Bird Flu Vax Hoax

[Jungle Mama]

I've done a lot of research on the bird flu today and I want to share some of the really important things to know.

1. Bird flu is not a big threat to humans. 250 deaths out of 6 billion people in the world is a small percentage. Bird flu is for birds like parvo virus is for dogs. It only mutates to humans where there is an overpopulation, toxic chemicals, and stress to inhibit the immune system. (This is what happened to WWI troops at bases in Spain who were all given the smallpox vax, crowded, and exposed to toxic gases, causing the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic).

2. The bird flu vaccine is not safe at all, and was made without being tested! It has thimerosal (mercury) and formaldehyde and chicken eggs in it.

http://www.fda.gov/Cber/label/h5n1san041707LB.pdf

"Nov., 2007 Leavitt and the Health and Human Services (HHS) ordered 100 million H5N1 vaccines from the Rockafeller funded Sanofi-Pasteur. Expected delivery date August, 2008. Sanofi-Pasteur issues a press release announcing the contract (100 million vaccines X $15 USD) and declares that the cell based vaccine will be mass produced in the company's China facility - then shipped to Stillwater, PA for syringe-friendly packaging. All of this done WITHOUT HUMAN OR ANIMAL TESTING!

Jan, 2008, Covert 'human trials' of Sanofi-Pasteur H5N1 vaccines are conducted on 350 homeless vagrants in Poland. According to a London Telegraph article, this results in 21 immediate deaths (in subjects 18-30 yrs of age) and over 200 severely incapacitated or hospitalized showing that the 'vaccine' is indeed DEADLY. This doesn't stop the HHS from stockpiling the vaccine."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...in-Poland.html
The homeless people that the vax was tested on were told that it was a flu shot, not the bird flu shot.

3. Natural remedies are more effective and safer! The herb lomatium, colloidal silver, and essential oils are much more effective and safer than the vax. The people who ate the lomatium root survived the spanish flu.

4. They are starting to give this vax, which could cause people to get bird flu, and cause the pandemic it is claimed to prevent.

Pre-pandemic vaxing is already starting in the UK. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7659113.stm

They want to test it on American children:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0117084226.htm
“There is concern these new strains could cause a pandemic, but they are not infecting people in the United States at this time. Rather than wait for that possibility to occur, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) is testing avian influenza vaccines.”
"One hundred twenty children will be vaccinated nationwide. Researchers in St. Louis are looking for healthy children ages 2 to 9 to participate in this study."

For more info:
Here's a very informative Avian Flu News site:
http://www.dgroups.org/groups/worldb...er_15_2008.pdf

Here's an informative video about the bird flu hoax, it's 2 hours and is boring and dry, but extremely informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLT0_...ad.php?t=39426

[Gitti]

Thanks!

[Jungle Mama]

Here's more info on how the spanish flu pandemic was caused by vaccines, including the stories from survivors who did not get the shots.

http://www.*********/v/spanish_flu.html

http://www.*********/vaccine/sf1.html

http://www.*********/b/makow54.html

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer...y265526733.asp

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/spanish_flu.htm

First they shot up the troops who got sick and died, then they scared the American public to all get the shots to avoid the troops bringing the diseases back, which led to the deaths of over 40 million people. People who simply did not get the shots survived! This was like the black plague of America, but it was caused by the people who got rich from the war and the vaccines...the Rockafellers and Rothschilds.

[Gitti]

Someone wrote a book about a small pox hospital where the same held true. Those who were vaccinated fully died, those who only received 2 vax had many die....etc. to all the ones who had received no vaccine, had the worst cases of small pox but all survived.

[Jungle Mama]

Thanks, I'd like to know the name of her book, I couldn't find it googling.

The videos at the end of my first post said that the bird flu vax is made from a frozen spanish flu virus. I just found fox news say it:

The bird flu vax is made from frozen spanish flu virus!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171329,00.html
Scientists: 1918 Killer Spanish Flu Was a Bird Flu

"Scientists who re-created the 1918 Spanish flu say the killer virus was initially a bird flu that learned to infect people. Alarmingly, they find that today's H5N1 bird flu is starting to learn the same tricks."

"...researchers used a technique called reverse genetics to re-create a living 1918 virus. To do this, they gathered viral DNA from the preserved tissues of people who died in 1918 and 1919 -- including a woman whose body was frozen in the Alaskan permafrost."

[ZoeyZoo]

Thank you for the summary... there is a lot of talk of the vax and an outbreak on tin-foily conspiracy theory websites. I had read that China had produced it but I didn't know they were starting to give them. Scary... I read on these sites that they were going to introduce them in the fall/winter this year... hope the rest of the story isn't true.

[Scattershoot]

They are not done with the bird flu. That's for sure. I don't doubt for one instant that they have millions of doses lined up, ready for the news to start spouting the fear. I just wonder if all the doctors and nurses will run away from this one as fast as they did the smallpox vaccine a few years back?

It's really scary how the pharmaceutical companies are doing their trials and manufacturing outside the U.S. now to avoid oversight (not that the oversight in the U.S. was all that good, but at least it was something). Just look at what China has brought us the past year that has caused horrific damage.

