Kudos for rotavirus vaccine

[mama1803]

Is anyone else getting really sick and tired of hearing about how great vaccines are???


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/...dhood_vaccines

[Gitti]

That is total nonsense! They brought that vaccine on the market for kids in Africa who are sick and dying and they wanted to suck the very last dime out of the parents imo.

The parents in Africa would not accept it because the Western world did not use it. They were sceptical that we put birth control into it.

That is the reason why it was even put on the market in our country.

No other reason.

The first time around it killed kids that would have never died from a little tummy bug. Now they brought it back. New and improved! I bet.

[T&D2005]

What?! Birth control in it? Seriously?

[Gitti]

Yep! That wouldn't have been the first time. There is a precedence to that.

[Gitti]

http://www.thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/...._Control.html


The same companies that make other vaccines also work on birth control vaccines. They could (accidentally) mix them together, no?

http://www.gfmer.ch/Books/Reproducti..._vaccines.html

http://www.ewtn.com/library/Issues/STEALTH.TXT

[Shell_Ell]

Marilynn Marchione sounds very familiar... I can't put my finger on it, but I think she's written pro-vax stuff in the past.

[T&D2005]

Originally Posted by Gitti

http://www.thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/...._Control.html


The same companies that make other vaccines also work on birth control vaccines. They could (accidentally) mix them together, no?

http://www.gfmer.ch/Books/Reproducti..._vaccines.html

http://www.ewtn.com/library/Issues/STEALTH.TXT

WOW.. I mean, I'm not surprised that they could do that~ just in denial that they think of EVERYTHING. Sometimes I wonder if vax are related to the extreme number of fertility issues these days

[Full Heart]

Scientists have been retooling Prevnar, which came on the market in 2000 and is advised for children under age 2. It protects against the seven strains of Strep bacteria that were causing the most serious infections at the time. Since then, new strains have become more of a threat and increasingly are resistant to common antibiotics.

I love how they mention that there are more serious strains of Step now but of course thats not linked to the vaccine no no no...the vaccine just wasn't made IN TIME.

but whether it makes it onto the market before dangerous strains become a big problem remains to be seen.

Further you know how many people I know who have had to deal with Rotavirus in the last 2 years that weren't hospitalized. I had no idea what it was before 2 years ago and now suddenly every one has it.

Is this the same vaccine that was out like 10 years ago that they recalled because it caused severe constipation in children?

[Turquesa]

Another study, by Merck, found a 100 percent drop in hospitalizations and ER visits during the 2007 and 2008 rotavirus seasons compared to previous ones. The study was based on a review of health insurance claims for about 61,000 infants and diagnoses by doctors in routine clinical practice.

Am I the only one around here who's sick to death of all of the corporate-sponsored research out there? Am I the only one (apart from MDC'ers) who sees through it??

This article has Offit's name written all over it. He's been making the rounds a lot with his press releases/advertisements these days . . .

[MadameXCupcake]

Originally Posted by Full Heart

Further you know how many people I know who have had to deal with Rotavirus in the last 2 years that weren't hospitalized. I had no idea what it was before 2 years ago and now suddenly every one has it.

Just wanted to say it can sometimes be serious, I had rota around 4? years old[Very young but old enough to remember] I was very sick and hospitalized for about a week. My sister got it though and she was fine.

My mom said it was horrible and scary, I had to have IV's and things all week.

My daughter won't get the vax though.

[honeybunch2k8]

Originally Posted by T&D2005

WOW.. I mean, I'm not surprised that they could do that~ just in denial that they think of EVERYTHING. Sometimes I wonder if vax are related to the extreme number of fertility issues these days

I wonder about that,too. I bet just about everyone either knows of someone who had fertility issues or has experienced them first hand. I go into both categories. That's why I'm not getting any more fillings and I want to take the amalgams out of my mouth.

I think it's scary how much trust is in medicine. I mean, it can be life saving but a lot of times they just seem to be experimenting on us and using things they know are not safe.

Vaccine agenda

[Mama~Love]

YAY for the Big Pharma!!

















NOT!!!

