The Feb. 2009 Astrology thread

[LionTigerBear]

I have been thinking about possible dates my baby might actually be born, due to my due date recently being changed-- and this got me to wondering what the astrology for those days looks like. It's very interesting. All times are Eastern Time, adjust accordingly.

Feb. 1st The Sun will be in Aquarius. The Moon is in Aries. Mercury is in Capricorn, retrograding, but goes direct at 2:20am. Mars is in Capricorn. Venus is in Pisces. Jupiter is in Aquarius and will be there for the rest of the month.

Feb. 2nd the Moon moves into Taurus at 5:07pm. The Sun in Aquarius will form a square to the Moon (half moon) in Taurus at 6:12pm. Sun-square-Moon is considered an inauspicious (difficult, challenging) aspect to have in one's natal horoscope. Late this day, Venus will move into Aries at 11:42pm and will remain there for the rest of the month. [Interestingly, Venus will start retrograding on March 6th and won't go direct until mid April.]

Feb. 3rd the Moon will move into Gemini at 9:13pm.

Feb. 4th Mars moves into Aquarius at 10:55am and will be there for the rest of the month.

Feb. 5th the Moon moves into Cancer at 11:04pm.

Feb. 7th at 11:43pm the Moon moves into Leo.

Feb. 9th the Sun in Aquarius will be in opposition to the full Moon in Leo (9:51 AM EST).

Feb. 10th the Moon will move into Virgo just after midnight at 12:40am.

Feb. 12th the Moon will move into Libra at 3:37am.

Feb. 14th-- Valentine's day-- the Moon will move into Scorpio at 9:55am, Mercury will move into Aquarius at 10:32am. Mercury, which was retrograding in January, and went direct on the 1st, now passes the point where it started retrograding in January.

Feb. 16th the Sun will be in a square aspect to the Moon (half moon) at 4:38pm. This is considered an inauspicious (difficult, challenging) aspect to have in one's natal horoscope. The Moon moves into Sagittarius at 7:53 in the eve.

Feb. 18th the Sun moves into Pisces at 7:46am.

Feb. 19th the Moon moves into Capricorn at 8:25am.

Feb. 21st the Moon moves into Aquarius at 9:05pm.

Feb. 24th the Moon will move into Pisces at 7:56am. The Sun in Pisces and the new Moon in Pisces will be conjunct at 8:34pm.

Feb. 26th the Moon moves into Aries at 4:22pm.

Feb. 28th the Moon moves into Taurus at 10:31pm.

[nighten]

I think new baby will come on the 9th or the 12th.

Guinevere is an Aries, moon in Cancer, Leo rising. (I harbor secret hopes she'll be a scientist, but I suspect she'll go into acting. )

She's the flip of my mom (and often astrological similarities in families skip a generation), who is a Cancer with a moon in Aries. My dad is a Libra, which is why I'm thinking there might be a Libra moon in there for new baby. But the full moon thing (full moon = sun and moon are in opposition) with Aq/Leo is very strong, and a big possibility.

All of my in-laws are Cancers though, but I don't see new baby coming that early or late, to end up with a Cancer moon.

I honestly don't see new baby having any specific similarities, sun/moon wise to me or my husband. Again, at least in my family, seems like the astrological links skip a generation. My chart is very similar to my paternal grandmother's.

[LionTigerBear]

The Other Planets

Saturn is in Virgo and will start retrograding in Virgo this December and will remain in retrograde until May of next year. This will be a time for the global conciousness to reexamine resposibilities and consequences regarding human health, and the health and healing of the planet. Furthermore, steps and actions taken toward healing or improvement during the retrograde will probably not be effective. This is more a time for analysis and reconsideration than for action. For all of the children born during this time, these themes will be imprinted in their natal charts as a part of their psyche and character forever. How these themes affect them will depend on the rest of the chart of course.

Uranus will be direct in Pisces in February.

Neptune will be direct in Aquarius.

Pluto will be direct in Capricorn.

[LionTigerBear]

I am hoping to avoid moon in Capricorn since I already have a moon in Capricorn child-- and HOOO boy can you say high maintenance, I mean God bless him he's great and I love him more than anything, wouldn't change him for the world, you know, and his Moon in Cap can be soooo funny sometimes, but I just don't think I can handle ANOTHER one. Moon in Capricorn, unless very well aspected in the chart, tends to cause a fussy, hard-to-please baby and a prone-to-whining-and-comlaining, glass-half-EMPTY kind of personality. (I may be biased because my son's Moon is NOt well-aspected so I have seen the negative side of it!) On the amusing side, it tends to make for a child's personality that is adorabley skeptical and practical ("Dragons can't really fly, mommy. That's silly.") He's also a bit of an "old man" for his age-- very mature for his age but the negative side of this is that he seems to feel a personal responsibility for more than he needs to. Very cautious and careful personality.

My other son is a moon in Scorpio and he is so intense and just SCREAMS when he doesn't get his way-- and can go from sweet hugs and kisses to hitting you and hating you to kissing you and you're his favorite person again-- all within two minutes-- all because he was denied a second helping of cake or some similarly trivial thing-- but honestly I still think the Scorpio moon is easier than the Capricorn moon!