That article from the Telegraph is pretty much status quo now.

[T&D2005]

What the.....

Doesn't this make you want to find some unknown island and set up camp?

[Jungle Mama]

Here is a really good link about the bird flu and spanish flu:

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?p=742


I heard the Cook Islands were a good place to go! I also think South America, maybe Peru will be good, too. I would leave the US if I had the funds!

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by Jungle Mama

Thanks, I'd like to know the name of her book, I couldn't find it googling.

It's Vaccines: The Business Based On Fear by Dr.Buchwald



http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&...esult#PPA11,M1

[Twinklefae]

Ugh, they are doing testing on this here too. There are ads on the radio asking for volunteers. They will be 'compensated' for their time.

[Jungle Mama]

Video: H5N1 DNA in Flu Mist Vaccine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqe40-REclU

Flu Mist, a popular over the counter live flu vaccine, has been found to contain two H5N1 DNA markers, these markers seem to have been sewn into the flu mist vaccine to ensure that H5N1 or another strain of Avian Flu goes pandemic.

This is going to cause major problems before long, it is important that people are warned about flu mist.

[T&D2005]

I'm seriously disturbed by this info.. glad to find it but still disturbed. I bet this is where the "forced" vaccines come into play.
What kind of things can you take to help detox your body after a forced vax? How can you protect yourself from the flu mist? (we all have to go grocery shopping or the gas station or work so we will be exposed somehow).

[Jungle Mama]

I think keeping the immune system high is the best thing to do besides not getting vaxed. Oh, and don't worry, that lowers the immune system, too. Be aware and careful and spread the word.

Here's more info on the flu mist, it's a long article, but here's an important part:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/312/5772/380

One way to achieve this broad immunity is with a live attenuated vaccine, which consists of a virus that can still infect cells and thus should induce CTL responses. A live attenuated nasal vaccine made each year for annual flu, FluMist, has been on the market since 2003 in the United States. Manufacturer MedImmune says that it protects against mismatched strains. MedImmune and NIAID will soon begin clinical testing of FluMist versions for potential pandemic strains such as H5N1 and H9N2. The downside of live vaccines, however, is that there is a small risk that the virus could revert to a dangerous form, perhaps even creating a new pandemic strain.

[japonica]

MedImmune and NIAID will soon begin clinical testing of FluMist versions for potential pandemic strains such as H5N1 and H9N2. The downside of live vaccines, however, is that there is a small risk that the virus could revert to a dangerous form, perhaps even creating a new pandemic strain.

I guess they want to make sure that pandemic happens, one way or another. Rrrrrrr. Off to find that island...

[littlecindy]

i believe that elderberry is good for fighting type A flu...

[Gitti]

Elderberries and all other berries pretty much seem to be the ones to take if you think you are coming down with a cold or flu. Also keep plenty of SA on hand. I sincerely believe in that.

[Gitti]

In 1918-1919, the so-called Spanish flu killed some 50 million people -- including 675,000 Americans. Most of the victims were healthy people in the prime of life.

Plus they were vaccinated!


The Swine Flu was anther one. They sounded all sort of alarms and people ran to get vaccinated including the president (Nixon? which I seriously doubt!) and what happened? Nothing. The Swine Flu never materialised.

I am sure a lot of people got side effects from the vaccine, some may have had permanent damage, some may have died, but no Swine Flu came about.

The thing is to keep your cool. Let everyone vaccinated who wants to. There is no way to stop a madness that is generated from the highest powers. We just have to sit by and watch it all. But those who don't vaccinated, imo, have very little to fear. I believe this pandemic will be no different than any other pandemic. Lots of hype.

Trust your healing aids. We won't be going to any doctor or anywhere near any allopathic medicine. We will do what we always do and rely on our immune system. The only thing that could really hurt all of us is if at the same time they work to limint healthy and fresh foods. (Truckers strike, lack of oil/gasoline, road blocks...)

All flu is bird flu.

PubMed search - H5N1 DNA flumist resulted in 49 hits




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[Jungle Mama]

Good advice, mamas. Elderberry is really good for fever, cough, runny nose, etc. I think the non-vaxed people will be fine, just like with the spanish flu and swine flu. From what I read about the swine flu, they stopped the vax because people were dying and getting really sick after the vax.We don't really need to worry, but be aware and help others who are undecided find confirmation in the dangers of vaccines.

I do find it funny that the evil international bankers (Rockafeller and Rothschild) that fund the pharmas to do this vax poisoning called themselves pigs. I posted this on other boards, and pro-vaxers came back with "the cdc says the spanish flu was started by pigs", and I say, "I have to agree with them about that, lol!"

[Pariah]

What form do you all get elderberry in? Is it a syrup? I've heard of that, but I don't know if that is what you're referring to... And any recommended brands? I want to get together some of these items, just to have around for flu season and for anytime, really. One product I love is Buried Treasure Children's ACF (Acute Cold and Flu). It is herbs and colloidal silver. We got it in early September when DS caught a cold from his cousin, and the Buried Treasure stuff cleared him up almost entirely over night, and we didn't even get a full dose into him. They make an adult version, too, but the kid's stuff helped my 15 year old sister.