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A question about WIC and tetnus

post #1 of 52
10/27/08 at 8:38am
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So, when you go get reevaluated(spelling?) they prick your finger & check your blood iron level.It never bothered me while we were vaxing,but now that we're not, I'm concerned about tetnus.Is it likely that tetnus woud result??

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post #2 of 52
10/27/08 at 9:44am
No, they are causing you to bleed for a sample. Tetanus doesn't thrive in a bleeding wound.
post #3 of 52
10/27/08 at 12:13pm
I'd be more worried about MRSA than tetanus.

I'm pretty sure you can refuse the testing, though.
post #4 of 52
10/28/08 at 2:07pm
We refuse "for religious reasons". WIC is mandated to offer the screening but being a federal program they are not allowed to discrimate based on religious beliefs. We typed up our own waiver and they have copies for each child on file..we have used multiple WIC locations over the years and have only had minimal hassles. Know your rights and stand firm.
post #5 of 52
10/28/08 at 3:57pm
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I've used a religious exemption for vaxes, and I can honestly say, I am opposed to them on a religious level.
But how could you justify a religious exemption for testing blood for iron?
It never crossed my mind to opt out due to religion for that too...
I'm just curious, How could you explain to someone, I know its really none of their business, and the law still applies even if you dont belong to a church or group that supports that idea.
But I just like to have bullets to load up with, just in case
post #6 of 52
10/28/08 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by 3lilpunkins View Post
I've used a religious exemption for vaxes, and I can honestly say, I am opposed to them on a religious level.
But how could you justify a religious exemption for testing blood for iron?
It never crossed my mind to opt out due to religion for that too...
I'm just curious, How could you explain to someone, I know its really none of their business, and the law still applies even if you dont belong to a church or group that supports that idea.
But I just like to have bullets to load up with, just in case
Some people hold a religious belief that blood is sacred and that to spill it on purpose is inherently wrong. (That's way over simplifying, but that's the gist.)
post #7 of 52
10/28/08 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by 3lilpunkins View Post
So, when you go get reevaluated(spelling?) they prick your finger & check your blood iron level.It never bothered me while we were vaxing,but now that we're not, I'm concerned about tetanus.Is it likely that tetanus would result??
I have to ask you a serious question - why are you NOT vaxing against Tetanus, if you believe that it can be contracted by a simple sterile needle prick?

I have done the research on the disease, the causes, and the likelihood of contracting it in my day to day life, and combined with that information and the fact that I have a strong negative reaction to the vax, I have made the decision to no longer vaccinate myself against Tetanus. That being said, I would never advise someone to refuse vaccines unless they knew WHY they were refusing.
post #8 of 52
10/28/08 at 5:08pm
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Originally Posted by 3lilpunkins View Post
So, when you go get reevaluated(spelling?) they prick your finger & check your blood iron level.It never bothered me while we were vaxing,but now that we're not, I'm concerned about tetnus.Is it likely that tetnus woud result??
Is your WIC office in a barnyard? BEcause if not, no.
post #9 of 52
10/28/08 at 10:32pm
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Originally Posted by llamalluv View Post
I have to ask you a serious question - why are you NOT vaxing against Tetanus, if you believe that it can be contracted by a simple sterile needle prick?

I have done the research on the disease, the causes, and the likelihood of contracting it in my day to day life, and combined with that information and the fact that I have a strong negative reaction to the vax, I have made the decision to no longer vaccinate myself against Tetanus. That being said, I would never advise someone to refuse vaccines unless they knew WHY they were refusing.
I know the wound needs to bleed, I just get worried, purposely opening your skin and having a possibility of infection or tetnus.

I am not vaxing at all, not just not for tetnus. I believe we are created in the image of God, so needing foreign substances injected into our bodies, is basically saying God's design isn't good enough,therefore, it's insulting to Him.
Also, The body is the temple of God, so to pollute it, is defiling the temple of God.

I just got my first vax book, I'm slowly but surely getting into it. It covers how to properly care for VPDs.I just thought I'd ask, and get some opinions on tetnus.
post #10 of 52
10/29/08 at 12:08am
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Originally Posted by 3lilpunkins View Post
I know the wound needs to bleed, I just get worried, purposely opening your skin and having a possibility of infection or tetnus.

I am not vaxing at all, not just not for tetnus. I believe we are created in the image of God, so needing foreign substances injected into our bodies, is basically saying God's design isn't good enough,therefore, it's insulting to Him.
Also, The body is the temple of God, so to pollute it, is defiling the temple of God.