The Moon will be in Capricorn most of Feb 19th, all of the 20th and most of the 21st. And being "due" on the 13th and I will probably go about a week late, I could easily go on one of those days, so I will try not to! Unless of course it "feels" right. I'm sure the baby knows when she needs ot be born. If she IS a Cap-Moon perhaps she will share an extra-special bond with her big brother. They can commiserate and worry together.

[nighten]

*laughs*

I have a Moon in Capricorn. It is definitely not easy at times and there is a tendency toward being pessimistic (especially when there are strong water signs in the chart too) or defeatist. But it's less about whining and more about trying to organize and control emotions rather than simply experiencing them. There's a definite love/hate thing with emotions in general I think for Moon in Capricorn.

The whining you're witnessing is likely just the symptom -- the issue is feeling out of control. Moon in Capricorn kids do better when they are able to externalize their emotions into tangible projects with visible results. Not in an avoidance approach, but having some external way to express what they're feeling can help to make sense of confusing or mixed emotions. And provide them with a sense of order and control.

They (like children with strong Virgo energy) also tend to do better when they can establish a structured routine.

I'm sure you know that the Moon is most uncomfortable in Capricorn, and these folks have a very difficult time dealing with emotions in general at times. So while it can be frustrating for you, it is likely doubly so for your child. Being able to express emotions in a tangible manner is key I think.

[LionTigerBear]

Originally Posted by nighten

I think new baby will come on the 9th or the 12th.

So let's see . . .

Feb. 9th-- Sun in Aquarius, in opposition to Full Moon in Leo, Mercury in Capricorn, Mars in Aquarius (in opposition to moon also!), Venus in Aries (well-aspected to the Sun, Moon, Mercury, and possibly to Mars, Jupiter and Neptune), Jupiter in Aquarius, Saturn retrograde in Virgo, etc.

Well that seems like a good day-- beneficient and interesting aspects.

Feb. 12th would be a similarly well-aspected day except that Venus in Aries would be in opposition to the Moon in Libra which might be difficult in some regards, but if both were well-aspected otherwise it shouldn't cause the child too much stress.

Both of those would be great days to have a baby. I would point out that it is unusual to give birth before the "due date", though.

[nighten]

I had Guinevere one week early (not induced). And I'm looking less at the specific aspects within the birth chart and more at the degrees and aspects by comparison to other charts in the family.

This baby will come when she's ready, regardless. I'm just leaning towards the 9th or 12th, but I admit I haven't studied all the charts lately. Am in no rush.

ETA: So for instance, Sun conj. Mars gives similar tendencies to Sun in Aries (which is Winnie, and shared by several grandparents). The Leo energy plays into strong fifth house activity in three grandparent charts, as well as the ascendant of G's chart. So that sort of thing. But she may very well come on her due date or after, and end up with a Mercury in Aq (shared by me and several other family members), and a Venus conj. her sister's sun. Who knows.

[LionTigerBear]

Originally Posted by nighten

. . . there is a tendency toward being pessimistic (especially when there are strong water signs in the chart too) or defeatist.

Yes, he has a Cancer Rising that kind of feeds his Moon in Cap. His moon is in awkward aspect to his Sun in Leo-- they are quincunx-- an aspect for growth and learning but of course he's still young so we are still learning.

I really appreciated your insights into Cap moon, thank you for sharing! I really want to be able to understand and help my little guy.

[LionTigerBear]

Originally Posted by nighten

So for instance, Sun conj. Mars gives similar tendencies to Sun in Aries (which is Winnie, and shared by several grandparents). The Leo energy plays into strong fifth house activity in three grandparent charts, as well as the ascendant of G's chart. So that sort of thing. But she may very well come on her due date or after, and end up with a Mercury in Aq (shared by me and several other family members), and a Venus conj. her sister's sun. Who knows.

Interesting. In our immediate family (dh, me, and two sons) we all have very similar and many shared positions-- for instance all of us are either Cancer or Scorpio Rising, two of us have Scorpio Moons, two of us are sun in Leos, hmm, can't remember what else. I plan to look into it more. I haven't looked at the older generation as much, but off the top of my head I know that all of the grandparents that the children are actually close to are either Cancers or Cancer risings. The Scorpio/Cancer thing seems to be a strong theme in our family.

[AllyRae]

Do you happen to have any January ones? Amelia will be born sometime between Janaury 12-19.

Not that I understand what any of that stuff means--I'm not good with it at all. Jocelyn was born February 4th--is there something that stuff says about her? :

[nighten]

LTB, is his moon in his 6th or 7th house? That (as well as aspects) can be even more effective than the sign, honestly, in terms of dealing with the energy. The house the planet's in indicates where in one's life that energy either expresses itself or is inhibited the strongest, if that makes sense.

