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post #21 of 28
In addition to what you are doing to protect your daughter I just wanted to add, if you haven't already, help your daughter learn how to not be a victim. I know that sounds harsh and in no way is there any blame to be placed on the victims of bullies. But, a fact of life is that bullies will gravitate to those that don't know how to react to bullying.

I so remember being bullied as a child. I also remember my mom telling me that because I cried and ran home that the bully had gotten the reaction he was looking for and he would keep doing it. She told me to either not react in front of him (I could cry when I was home if I needed to) or to make even funnier "jokes" then he was making. Well, after a few more days of tears I finally decided to try what she suggested and it worked. He left me alone after that to pick on others.

His bullying was relatively minor but because of my success at deflecting his "attention" I was able to handle tougher bullies as I grew up. Especially in high school (well, it was grades 6-12 altogether). There was a senior who felt the need to single me out and pick on me constantly (I was an 8th grader). Brave of her, wasn't it. Well, after a few weeks she finally gave up - but it had the potential to get worse because she was very confrontational, pushy, in your face kind of thing.

Because it has gotten physical and Violet seems unstable you need to step in. But, also help arm your daughter with ways to sidestep Violet's words and make the verbal attacks not sting as badly (as you know, you can't be there all the time and Violet may decide to give your daughter an even harder time because she can't get to her at home). I know Violet's words will still hurt your daughter's feelings but if she can learn to show strength (even if she isn't feeling it) or use humor then it will help end the bullying faster.

Remind your daughter you believe in her, that she is smarter than Violet and that she can come up with snappy responses. Eventually, when Violet learns that her bullying isn't working anymore she'll give up. Studies have shown bullies don't have self-esteem issues - their self-esteem is very high. Most are smart and the kids who are targeted need help to understand why they've been "chosen." I guess it's kind of an early lesson in "we teach others how to treat us." It's heartbreaking that it begins at such a young age.

I feel your pain - my 4 yo son has been bullied at school. It is so tough.

Hugs to you guys. You're doing the right thing!
post #22 of 28
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I feel your pain - my 4 yo son has been bullied at school. It is so tough.

Hugs to you guys. You're doing the right thing!
Thanks! And 4 yrs old? So little.

Violet & her mom both wrote me a note tonight. Her mom apologized, spoke w/ her dd, and agreed that giving the girls space for awhile is good. Then Violet wrote an apology letter to me & dd.

I'm really pleased to see this. I agree, too, that I need to give my dd words to deflect the bullying because Violet is not going to be the first kid that does this.

But what do I tell her? The bullying she gets is: You're not my friend, Mary and Sue don't want to be your friend anymore, I don't like you.
post #23 of 28
I agree with meeting your child at the bus stop when she gets home each day or I'd likely drive her to school myself. When my kids were in school they never rode a school bus and hopefully never will in the future. Bad things usually happen on or around a school bus since the kids are mixed ages.

There is really nothing you can do about this type of child, short of talking to their own parents about their behavior and that usually does no good and would likely make matters worse. The kids is probably the way she is due to her parents anyway. Sadly, there is probably nothing you can do about it.

I homeschool my kids now. My DD was in a kindergarten last year and I saw a lot of this type of stuff going on at that young age. It's sad. It's worse for girls too, especially as they get older. I saw it when my boys were younger too. They would have kids say they weren't their friends one day and then be their friends again a few days later. It hurt their feelings and they are the caring, friendly type so they were taken advantage of by the more outgoing and social kids.

Thankfully your DD is talking to you and keeping you informed. I'd feel bad if I thought this was going on and didn't even know about it.
post #24 of 28
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I so remember being bullied as a child. I also remember my mom telling me that because I cried and ran home that the bully had gotten the reaction he was looking for and he would keep doing it. She told me to either not react in front of him (I could cry when I was home if I needed to) or to make even funnier "jokes" then he was making. Well, after a few more days of tears I finally decided to try what she suggested and it worked. He left me alone after that to pick on others.
Yeah, it's mostly about a control issue. Plus the bullies that say things to kids about being friends one day and not being friends the next day are usually the outgoing type of kid who tends to talk a lot more and make friends easier than the kid they are bullying. If a child is naturally quiet then they are happy to have what friends they "already" have and it would hurt their feelings more to hear their friend say they don't want to be friends anymore so the other kid knows what they are doing.
post #25 of 28
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But what do I tell her? The bullying she gets is: You're not my friend, Mary and Sue don't want to be your friend anymore, I don't like you.
Off the top of my head something like "That's okay - I still want to be your friend" or "Thanks for the info but I'll let Mary and Sue tell me themselves. Now what should we play?"

There is probably some humor she could use that would cause both girls to laugh (not an ugly response disguised as humor). But, I'm not the funniest - if I think of something I'll come back and post it.

Most of the time just a simple response that throws the bully's words off track or that shows their words are not upsetting will work. And then when she can throw in a question, like "what do you want to play?" that shifts the moment away from bullying and into an activity. It says "this won't work on me so let's drop it and do something else." It gives the bully an opportunity to learn their behavior won't work and it allows them to save face by cooperating to find something else to do.

Try role playing with your daughter. Have her bully you so she can see what types of responses work and what won't work. Then, when she has an idea of what works reverse roles and let her practice using her new anti-bully language. Practicing will probably help a lot.
post #26 of 28
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Ok, good ideas. I'm not very skilled at thinking those sort of things up, so I appreciate the help!

We'll try some things out today after school.
post #27 of 28
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But what do I tell her? The bullying she gets is: You're not my friend, Mary and Sue don't want to be your friend anymore, I don't like you.
My DD is homeschooled and not used to being said these things on a daily basis, so she reacts very sensitively to them. The homeshooled kids we know don't seem to have the need to control someone half their age, perhaps it's cause they have enough control in their on lives.

The two kids we have a problem with have both been bullied in school themselves and have developed behavioural issues due to that. (And no, understanding them does not make it easier.) One of them DD doesn't like, cause she terrorizes her younger sister which is painful to watch. The other DD is actually friends with, so that hits a nerve.

What do I tell her? First I explained to her, that sometimes when people say 'I hate you' they mean 'I'm angry/annoyed/upset'. I try to move it away from the personal attack it comes across, and onto the other person's feeling. At the same time I encourage DD to use the second message when it applies to her.

With the 'I won't be your friend anymore' kid, I will (after reading all the helpful replies in this topic) encourage her to deal with the specific situation differently BEFORE it comes to the above statement. We'll see if that helps. Have not talked to the child about it yet, see if I can catch him when his not in a foul mood (which is usually on school days, poor kid.)

Thanks for all the constructive posts, it's helped me put another perspective on our (very different) situation!
post #28 of 28
As a kid, I was both the bully and the one being bullied.

I have to say that it does seem as though something extra is going on with this kid. If a parent had said anything at all to me about bullying their kid, I would have been so ashamed and embarrassed of myself.

My bullying was a cry out for attention (and control since I had none at my step-mom's home) and approval from adults was so important to me.
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