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What should I do(In Your non professional opinions)

post #1 of 22
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So I went to a Psychiatrist yesterday. He asked me what had led me to go. I told him I had asked for a referral from my family Dr in June after I had a miscarriage when I didn't feel like I was coping ell enough, and had followed up with the hospital beginning of October after CPS had come to my house after a report made by the police the night I was robbed that my house was a mess. He asked why my house was a mess. I explained partly because there was a lot going on at the time, I had been (physically) sick and had had some things going on but also just depressed. I said I felt I needed help and had asked for counseling. I said I couldn't cope well enough the whole summer, first the miscarriage, then issues with house guest, then visited my mom who is out of province undergoing chemo my house got trashed by house sitter not house sitting and had cats run away, then issues with brother and then being robbed while my family was home then there while my grandpa died, when I had never experienced that before.

He asked if I had been sleeping well. I said not at all since the robbery at least. I am afraid of someone breaking in again. He said "Oh you are paranoid then? I said no, It is not paranoid when It has really happened and could happen again. He said oh well no one gets robbed twice you are just paranoid.I said it has happened to me before
DO you hear voices too? I said no,
Do you think someone is following you since you are paranoid about being broken in again? I said no
DO you think someone is poisoning your food. I said no.
I said just depressed in general added to a really bad few months. He said

YOU HAVENT HAD A BAD FEW MONTHS. YOU ARE JUST A WEAK WOMAN. YOU CATASTROPHISE LITTLE EVENTS THAT MEAN NOTHING AND YOU NEED TO BE STRONGER FOR YOUR KIDS. THE PATIENT WHO COMES TO SEE ME FROM IRAQ WHOSE COUNTRY IS AT WAR WHOSE PARENTS ARE DEAD WHOSE HUSBAND GOT SHOT IN FRONT OF HER WHO IS FINE BUT NEEDS HEL SLEEPING, SHE HAS PROBLEMS. YOU ARE JUST A WEAK WOMAN WHO NEEDS TO BE STRONGER OR ELSE GET YOUR KIDS TAKEN AWAY.

Keeping in mind I was calm. clean body and clothes and not crying or anything while taking to him until he says this. Then I started crying a little. Seems like he had made up his mind before I even saw him. So then he prescribes me cipralex(he said an antidepressant) and seraquel which he said was a sleeping pil that would "cause excessive weight gain" I am over 200lbs. I do not need excessive weight gain. I looked it up online and seraquel can be used off label for sleeping since it had sedative properties but on line said it was an anti psychotic used for bipolar or schizophrenia. I have not been diagnosed with either of these things. I have in the past seen a psychologist for over 10 years and a psychiatrist for several years and have been diagnosed with ptsd from sexual abuse and major depression.
I also saw both medications are not considered safe while pregnant (due to not being bale to take birth control I choose no to take anyhting that can be teratogenic, or harmful not sure if I am or not haven't tested and am not in a position to be right now but....)

I am pissed. I want to talk to another DR, but before I do....does what he said make sense? And with the meds..I may need meds. But telling me the one was a sleeping pill that would make me gain weight, makes no sense to me, I want to complain tgo someone about what he said but maybe he is right?
post #2 of 22
WTF? A therapist said that to you?!? Run away.

I have no idea on the meds, I suppose he meant that weight gain was a possible side effect. Regardless, find a new therapist right away. What a UA violation.: I'm sorry you were treated like that.
post #3 of 22
First, the doctor is NOT right!!! You are NOT a weak woman! You found the strength to attend therapy and seek help for some serious issues that you are facing at this time. I would recommend you do make another appointment with a different therapist. Perhaps you should consult with your family doctor about this?

Is he a registered therapist? I would seriously consider reporting him to his regulatory body.

Again, you are NOT a weak woman!
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
I assume he is registered. He is a psychiatrist working at the local hospital. And it is where I keep having doubts....if his job is to treat people maybe its just a way of having me deal woth my depression? Which is why i am asking here. I value the opinion of the people here on MDC greatly, and have limited real life people to sound off if what he said/did sounds right.
post #5 of 22
I'd go see a phychologist rather than a physciatrist. Then they can't push meds on you.
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
Unfortunately the hospital does not have psychologists on staff anymore after budget cuts, and I am not in a financial position to be paying a private one

The meds are one problem I had with the session, the class of them, the indications for use and him saying one was for sleep when it is not, exactly. But the other issue i had was the things he said.
post #7 of 22
That is WRONG. He needs to be revoked.
post #8 of 22
Do you still want meds? If so, try another psychiatrist or your primary care physician. There are some meds that are safe for pregnancy, and its unlikely that you'll get another quack.

Seroquel is regularly used off label for sleep issues, so he probably wasn't thinking you were psychotic and prescribing behind your back. Its not the right med for you or for pregnancy, though, and borders on medical incompetence. It can be prescribed during pregnancy when a woman is psychotic and no other anti-psychotics are working, so its not completely unheard of to give to a pregnant woman.

Duxylamine Succinate is an over the counter antihistamine/mild sleep agent that I used during my pregnancy because it also helps with nausea. Its supposed to be safe during pregnancy, if you want to try a mild sleep med. Its also regular strength Unisom (not the maximum strength which is something else).

