The Feb. 2009 Astrology thread - Page 2

[LionTigerBear]

With each of my boys, their personalities are very different from each other, but I have a similar relationship with each. And the reason is, My sun is quincuncx or nearly quincuncx each of their suns, and my moon is exactly quincunx each of their moons. So both of the boys are big learning/growth experiences for me (and they will learn a lot from me!) The other interesting thing is that with both of them, my natal moon is trine their neptunes, which I'm not exactly sure what that means.

But I feel like my relationship with our only daughter and last child will be different. I have less to learn to with this birth experience so I don't know that the moons will be quincuncx again. So I don't think that pattern will hold true. Well, for one thing, the quincuncx suns pattern obviously didn't either. So it will be interesting to see. But a couple of days did pop out at me so I have been examining them.

[Devaskyla]

Interesting thread. I've been into astrology for a long time, but I've never really studied it & don't understand all the angles/houses stuff. I usually just figure out what planet is in what sign, but I still have to look up what that means every time.

I have Sun in Cap, Moon in Leo & Libra rising. Lots of fun.
Ds1 is Leo, with Moon in Virgo & Aquarius rising.
Ds2 is Cancer with Moon in Scorpio & Sagittarius rising.

I've been thinking this baby will come around Feb 18. And I'm really, really hoping he/she will be calmer/easier to parent than the other 2.

[LionTigerBear]

So I was looking at this again this morning.

Interstingly, DS2 was born on the day that we "decided" he should be born on-- that is, the day that we had on our consciousness and had discussed. DH said it was his "lucky number" day.

So I think there is value to "deciding" what days are good beforehand, and kind of get that ingrained in my subconcious and give that info to the baby.

My due date is the 13th. For me, I don't want to have the baby before the 14th of Feb, as I want to avoid the after affects of the Mercury Retrograde.

So I looked at the planetary positions from the 14th through the 26th.

The 14th is actually a really good day for a birthday. The Sun is trine the moon in the early morning (about 2am EST) and there are only two really challenging aspects. One of the the challenging aspects is Moon square Mercury, the only other notable one is Venus square Pluto, which is in affect for almost that whole window of time anyway. So that's a great day. Interestingly, a baby born about 4am that morning would have several squares to her ASC/DESC but that can be remedied by moving the birth time by two hours and they're all trines.

After that, the 15th through the 2oth are all days I would prefer to skip. Lots of bad aspects to the moon.

The 21st is a great day, except that I had hoped to avoid another baby with Moon in Capricorn, but with everything else looking well-aspected, I can deal. The 21st through the 25th are all pretty good days.

On the 26th, I started getting more challenging aspects again (can't rememebr what exactly) and I figured I don't really want to wait that long anyway so I stopped looking. So I plan to try holding out for either the 14th (she would be an aquarius!) or to hit that window of the 21st to the 25th (for a Piscean!)

P.S. If I follow my previous pattern with my other births, she would be born on the 21st during the Moon in Cap. We shall see!

[k13]

I'm curious about January too since I may go early. I'm holding out for at least the 20th for an aquarius. Hubby predicted Feb 2 - I'd be surprised if I manage to keep it in that long.

I've got a virgo dd with virgo rising and moon in capricorn... but she is my low maintnenance mellow child. She can be very emotionally sensitive.

My other dd is sun in libra, aries rising and moon in aries. She is the high-maintenance child!

[LionTigerBear]

Well, Mercury will be retrograde from January 11th to Feb 1st. Personally I wouldn't want to have my baby during a mercury retrograde, but obviously a lot of people will. People with mercury retrograde in their birth charts tend to think and communicate differently than the rest of us. This can lead to communication problems and having a hard time articulating what they mean. People born during a mercury retrograde feel more normal and have an easier time communicating during mercury retrogrades, but mercury retrogrades only happen about three times a year for a couple-few weeks at a time, so that's not particularly helpful.

A lot has been written on the implications of mercury retrograde in the birth chart, so you can definitely google it.

I'll be back in a bit with more of what's going on in January.

[LionTigerBear]

Here is a link to a free ephemeris for 2009. It tells you where all the planets will be.

