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Birth Trauma Smilie

post #1 of 38
Thread Starter 
Just wondering if we could work on getting a birth trauma icon for us mamas trying to heal and trying to inform.
post #2 of 38
A lot of smilies that are added are created by members.

Do you have any ideas on a Birth Trauma smilie? How could that be represented?



A free image editing program is GIMP2 in case anyone got ambitious.
post #3 of 38
Thread Starter 
So we can just submit whatever? That's awesome! I will get to brainstorming and asking around. Thanks much!

(OT- DH wanted to name our boy Ezra... but we never did have one Great name!)
post #4 of 38
Is this supposed to be taken seriously? A TRAUMA smiley? Isn't that kind of minimizing something rather, well, traumatizing? It seems rather dismissive, not to mention something potentially hurtful.
post #5 of 38
A smilie is any of the little pictures you can insert. For instance, and : are still called smilies.
post #6 of 38
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Originally Posted by llamalluv View Post
Is this supposed to be taken seriously? A TRAUMA smiley? Isn't that kind of minimizing something rather, well, traumatizing? It seems rather dismissive, not to mention something potentially hurtful.
Why do you feel that way? Did she say she was going to make a crying vagina smilie or something?



We have emoticons that involve serious subjects. They can be done tastefully.
post #7 of 38
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Originally Posted by abimommy View Post
Why do you feel that way? Did she say she was going to make a crying vagina smilie or something?



We have emoticons that involve serious subjects. They can be done tastefully.
Well, a smiley, in my opinion, is something posted to add a light hearted touch or humor to a post. I don't think trauma should be treated so cavalierly.
post #8 of 38
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Originally Posted by notyetamommy View Post
A smilie is any of the little pictures you can insert. For instance, and : are still called smilies.
No. Not all of the pics you can insert are "smileys". The smileys are the ones with faces - like all the ones over to the left. There are other symbols that are not smileys.
post #9 of 38
Maybe a ribbon would be more appropriate. I can't really think how a smilie could really portray birth trauma.

ETA - I like the name Ezra too! It was on our list of boy names, but it doesn't look like we are going to get to use any of them.
post #10 of 38
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Well, a smiley, in my opinion, is something posted to add a light hearted touch or humor to a post. I don't think trauma should be treated so cavalierly.

I do not believe there is any indicator that there was such intentions.


Smilie is just a word indicating an image, it doesn't have to be lighthearted. We have images for losses, they don't seem cavalier to me.
post #11 of 38
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(OT- DH wanted to name our boy Ezra... but we never did have one Great name!)
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ETA - I like the name Ezra too! It was on our list of boy names, but it doesn't look like we are going to get to use any of them.


My boy has curly hair and our last name is Smith. We had to pick something a little bit interesting.
post #12 of 38
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No. Not all of the pics you can insert are "smileys". The smileys are the ones with faces - like all the ones over to the left. There are other symbols that are not smileys.
No they aren't. Smileys are simply the little images you see in posts. They can be faces but they can also be the ribbons or the little houses etc.

I'm sorry you took such offense but trust me I am not treating my trauma or anyone else's lightly, thanks.
post #13 of 38
As someone who suffered PTSD after her c-section I also find the idea of a birth trauma smilie sort of garrish and triggering. How would you represent that? Lots of images come to mind and they aren't very nice.
post #14 of 38
I would appreciate one. I don't see it as any different than the red ribbons and such in other signatures.
post #15 of 38
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As someone who suffered PTSD after her c-section I also find the idea of a birth trauma smilie sort of garrish and triggering. How would you represent that? Lots of images come to mind and they aren't very nice.
We are brainstorming over in the Healing Birth Trauma board (the "HBAT tribe" thread) but we are thinking along the lines of something more healing then violent, of course.

Come on over and see what we have so far and share your ideas.

ETA- to clarify for everyone the women who are brainstorming this also suffer from PTSD and other trauma related illnesses in regards to our births. We aren't going to do anything gruesome or garish. The smilie is to get the word out that birth trauma is very real and needs to be addressed in society and also to validate what we traumatized mother's have gone through and are going through.

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I don't see it as any different than the red ribbons and such in other signatures.
post #16 of 38
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As someone who suffered PTSD after her c-section I also find the idea of a birth trauma smilie sort of garrish and triggering. How would you represent that? Lots of images come to mind and they aren't very nice.
Exactly. Smileys are intended to be funny or irreverent or cute. I just can't reconcile the concept of a smiley with PTSD or and unwanted abdominal surgery or the death of a child or anything else that can go horribly wrong in a birth experience.

I mean, why not have a happy little murder smiley? Or a silly little rape smiley?

Ugh.
post #17 of 38
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No they aren't. Smileys are simply the little images you see in posts. They can be faces but they can also be the ribbons or the little houses etc.

I'm sorry you took such offense but trust me I am not treating my trauma or anyone else's lightly, thanks.
Maybe I make a distinction that you don't, but I consider SMILEYS to be faces and the other non-face things to be ICONS. So again, the idea of a trauma smiley is just too disrespectful for me.
post #18 of 38
I think a semantics issue is creating some totally unnecessary contention.

While wiki describes "smileys" as faces they do not limit that label to only faces that are actually smiling. And I've seen many people on MDC use the term "smiley" to describe any of the little images and emoticons that can be added to a post.

At any rate, I think the important thing to remember is that I'm pretty sure you all agree that the icon should be tasteful whether it's called a "smiley" or not.

That's my "you're ok, we're ok, let's hug" 2 cents.
post #19 of 38
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Originally Posted by llamalluv View Post
Exactly. Smileys are intended to be funny or irreverent or cute. I just can't reconcile the concept of a smiley with PTSD or and unwanted abdominal surgery or the death of a child or anything else that can go horribly wrong in a birth experience.

I mean, why not have a happy little murder smiley? Or a silly little rape smiley?

Ugh.
You are using a different defination of the word than everyone else on the thread.

I am not going to just dismiss something without even looking at it.

I didn't realize you have had a traumatic birth, other people who have also had one would like to see something representing them.

I understand it is upsetting to those who have had such experiences, my births were not picnics. Perhaps since this is so upsetting for you, you would like to join discussion regarding what the image should be?
post #20 of 38
maybe if we called them emoticons?
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