So for instance, if his moon is in his 6th house then routine would be a very big factor in his life, and you may notice the negative Moon in Cap tendencies coming out more when that routine is interrupted. A good thing to try here is to encourage doing things for others -- it's the house of service -- and while that seems kind of common sense, it's just one thing that might help him deal with some confusing emotions easier.

But if it's in his 7th house, then routine may not be quite as vital, etc. But external approval would be very important. That sort of thing.

ETA: As for immediate family similarities, I've found the ascendant and first house placement/aspects seem to be the strongest, but that makes sense -- it's about physical attributes, etc. The Sun/Moon specifics in my family tend to skip a generation in terms of similarities, and be a bit more subtle (or challenging -- as in my case of my sun and moon squaring or opposing my parents' suns and moons). But obviously the more people in a family, the greater the chance of there being crossover. It was just me and my brother and we shared a rising sign and Venus. Our moons are squared, and our suns trine...

So there are aspects for sure, but I guess I look more for the repetition outside the immediate family. That might just be a wonky thing with my family though.

AllyRae, was Jocelyn born in 2008? For really specific info, you need the time of birth and the location too. If you want, I can run a chart for you and if you're not comfy posting the specific birth info, you can PM me. Or LTB might be able to do it as well. Either way.

[LionTigerBear]

Nighten, my son's moon is in the 7th house. Interesting.

AllyRae, you can get free charts at www.astro.com and also www.alabe.com. That's what I use.

[nighten]

LTB, let me know if you want to talk about the Moon in Capricorn/7th house stuff more. If you'd rather, I'm happy to take it to PM so as to not further hijack your fun thread. But I tend to go on a bit, and don't want to detract from the point of this cool topic.

[LionTigerBear]

Nighten, I love your insights.

I just had an interesting idea-- I should examine my own natal chart in aspect to different dates in February and see what's going on for me, to see when baby might make an appearance. Hmm, not exactly sure what I'm looking for, but maybe it will pop out at me when I see it-- any ideas?

[nighten]

I think that's a great idea. When I was born, the sun and moon were squaring my mom's sun and moon. It was a hard time for her.

When Guinevere was born, the sun was squaring my moon, and the moon was opposing my moon. Also not an easy time for me.

I think the moon really is a big trigger here -- in terms of kicking off labor and whatnot. Seems like that's fairly consistent.

I honestly can't think of a harmonious mother/child chart off the top of my head (in terms of the moon at least). Most of them seem to have some direct challenges/conflicting aspects. I wonder if easier births are represented by more harmonious charts? That's really interesting!

[LionTigerBear]

My first son's birth was long and difficult. My moon was semisextile the Ascendant at the time. My moon was also quincunx the moon, and the moon was sextile to my mars. The moon was in the seventh house and also in MY seventh house.

When my second son was born, it was a fast and comparatively easy birth. My moon was once again quincunx the moon (ah ha, is this something I should be looking for?) My mars was quincunx the moon as well. Also there was an exact quincunx between my sun and the sun at the time.

I'm noticing a theme here.

[LionTigerBear]

Sorry I'm hogging the thread I started.

Okay, so late on Feb. 22nd would be a great time for me to give birth. About 11pm, the moon will be trine my moon, the sun will be trine my sun, venus will be sextile my moon, and the moon will be sextile my jupiter. Basically, that day will be sunshine and roses for me! Wishful thinking that I could go into labor then? Haha, we'll see!

The moon will be quincuncx my moon on the 15th and the 20th, but I just don't think I'll go into labor then. I don't want another quincuncx labor! I want a trine or sextile labor this time.

[DreamsInDigital]

Okay so my DH and I are both Geminis. I have a Scorpio moon and rising, he has a Gemini moon and Scorpio rising.

My kids are:
Taurus, Cancer moon, Virgo rising
Virgo, Pisces moon, Aries rising
Sagittarius, Aquarius moon, Scorpio rising
Aquarius, Scorpio moon, Sagittarius rising

My EDD is Feb 9th but I've been feeling more like late Jan will be this baby's birthdate. Any insight?

[LionTigerBear]

Originally Posted by DreamsInDigital

Okay so my DH and I are both Geminis. I have a Scorpio moon and rising, he has a Gemini moon and Scorpio rising.

My kids are:
Taurus, Cancer moon, Virgo rising
Virgo, Pisces moon, Aries rising
Sagittarius, Aquarius moon, Scorpio rising
Aquarius, Scorpio moon, Sagittarius rising

My EDD is Feb 9th but I've been feeling more like late Jan will be this baby's birthdate. Any insight?

If I were you I would find out what degree your moon sign is at, and then look to see if there are any significant aspects between your inner planets and your children's inner planets-- look for patterns, especially in regards to the moon signs. Then examine the weeks surrounding your due date for where the moon will be to see when the moon (and maybe other planets) might form important aspects to your moon and other planets. I would also pay attention to your intuition and see which specific days seem to jump out at you.

It's kind of a time-intensive process but fun.

[DreamsInDigital]

I couldn't find any pattern to my kids' inner planets compared to mine or compared to each other. They're all different (and not surprisingly, their personalities are all vastly different) so I guess this baby just wants to keep me guessing!