Okay, I'm looking really quickly, so I might be missing some things, but the 1st and 2nd look good, the 3rd I would skip, definitely skip the 4th (moon square sun all day), I would probably skip the 5th, although earlier in the day on the fifth is better than the evening, and absolutely avoid the morning of the 6th, the evening of the 6th is much better. I would try to avoid the seventh-- moon square venus all day-- but it's not the worst aspect in the world. Moon square venus continues into the morning of the 8th, and then the aspects only get worse, with the moon square to Saturn and Uranus. Yikes! I would avoid that, not only for the sake of the child's natal chart, but because that sounds like a very unpleasant birth experience! Emotionally disturbing, lots of hard work, and just uncomfortable and unsettling and possible negative twists and surprises.

So for the first week in January, your best bets are the 1st and the 2nd.

On the 9th, the negative moon aspects continue until later that evening. So skip the morning and afternoon of the 9th, but evening/late night looks great. The 10th is a great day, all the way through. The only possible "negative" is that the moon will be opposite the sun from the evening to the morning of the 11th. Some consider this a negative aspect, but I don't necessarily see it that way, just that there's a lot of energy there, that's for sure. A child born at this time would have a very interesting personality. A birth at that time is likely to turn out different than what you expected but probably in a good way, especially since the moon is trine Uranus at that time. Early morning of the 11th, the moon is still opposite the sun but also moves into oppposition with Uranus, and honestly I would avoid that. Then later on the 11th, the moon is still opposite uranus, no longer opposite the sun, but has now moved into opposition with venus. So skip the 11th all day, and also the first half of the 12th. In the evening of the 12th those aspects have cleared up but there is a moon opposition neptune. This is a little bad but not horrible, so I would say the second half of the 12th is a decent time to have a baby. Again, the birth experience itself might not go as you had hoped and dreamed, or might in some way challenge your dreams and wishes. This aspect lasts into the first part of the 13th. The evening of the 13th, the moon is back in opposition with venus again. Remember also that mercury will start retrograding on the 11th, so that is in force for the rest of the month as well.

The 14th-18th I would totally skip-- especially the 17th and 18th!!! Not good days at all. The morning of the 19th is bad too, but by evening the 19th is fine. The evening of the 19th has a pesky moon square uranus thing, but that's all-- much better than the five days previous. The 20th seems to be a great day. Remember the sun moves into Aquarius early this day, too. Definitely skip the 21st and 22nd. The 23rd is okay. I would skip the 24th through the 26th. The 27th is extremely interesting to me, you will notice if you look at a chart of that day that all of the planets except Saturn and Pluto are located close together in three consecutive signs-- capricorn, aquarius, and pisces. These are three "old" signs, or universal/community signs. This would make for an interesting personality, that's for sure. I wouldn't call it an easy chart, but not at all bad and very interesting. This interesting structure continues into the 28th, of course, but things heat up as Mercury and Mars move into trine with lone Saturn, and Venus forms an oppositon to Saturn. So, the person born on this day would have even more energy to their personality. Venus opposition Saturn is a difficult aspect, but the trines are positive and I still think the whole structure is awfully interesting-- posiibly worth it.

The 29th has both some good and some bad aspects to it. Venus moves into a square with Pluto at this point-- considered a negative aspect-- and this aspect will remain in force for a few weeks. I would definitely skip the 3oth, as the Moon will be square Pluto, and I would NOT want to give birth under that aspect. Yikes. Luckily, the moon will also be sextile to Jupiter at the same time, so hopefully that will bring some comfort to those mamas who do have to give birth at that time. On the 31st, the moon is square to venus and mars, so I would skip that, however on the plus side, the sun and moon are sextile so that's nice.

Whew. Hope that helps. Now, I really just skimmed thios so it's entirely possible I missed important things. So I advise looking into further detail into the days you are interested in, and double check everything I stated here.

