's mores would overrule my own opinion.

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post #157 of 213
PlayaMama, I think if I were in your shoes, I would steer clear as well. That seems the wisest thing to do given your circumstances. I think the cultural debate is based on personal reasoning. Like you said, there are American cultural things that are rediculous, and I tend to pick & choose from many cultures what resonates with and sounds reasonable to me. I don't subscribe to one culture or another, or religion for that matter. We don't have to fit into any particular box, we can reason & weigh what philosiphies suit our lives & personalities from a multitude of cultures, religions, etc... to create the best life for us as individuals, and for our families.
I think that you have chosen wisley for your life and your family.
post #158 of 213
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Originally Posted by smeisnotapirate View Post
Ok. The point still stands. We prioritize based on our experiences.
Have you ever had "raw" milk? I grew up in a rural area, live on a farm and I have NEVER had raw milk? Is it good? I would be willing to try it, I just can't FIND it anywhere!
post #159 of 213
Nope. DS1 knows that beer and wine is for grown ups and when he is older he will be able to have some too but right now his body is still growing and alcohol would not be good for his growing body.

I was never allowed sips of alcohol as a child and I am not nor have I ever been an alcoholic. I didn't consider it 'forbidden fruit', just something like coffee that some adults enjoyed but I thought was gross.

We drink maybe once a month. (But that's mostly a money saving issue not a moral one)
post #160 of 213

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Originally Posted by mytwogirls View Post
Have you ever had "raw" milk? I grew up in a rural area, live on a farm and I have NEVER had raw milk? Is it good? I would be willing to try it, I just can't FIND it anywhere!
I have had raw milk. It was creamier. Hard to find because a lot of states have outlawed it. At least mine has. (We bought directly from a local farmer for about 2 years before the law was passed.... I miss it, reusable glass bottles, the little letters about how the cows were doing. *sigh*)
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