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post #1 of 18
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That in the 'old days' before the vaccine, being exposed to chicken pox gave us all a 'natural booster' so that we were protected from shingles? And now that we won't be exposed like we used to be, that shingles will be on the rise?

I don't remember where I read this and am just wondering if this is accurate or please correct me. THanks!
post #2 of 18
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Originally Posted by JavaFinch View Post
That in the 'old days' before the vaccine, being exposed to chicken pox gave us all a 'natural booster' so that we were protected from shingles? And now that we won't be exposed like we used to be, that shingles will be on the rise?

I don't remember where I read this and am just wondering if this is accurate or please correct me. THanks!

Maybe I'm missing something, but I agree.
post #3 of 18
yes, that is how it works--

here is an article explaining why CP works that way:
http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/...-sure-why-not/
post #4 of 18
I had chicken pox as a baby and was never vaccinated. In college, my friend got chicken pox and I was exposed and developed a very mild case of shingles, just a small patch on the back of my neck. I was a heavy smoker at the time and underweight, so I'm sure it had more to do with my being immunocompromised. To my knowledge, people who have had chicken pox only develop shingles if their immune system isn't doing so well. This is why shingles is so common among the elderly.

Even the small patch of shingles I had back then was awful. I can't imagine having a severe case. If there's any reason to suspect that the vaccine makes you more prone to shingles in the long run, I'd avoid it like the plague.
post #5 of 18
yep pretty much. You can't catch shingles from chicken pox because shingles is the chicken pox virus that is already in your body lying dormant. So if you've never had chicken pox or the vax you can't get shingles. However if you have shingles you can give someone who is not immune chicken pox. Clear as mud right? lol.

Shingles is awful. I had a nasty case of them when I was 7 mos pregnant with my dd. I'll tell you, the only thing worse than having shingles is not being able to take the full doses of super strong pain killers (I still took half doses of vicodin regardless of being pregnant, it was the only way to function).

They really don't know yet though why shingles occurs. They have theories, especially since the large majority of people who get shingles are over age 60. There's not anything conclusive by a long shot. So while I agree with the theory of the chicken pox vaccine possibly causing more shingles cases...I think we need to remember it is still a theory.
post #6 of 18
I've been informed that much of the misery of shingles can be relieved by the application of undiluted apple cider vinegar. White vinegar may also work and doesn't smell as funny.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by peainthepod View Post
I had chicken pox as a baby and was never vaccinated. In college, my friend got chicken pox and I was exposed and developed a very mild case of shingles, just a small patch on the back of my neck. I was a heavy smoker at the time and underweight, so I'm sure it had more to do with my being immunocompromised. To my knowledge, people who have had chicken pox only develop shingles if their immune system isn't doing so well. This is why shingles is so common among the elderly.
Agreed, and otherwise, those with healthy immune systems have a reproduction of antibodies with every subsequent exposure to CP (ie when kids get them). Like me, when DH got CP this summer (and I didn't get anything).
post #8 of 18
In case this hasn't been said already... It's my understanding that if we have had chicken pox in our life that we need to get re-exposed to it throughout our life to maintain the immunity... I had heard that with most children getting vaccinated that we are no longer exposed to the chicken pox virus... it's not around as much... So the conclusion was that there will be even MORE cases of shingles in the future..........


Of course I don't recall the scientific facts behind that... but that is the gist of what I remember hearing.
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
I've been informed that much of the misery of shingles can be relieved by the application of undiluted apple cider vinegar. White vinegar may also work and doesn't smell as funny.
I used that when I had shingles. Although definitely DILUTE it! It burns even when put on with it diluted, I can't imagine how awful it would have felt undiluted. It burned really badly when I put it on for like 2-3 minutes, then it would give me relief for maybe 30 minutes. It was really only relief from the itchy hurt of my skin, not to the actual pain over all. It did give me enough time to try and hurry up and get to sleep before I was too itchy & in pain to sleep though.
post #10 of 18
I don't think anyone knows for sure because the long term effects of the chicken pox vaccine are still unknown. Right now the theory is that when you get chicken pox, the virus lies dormant in your body and is "kept at bay" by repeated exposure to the chicken pox virus in the environment. If we are not frequently exposed to it, our bodies won't be creating antibodies against it, and the shingles virus could re-emerge, making us sick. However, there is a theory that children with the chicken pox vaccine who don't get the chicken pox may also be at higher risk for shingles because like the person who has had chicken pox, they will still have some of the virus living in their system without the natural immune boosters in the environment. So the getting or not getting of the vaccine may not make a difference one way or another in one's likelihood of getting shingles (unless your child doesn't get the vaccine or CP- then he'd just be at higher risk for cp as an adult?), because it has more to do with the fact that chicken pox just isn't around us anymore. BUT, at least we won't have to take as much time off from work to take care of our sick children!! :
post #11 of 18
Maybe we should all go to pox parties for ourselves not our little ones.
post #12 of 18
i believe the pox vaccine is not recommended in the UK like it is here for this very reason. and shingles is up here in the states.
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
I've been informed that much of the misery of shingles can be relieved by the application of undiluted apple cider vinegar. White vinegar may also work and doesn't smell as funny.
Does this work on CP?
post #14 of 18
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Does this work on CP?
Yes, but *warning* it does sting on application. I used apple cider vinegar on my kiddos pox, it helped a lot with the itching.
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by MadameXCupcake View Post
Maybe we should all go to pox parties for ourselves not our little ones.

By exposing your LO you are being exposed. That's the beauty of it.

Shingles used to be a problem for some older people. Since the cp vax it is more and more common in little kids. Sad!
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post #17 of 18
I was shocked to recently find out there is a shingles vax now!!
post #18 of 18
I was trying to find recent #s on deaths related to CP and found this article: http://www.prleap.com/pr/13991/ and remembered this thread.

I don't know who the guy is but the article is pretty good.
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