[LionTigerBear]

Another note about the Mercury Retrograde from Jan 11th to Feb 1st-- the retrograde will affect communication and small travels in every way, so be prepared for miscommunications with medical and care providers, missed paperwork, trouble with making bill payments, unexpected snafus when it comes to paying for or planning your birth, expect the midwife (or your doula or even your husband!) to not answer the phone when you need them to come for the birth, and/or expect delays on the way to the hospital (travel) or in others traveling to your home for the birth, etc etc etc. Basically, expect everything to be more complicated and things to not go quite as expected during the mercury retrograde. Try to be patient in all dealings with people and in travels and expectations, and when comminucating verbally or via emial or whatever, check and recheck and triple check everything, make NO ASSUMPTIONS!, be super careful with paper work, etc etc etc.

I would also absolutely avoid dealing with buying things over the internet during the mercury retrograde if you can at all help it. I have had more problems with that, you don't even know. ::: On of the more recent mercury retrogrades I was on the phone for days trying to get online stores to fix/cancel double orders of the same thing, and ebay and paypal both froze my accounts for security reasons, plus I had trouble with one of my Visa cards getting frozen too. It was all this crazy/random/whattheheck kind of stuff going on for no good reason. And then my online purchases took forever to be processed and actually show up. All this trouble within a few weeks! Gee whiz. That kind of stuff happens during a mercury retrograde.

[Mainstream Hippie]

Wait, so when is Pisces, Virgo Rising? That's when I am shooting for.

[LionTigerBear]

The Sun will go into Pisces on Feb 18th, at 7:46 am EST. So any birthday after the 18th will be a Pisces (well until Mar. 20th ).

To get a Virgo Rising, you have to look at the hours of each particular day. A Rising Sign lasts about two hours so all 12 Rising Signs are represented at some point in any 24 hour period. A child born at dawn will have the same Rising Sign and Sun Sign. (For instance, if you had your baby at 6:30am they would be a Pisces with Pisces Rising.) My son was a Libra, born at 8am, so he was a Scorpio Rising-- Scorpio is one sign away from Libra-- and the Rising sign was one sign away because it was about an hour or two past sun rise. Does that make sense?

So to get a baby with the opposite Rising sign (because Virgo and Pisces are exact opposites in the zodiac), they would need to be born in the evening, about sunset or just after. You will have to check the exact times for yourself (try astro.com).

But anyway, you could get a Virgo Rising any one of those days during Pisces, just depends on the time of day. Kind of hard to plan for that unless you have a planned Cesarean, and even then, they won't usually schedule evening surgery. But to encourage going into labor at that time naturally, you can try meditating on it, tell the baby your plan, maybe try saying affirmations and work it into your visualizations and so forth, and maybe it'll work out that way!!

[Mainstream Hippie]

I find it all fascinating. I was mostly just teasing about the Pisces, Virgo Rising, because I "adopted" Danny's Song as this child's son, way long ago, before realizing he has a chance of being an Aquarius or Pisces, before finding out he was a boy, and it is something I would sing to myself when I was worried about him, or would think about him when I heard it on the radio... it has a line that says, "Pisces, Virgo Rising is a very good sign... strong and kind, and the little boy is mine."

[Unconventional1]

My EDD is the 14th, but with DS I went at 38 w 4 d, and I feel like I will be going early again.

Our charts say:
Me- Sun in 10 degrees Cancer, Moon 29 deg Aquarius, Aquarius rising
DH- Sun 18 deg Virgo, Moon 1 deg Libra, Libra rising
DS- Sun 22 deg Sagittarius, moon 11 deg Libra, Scorpio rising

Any insights as to a good day for us fit wise? I don't know a whole lot about astrology. TIA!

[LionTigerBear]

Originally Posted by Unconventional1

My EDD is the 14th, but with DS I went at 38 w 4 d, and I feel like I will be going early again.

Our charts say:
Me- Sun in 10 degrees Cancer, Moon 29 deg Aquarius, Aquarius rising
DH- Sun 18 deg Virgo, Moon 1 deg Libra, Libra rising
DS- Sun 22 deg Sagittarius, moon 11 deg Libra, Scorpio rising

Any insights as to a good day for us fit wise? I don't know a whole lot about astrology. TIA!