I definitely think you would enjoy getting support from a counselor or psychologist in addition to or instead of meds. You sure have been through a lot. Anyone going through that much stuff would need, and deserve, some extra support.
post #9 of 22
There are a few things I think you should do:

1) File an official complaint for that psychiatrist- calling you "a weak woman" is completely unprofessional, as was the whole implication that your problems are insignificant just because others have bigger problems. Your problems are real to you, and any mental health professional should understand that.

2) Find a therapist- psychiatrists generally prescribe meds, rather than offering therapy. Therapists (who can be social workers or psychologists) generall refer you to psychiatrists if needed. Are there any other local mental health clinics in your area, other than this particular hospital? Does this hospital have social workers or nurses who work as therapists? Even a "non professional" support group for parents who have lost babies would be a huge help you you right now, although that should ideally be a supplement to individual counseling rather than a substitute.

3) Find a new MD (psychiatrist or maybe your PCP) to prescribe meds if you feel that you truly need meds right now.
post #10 of 22
most medical plans, if you have one, would rather pay less to have you see a psychologist or a social worker, it cost about half as much so if you do have insurance check into it. If you don't you can go to a community run non profit mental health clinic, although the wait is long. I also endorse the support group thing. If a Dr. tells you you are a weak woman he should have his license revoked, no other answer for that one.
post #11 of 22
You are not weak and he is an ass for saying that. I took Seroquel two years ago after a car accident because I could not sleep after the accident. I only took it for a few months. I would try to get in to see another doc.
post #12 of 22
- what he said was completely unprofessional. Right now in my life I'm in the worst state of mind (anxiety and stress) that I've ever been, HOWEVER, no one will convince me that I'm WEAK!! That's ludicrous. Mental health issues are REAL and need to be dealt with as such. Why in the world a psychiatrist would tell someone they're weak is beyond me.

I am so very sorry you are going through this and hope you can find someone who is more professional.

You are in Canada, right? Do you have access to Naturopathic doctors? If so, that might be a possibility for a more natural approach to treatment. If you are interested in more specifics pm me. I have some connections with ND schools in Canada. Good luck to you mama - I truly know how hard mental health issues can be
post #13 of 22
Holy crap! I can't believe what a UAV that guy was. You have to report him!
Im sorry you keep having such lousy run-ins with people.
post #14 of 22
That "professional" wasn't. I think you may be right with your guess about him taking some angle...saying that to try to manipulate you into looking at your situation a different way. It is highly inappropriate to do it the way you described, though. It doesn't have to be an attack. He might better have pointed out to you that you have managed to make it through some difficult circumstances, and that you have more strength than you give yourself credit for. Maybe one way to show him he's wrong about your being weak is to speak up to his licensing board...just to let yourself have a voice about how this idiot made you feel. Use it to make you stronger. He is small minded and had no right to discount you that way.

P.S.- A good therapist (professional counselor or clinical social worker) will help you build yourself up and learn new ways to cope. Mental health help should not hurt your feelings or your pride.
post #15 of 22
Ohmygosh!!! What an ASSS!!!! No, ignore everything he said, wait on the meds, and start over. (I gained about 15 lbs on Seroquel over 2 years on a very high dose by the way, so that was a shitty thing to say) Can you say power trip/burned out???

I'm so sorry your seeking help resulted in such a disaster. You have been through a hell of a lot! I think it would be very normal to be depressed, scared, overwhelmed, traumatized and grieving, all at once. I didn't read the other responses, but I would look for a T who specializes in trauma recovery/ptsd, and perhaps find a sensitive doc that way?

post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by canadiannancy View Post
YOU HAVENT HAD A BAD FEW MONTHS. YOU ARE JUST A WEAK WOMAN. YOU CATASTROPHISE LITTLE EVENTS THAT MEAN NOTHING AND YOU NEED TO BE STRONGER FOR YOUR KIDS. THE PATIENT WHO COMES TO SEE ME FROM IRAQ WHOSE COUNTRY IS AT WAR WHOSE PARENTS ARE DEAD WHOSE HUSBAND GOT SHOT IN FRONT OF HER WHO IS FINE BUT NEEDS HEL SLEEPING, SHE HAS PROBLEMS. YOU ARE JUST A WEAK WOMAN WHO NEEDS TO BE STRONGER OR ELSE GET YOUR KIDS TAKEN AWAY.


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Originally Posted by canadiannancy
I looked it up online and seraquel can be used off label for sleeping since it had sedative properties but on line said it was an anti psychotic used for bipolar or schizophrenia. I have not been diagnosed with either of these things.
I am just stunned. This is so wrong on so many levels. I agree with everyone else. Run away from this guy. And you are NOT a weak woman for needing help.
post #17 of 22
Hi
I just love the fact that since you were so blown away by his incompetance, and you didn't take everything he said as a given, it proves that you are indeed NOT weak in any way! I love the irony!!! Run while you can and just be glad you are strong enough not to have fallen for that crap!
You will be alright. You just need to find the right professional to help you through this touch spell. Good luck and
post #18 of 22
..sorry .... typo. meant to say "tough" spell
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Not sure if i updated. I made a complaint with the hospital about his comments. I also informed the CPS worker about everything that happened and she said I absolutely did not have to go back to him, in fact she reccomened a therapist who would work with me. Now I just have to solve the problem of no child care for appointments and I should be set. I have had therapists before, I had seen 2 psychiatrists and several psychologists before but never had an experience quite like this one.
post #20 of 22
I'm glad you're getting help and didn't take this guys' comments to heart!
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