[Full Heart]

Originally Posted by MadameXCupcake

Just wanted to say it can sometimes be serious, I had rota around 4? years old[Very young but old enough to remember] I was very sick and hospitalized for about a week. My sister got it though and she was fine.

My mom said it was horrible and scary, I had to have IV's and things all week.

My daughter won't get the vax though.

I didn't say it wasn't serious, I said its way more common now than it was a few years ago.

I had to have IVs and was hospitalized for a week when I was 18 mos old for something similar.

[In Exile]

Funny, how you find articles on HOW GREAT Rotateq is supposed to work-gotta say something good about the stuff before you throw the next version out there. Of course it has to be great.

Nobody seemed to be worried about Rota 5 or 6 years ago and now it's it right up there with latest killer of infants:chickenpox...not to belittle anyone who had suffer through Rota-but I always find it strange how with the introduction of a new vaccine all of a sudden half the population was just about dying from whatever disease it is- according to the CDC.

The article failed to mention the withdrawal of the earlier version of Rotateq that not only killed babies but had severe adverse reactions-it sounds like the the Gardasil Story now. Not tested, somehow the FDA approved-and they really test it out on the broad public.

What really blew me away 2 years ago: My Pediatrician did not like Rotateq and told me so-BEFORE he even knew we would not vax. This is a regular MD, a Pediatrician who was sceptical of it.

[pantufla]

Reduces ER visits due to rotavirus by 100%? How is that even possible? So, no kids went to the ER and were diagnosed with rotavirus? What, they were diagnosed with "stomach flu" instead? I'm not very good at math, but 100% reduction doesn't sound right to me.

[just_lily]

Originally Posted by Full Heart

I love how they mention that there are more serious strains of Step now but of course thats not linked to the vaccine no no no...the vaccine just wasn't made IN TIME.

I was going to quote that same passage, but you beat me to it.

My biggest annoyance with Rotateq is the same problem I have with Guardasil. The manufacturers are advertising it CONSTANTLY. I can't turn on the tv or read a magazine without seeing an ad. I don't think it is right that a manufacturer is allowed to try to create demand for a vaccine based on advertising.

I live in Canada, and for a long time advertising for prescription medications wasn't allowed. I think that was a good thing. People shouldn't be diagnosing themselves using television commercials, and then going into their doctor's office and demanding the newest drug. But now they are allowed, and we get all the "Viagra - talk to your doctor!" ads as well. The vaccine ads are just as bad, if not worse.

[tayndrewsmama]

I am sensing a boiling-point coming soon with vaccines. I have a sick feeling that many will be harmed or killed during this time as well.

[Tari Mithrandir]

Rotateq gave my daughter 4 weeks of diarrhoea that has resulted in a recurring anal fissure that 5 months later they have had to give her a prescription cream to try to heal (nothing else was working ). Of course... they say it was coincidence that she got the runs within hours of the shot and it lasted that long... No way it was the vaccine, even though there was no other reason for my BF baby to get runs. :

[St. Margaret]

I appreciate the mamas who keep speaking up with their kids' bad reactions to this and other shots-- it is a good reminder of the harmfulness of these vaxes!

I saw this article and it made me sick. Just the article! There are so many other things parents could do to make their kids healthier before resorting to this vax. I feel so sorry for the babies out there being pumped full of just garbage ,garbage, garbage in different forms. Blah!

[Bow]

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...12&newsLang=en

This is a non-randomized, claims-based observational study. In the study, the diagnosis of rotavirus did not include laboratory confirmation and was only based on the use of physician diagnosis

and

The data showed that ROTATEQ reduced the combined incidence of hospitalizations and ER visits related to rotavirus gastroenteritis by 100 percent (0.0 vs. 3.7 events per 1,000 patient-years, 95 percent CI 86 -100), with hospitalizations reduced by 100 percent (0.0 vs. 3.5 hospitalizations per 1,000 patient-years, 95 percent CI 85 - 100) and ER visits by 100 percent (0.0 vs. 0.2 ER visits per 1,000 patient-years, 95 percent CI <0 -100).

more reading

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm57e625a1.htm

Delayed Onset and Diminished Magnitude of Rotavirus Activity --- United States, November 2007--May 2008

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/16/1747