Pretty much anything. Really. Not trying to be difficult, but pretty much any planet/sign combo is bound to aspect well with parts of your and your husband's chart, and not aspect well with others. You already know you'll have an Aquarius, so right off the bat that will work well with your Moon and Rising sign, and will probably work well with your husband's moon and Rising sign and your son's moon sign as well. It will also probably NOT aspect well with either of your sun signs. Which is normal, not everything between two people's charts can harmonize easily. So, any moon sign for the baby will work well with some parts of your chart and not work well with other parts of your chart.

Take your son for example. His sun sign and moon sign are not in harmony with either your or your husband's sun signs, but work well with both of your moon and rising signs. His rising sign works well with your sun signs and not with the moon or rising signs. This is normal within families and within any relationship. Even between your husband's and your chart, not everything "fits" well together.

It's early and I'm tired, I hope that makes some sense.

[Unconventional1]

Thanks! We will be happy with any day really, but looking through your posted info made me think about pre-planning some days in my mind.

[LionTigerBear]

Originally Posted by Unconventional1

Thanks! We will be happy with any day really, but looking through your posted info made me think about pre-planning some days in my mind.

A little more awake this time.

While any possible birth chart-personality will fit in with your family well, some birth charts will be easier for the child than others, and may make for an easier life for them, than others. On the other hand, it's good to remember that "difficult" charts can also have a LOT of room for growth and for great accomplishment if the child chooses to harness the energies that way. More harmonious charts sometimes have less catalyst for motivation for great achievements.

The other consideration in looking at some days over others, is that some days are just easier to give birth on. The moon rules giving birth, and so you want to look at how the moon is in aspect to other planets. As far a labor goes, Saturn might relate to how much "work" or not, the labor is, mars would relate to the physical/muscular/strength aspect of it, Pluto relates to power/control/violence factors, but can also be experienced as spiritual transformation/rebirth. Venus would rule the social and pleasure elements of birth, and Mercury would be for communication and travel to the hospital or travel of the midwives or other attendants to your house. Jupiter might indicate general good fortune and an element of "fun" of not. The sun in relation to the moon indicates how the birth will affect you and your child individually as persons. So to pick a good day for a good birth, I would look to to the moon primarily to see how it is aspected.

You can also look to see how the moon and other planets aspect your natal chart planets, but that's getting pretty in-depth right there. Fun though, if you're into astrology.

Having the moon be well aspected is also good for your child's birth chart, because a well-aspected moon means a healthy and secure emotional foundation for your child.

[k13]

Well crap, January is looking rather astrologically challenging Stay in baby! Thanks for all the info!!

[Mommy StormRaven]

Originally Posted by LionTigerBear

I would point out that it is unusual to give birth before the "due date", though.

Actually for me it would be unusual to give birth on or after the EDD.

I've never made it to 40 weeks, DS arrived at 35 weeks, DD#1 @ 39+2 and DD#2 @ 37+2. This one (EDD 2/23) is already head down and fully engaged in my pelvis and has been since 31+3 with constant contractions more *real* than BH...

I dont' see her witing much past 2/10 if she stays put that long....

BUt the astrology is cool to look at, May want to check out the numerology in combination with the astrology though - that can have a tremendous effect as well - both the name numerology AND the DOB numerology....

Goo dLuck!

[LionTigerBear]

Originally Posted by Mommy StormRaven

But the astrology is cool to look at, May want to check out the numerology in combination with the astrology though - that can have a tremendous effect as well - both the name numerology AND the DOB numerology....

Hmmmm, I never got into numerology much . . .

Looks like with the name we picked she will be a "6", with a "Soul Urge" number of 3 and an "Inner Dream" number of 3 also. Interestingly, DH is a "6" and both of our boys have the "Soul Urge" number of 3 as well. Oh, and 6 is my "Inner Dream" number, too.

If she were born on the 14th, she would have a life path number of 9.
If she were born on the 21st, she would have a life path number of 7.
If she were born on the 22nd, she would have a life path number of 8.
If she were born on the 23rd, she would have a life path number of 9.
If she were born on the 24th, she would have a life path number of 1.
If she were born on the 25th, she would have a life path number of 2.

Interesting, though I'm not as familiar with what that means. With the numerology of the dates I'm leaning towards the 22nd or the 24th.