I just got my first vax book, I'm slowly but surely getting into it. It covers how to properly care for VPDs.I just thought I'd ask, and get some opinions on tetnus.
This is not meant to be snarky, but how exactly are you going to care for those VPDs without foreign substances? Is the difference between injecting and ingesting really that important? (food is a foreign substance)
post #11 of 52
10/29/08 at 2:10pm
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Well how else can anyone claim a religious exemption. Anyway, I try to use herbs and natural remedies, foreign yes, but toxic & polluting,no.
I mean, this is how I see it, It's good enough for the doctors.
Food, God intended for us to ingest. He designed food to sustain life. Vaccines are not the work of God. For if they were, they would be 100% effective, without containing aborted babies,monkey kidneys,heavy metals, and toxic chemicals.Did you know if you assign a multiple of 6 to every letter, (a=6,b=12,c=18,d=24.....) Apply that to the word "vaccination" add up all the numbers, the sum is 666. coinsidence?
Any way, I guess I should research my own questions instead of asking for opinions here. I thought this was a place where knowledge moms try to help each other out, not gang up on a newbie.
post #12 of 52
10/29/08 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by 3lilpunkins View Post
Apply that to the word "vaccination" add up all the numbers, the sum is 666. coinsidence?
Actually, yes. Yes it is.
post #13 of 52
10/29/08 at 2:21pm
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Any way, so far my book mostly is talking about good nutrtion, drinking plenty of water, getting lots of rest, keeping warm, and NOT medicating fevers. Now that I think about it, I don't recall her mentioning anything about giving them anything at all except TLC
post #14 of 52
10/29/08 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by 3lilpunkins View Post
I know the wound needs to bleed, I just get worried, purposely opening your skin and having a possibility of infection or tetnus.

I am not vaxing at all, not just not for tetnus. I believe we are created in the image of God, so needing foreign substances injected into our bodies, is basically saying God's design isn't good enough,therefore, it's insulting to Him.
Also, The body is the temple of God, so to pollute it, is defiling the temple of God.

I just got my first vax book, I'm slowly but surely getting into it. It covers how to properly care for VPDs.I just thought I'd ask, and get some opinions on tetnus.
Your child's skin gets opened on an almost daily basis. I know mine does. Falling and skinning her knee will open her up to infection. I think the risk is greater on a dirty sidewalk than with a sterile needle. Just my opinon, though.
post #15 of 52
10/29/08 at 2:59pm
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Actually, yes. Yes it is.
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post #16 of 52
10/29/08 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by Throkmorton View Post
Actually, yes. Yes it is.
May I humbly point out, not coincidence. It's math.
post #17 of 52
10/29/08 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by llamalluv View Post
May I humbly point out, not coincidence. It's math.
Right you are. Also "Jesus" adds up to 666 is you assign each letter a multiplier of 9. Ooooh, spooky.
post #18 of 52
10/29/08 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by 3lilpunkins View Post
Well how else can anyone claim a religious exemption. Anyway, I try to use herbs and natural remedies, foreign yes, but toxic & polluting,no.
I mean, this is how I see it, It's good enough for the doctors.
Food, God intended for us to ingest. He designed food to sustain life. Vaccines are not the work of God. For if they were, they would be 100% effective, without containing aborted babies,monkey kidneys,heavy metals, and toxic chemicals.Did you know if you assign a multiple of 6 to every letter, (a=6,b=12,c=18,d=24.....) Apply that to the word "vaccination" add up all the numbers, the sum is 666. coinsidence?
Any way, I guess I should research my own questions instead of asking for opinions here. I thought this was a place where knowledge moms try to help each other out, not gang up on a newbie.
I say this with all gentleness . . . . you realise that assigning a number that's a multiple of 6 will get you a result that's divisible by 6, right?
So, while most of the parents here do not vaccinate or selectively vaccinate our kids, it's not because we think it's a mark of an anti-Christ, or an alien plot, or a government conspiracy.
As far as the finger prick goes, as long as your WIC office is not using rusty needles dipped in horse manure the chances of contracting tetanus are slim to none.

Gently,
sophiekat
post #19 of 52
10/29/08 at 4:15pm
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I didnt say it was the mark of the beast or anything. I was merely pointing out something I found interesting.Which everyone who read that appartently missed my point and got side tracked by the #s.How is anyone supposed to claim a religious exemption, when everyones tears it up and disects it? you all say,"its none of their business what religion you are...", I thought you just said that b/c the laws do not descriminate by naming certain religions, I didn't realize it was b/c you are really not religiously opposed, but rather morally opposed.

I mean you could turn anyone's "religious views" around on them and say, well that's not really religious b/c....

If you're using a religious exemption, it's because it contradicts what you religiously believe.If I believe its a slap in God's face by injecting crap of all sorts into my child's body, then that's what I believe, and I can have a religious exemption, sorry if so many of you disagree.
post #20 of 52
10/29/08 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by 3lilpunkins View Post
Did you know if you assign a multiple of 6 to every letter, (a=6,b=12,c=18,d=24.....) Apply that to the word "vaccination" add up all the numbers, the sum is 666. coinsidence?
So, vaccination is only a risk in English speaking countries then?
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