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would you give a probiotic that contains dairy to a baby with a family history of dairy intolerance?  

post #1 of 19
10/20/08 at 12:06am
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I ordered some of Natren's Life Start infant probiotic to give to my baby after he/she arrives, but didn't realize that it contained dairy. I actually wouldn't be too concerned if it just contained trace dairy, but it appears that the fillers in the product are actually powdered milk & whey. I'm debating about whether I should give this to the baby or not since both DD and I are dairy intolerant. Thoughts?
post #2 of 19
10/20/08 at 12:21am
Nope, I wouldn't do it.
post #3 of 19
10/20/08 at 12:27am
Me neither.
post #4 of 19
10/20/08 at 12:39am
There are a lot of ways to get probiotics. Baby will get them from you too. I'd up your sources of probiotics now, and ongoing. I'd master coconut water kefir, before baby. That is well tolerated by most folks.


Pat
post #5 of 19
10/20/08 at 12:48am
not on your life. FWIW Natren does make a dairy free....
post #6 of 19
10/20/08 at 12:56am
no way
post #7 of 19
10/20/08 at 1:01am
absolutely not. sorry.
post #8 of 19
10/20/08 at 1:42am
Another no.
post #9 of 19
10/20/08 at 9:25am
no here as well.
post #10 of 19
10/20/08 at 5:13pm
No way. I was actually looking at the probiotics that JaneS has in her siggy. They are human strain and do not contain many common allergens.
post #11 of 19
10/21/08 at 4:35pm
post #12 of 19
10/22/08 at 4:11am
do most probiotics contain milk? I just bought some for myself...
are these okay? i have some for my son and have been foregetting to get them for me (and DD BFING!)I just grabbed these--probably should have researched more:
nature's Way-Primadophilus Bifidus (enteric-coated)

ing: Potato starch, plant derived capsule, aqueous enteric-coating, magnesium stearate, absorbic acid. (what is all this? can someone explain?)


coconut water kefir--how do you make this? I thought the only Kefir there was was yogurt milk kind.

BTW I wouldn't take a probiotic with dairy for SURE!!!
post #13 of 19
10/22/08 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by LBMarie9 View Post
do most probiotics contain milk? I just bought some for myself...
are these okay? i have some for my son and have been foregetting to get them for me (and DD BFING!)I just grabbed these--probably should have researched more:
nature's Way-Primadophilus Bifidus (enteric-coated)

ing: Potato starch, plant derived capsule, aqueous enteric-coating, magnesium stearate, absorbic acid. (what is all this? can someone explain?)


coconut water kefir--how do you make this? I thought the only Kefir there was was yogurt milk kind.

BTW I wouldn't take a probiotic with dairy for SURE!!!
There's no dairy in the ingredients for that probiotic. If there's trace dairy from the manufacturing process it will say that on the label underneath the list of ingredients.

You can use either water or milk kefir grains or kefir starter powder to make coconut water kefir. You can make kefir from all sorts of things, like flavored water kefirs (lemonade kefir, that sort of thing) or coconut milk kefir.
post #14 of 19
10/22/08 at 2:16pm
LBMarie9- I just looked up that bottle, and it does say "May contain a minimal amount of milk or soy protein." so it was probably cultured on lactose.

It's almost impossible to find a dairy-free probiotic in stores. The only ones I have found (online) are Kirkman Labs and Klaire (we use Kirkman).
post #15 of 19
10/22/08 at 3:09pm
so us eliminating dairy is there a chance mt dd won't react through my milk or should I look for another probiotic?
post #16 of 19
10/22/08 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by LBMarie9 View Post
so us eliminating dairy is there a chance mt dd won't react through my milk or should I look for another probiotic?
I would look for another probiotic. Sorry.
post #17 of 19
10/22/08 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by LBMarie9 View Post
so us eliminating dairy is there a chance mt dd won't react through my milk or should I look for another probiotic?
You've got to be 100% or why bother? Find a new probiotic.
post #18 of 19
10/23/08 at 12:04am
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You've got to be 100% or why bother? Find a new probiotic.
I just don't agree with this. If it were true, since there are "possibilities" of casein cross-contamination in many things, moms might as well just drink milk all day long, if quantity of exposure were irrelevant. From my understanding all inflamatory processes are cumulative, which means than repeated exposures, or large frequent exposures are more relevant than occasional exposures or small exposures. That is the basis of rotation diets and allergy shots, even.

Definitely drinking a big glass of milk is different to the gut than a bit of casein in a probiotic. Additionally, many whole food probiotics have prebiotics and enzymes to predigest the proteins and diminish the allergen exposure. So, if you are getting benefit from the probiotic at 6x and "detriment" from the casein at 1x, you still net benefit. Additionally, all casein is not the same. Specifically, there are A1 and A2 casein, which each have different allergen potential for most folks.

And lactose intolerance is a totally different issue. One can be lactose intolerant and be fine with the casein exposure. Or casein intolerant and fine with lactose exposure.


Pat
post #19 of 19
10/23/08 at 12:18am
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post
I just don't agree with this. If it were true, since there are "possibilities" of casein cross-contamination in many things, moms might as well just drink milk all day long, if quantity of exposure were irrelevant. From my understanding all inflamatory processes are cumulative, which means than repeated exposures, or large frequent exposures are more relevant than occasional exposures or small exposures. That is the basis of rotation diets and allergy shots, even.

Definitely drinking a big glass of milk is different to the gut than a bit of casein in a probiotic. Additionally, many whole food probiotics have prebiotics and enzymes to predigest the proteins and diminish the allergen exposure. So, if you are getting benefit from the probiotic at 6x and "detriment" from the casein at 1x, you still net benefit. Additionally, all casein is not the same. Specifically, there are A1 and A2 casein, which each have different allergen potential for most folks.

And lactose intolerance is a totally different issue. One can be lactose intolerant and be fine with the casein exposure. Or casein intolerant and fine with lactose exposure.


Pat
For mamas who are PRAYING their children outgrow their sensitivities it is absolute sabotage to purposely give or consume yourself something that is known to have a "bad" ingredient. I totally understand the difference between lactose and casein - all us dairy allergy mamas do - but dairy is dairy and when you're trying to cut it all out it is just silly to use a product with lactose when there are wonderful products without it. JM2C.
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