Disclipline the neighbors, or the child? - Page 2

[philomom]

Originally Posted by junipermuse

home childcare is by its very definition approved for residential areas. It's a daycare run out of someone's home and it has to be run out of a full time residence to even get licensed. Home daycare is a very important part of the overall childcare system. Running a daycare center not based in someone's home can be extremely difficult and expensive. If it's not funded with public money than the parents must pay high tuition to make it a profitable business. Suggesting the neighbors call the police, implying that the OP is somehow violating laws, and just demanding the OP to move her business is neither helpful or supportive and I found this whole post a tad on the rude side. While I agree that having a squawking child around for large amounts of time would be extremely annoying I don't see how this in anyway infringes on the neighbors rights of privacy. As to the right t peace and quiet, I'm afraid those are fairly minimal. There is probably an ordiance that sets a maximum in decibels for daytime noise (which the child probably isn't exceeding no matter how annoying the sound is) and also sets the time for quieter hours probably 9pm-7am or something like that and the child isn't at the OP's house during those hours anyway. So legally I don't think she has any responsibilities to these neighbors. That doesn't mean though that it isn't worth trying to find a compromise with them to preserve your relationship with them. I would definitely try to keep the doors closed when inside and go outside when I know the neighbors aren't home.

A forum, by its very nature is an exchange of thoughts and ideas. I gave mine. I would very upset if I lived next door to the noises described. I like peace and quiet. Pursuit of happiness for me involves being able to read quietly or sit quietly outdoors and listen to soft breezes, leaves rustling and the like.

[frontierpsych]

Originally Posted by philomom

A forum, by its very nature is an exchange of thoughts and ideas. I gave mine. I would very upset if I lived next door to the noises described. I like peace and quiet. Pursuit of happiness for me involves being able to read quietly or sit quietly outdoors and listen to soft breezes, leaves rustling and the like.

Ah, BUT that doesn't mean you necessarily have the RIGHT to these things.

If that were the case, one could argue that their pursuit of happiness involved having a mansion and a plasma TV. You don't always get what you want.

[PGTlatte]

If they were decent people, I would discuss with them and invite them to agree on times when you will contain this child (inside, doors shut) and times when your doors would be open.

But....if they KILLED MY TREE with pool acid, forget it, all bets are off. They can just suffer ! What goes around comes around ! :

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She does have therapy. Two mornings a week for a half hour each. So, on those days, she's only gone for an hour.

In July, she will go five half days. Not sure how that's going to work out, but her parents are very good about making sure it does.

She has some speech. But, she prefers yelling.

They came by last night (trick or treating) and "complimented" me on how I was keeping her quiet. *I haven't been, it's just been too hot to leave the doors open*

I decided.. I really don't like them. They killed my tree. They built a pool right next to our wall, and put the water slide up so that if their own kids are on the slide, they can look into our yard. I have always hated that.

The truth is, if either of my neighbors to the side of me complained, I would walk through fire to accomodate them. I think it's just THESE people.

This morning, their kids were out in the yard yelling and riding their toys at 7:00 a.m. So, that annoyed me too. I guess I am just going to have to do my best to make it work, and stop hating them, or It's never going to improve.

Oh, and their son reached in the candy bowl after I had already put candy in his bag and took another handful. I hope he sticks gum on their carpet.

[IdahoMom]

Originally Posted by nextcommercial

She does have therapy. Two mornings a week for a half hour each. So, on those days, she's only gone for an hour.

In July, she will go five half days. Not sure how that's going to work out, but her parents are very good about making sure it does.

She has some speech. But, she prefers yelling.

They came by last night (trick or treating) and "complimented" me on how I was keeping her quiet. *I haven't been, it's just been too hot to leave the doors open*

I decided.. I really don't like them. They killed my tree. They built a pool right next to our wall, and put the water slide up so that if their own kids are on the slide, they can look into our yard. I have always hated that.

The truth is, if either of my neighbors to the side of me complained, I would walk through fire to accomodate them. I think it's just THESE people.

This morning, their kids were out in the yard yelling and riding their toys at 7:00 a.m. So, that annoyed me too. I guess I am just going to have to do my best to make it work, and stop hating them, or It's never going to improve.

Oh, and their son reached in the candy bowl after I had already put candy in his bag and took another handful. I hope he sticks gum on their carpet.

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Originally Posted by philomom

A forum, by its very nature is an exchange of thoughts and ideas. I gave mine. I would very upset if I lived next door to the noises described. I like peace and quiet. Pursuit of happiness for me involves being able to read quietly or sit quietly outdoors and listen to soft breezes, leaves rustling and the like.

I agree. But, our homes are so close together, that no matter what we do, it can be heard for two blocks. The house to the east of me is litterally ten feet from my house.


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My house has the red X. This was before they put a pool in.

[Sailor]

Originally Posted by philomom

A forum, by its very nature is an exchange of thoughts and ideas. I gave mine. I would very upset if I lived next door to the noises described. I like peace and quiet. Pursuit of happiness for me involves being able to read quietly or sit quietly outdoors and listen to soft breezes, leaves rustling and the like.

I totally agree with you on this one.

I lived in an apartment for a long time, and my neighbor had small children above me. ALL day they would run, bang, scream, yell. It drove me bonkers - I worked from home too. I asked her many times to put carpets down or go to the park or do something - anything so I could have at least some quiet during the day. I didn't understand this at all, as I was raised in an apartment and, as a kid, understood the difference between "inside" play and "outside' play. So, I had to complain to the manager eventually, and only after that did things get better.

After that experience, I looked for a living situation in a complex that prided itself on quiet. Where I live now, if you have kids, you move in on a probationary period and if there are loud noises all day long, or all night - you can't stay. In home day cares are against the rules.

It's an intentional community - so no one is violating laws.

We soundproofed our master bedroom, actually, when we got complaints. I think this will help when we have a newborn too. I love living here because of the peace and quiet. So, I definitely don't want to bother my neighbors. Heck, I'll soundproof the whole house if I have to, lol.

Anyway ... I can understand being disturbed by noises. It's not pleasant. Especially if it's an everyday kind of thing. I lived through something like that!

However, I'm also a very considerate/respectful neighbor ... and it sounds like your neighbors expect consideration when they haven't given you any. So, I can also understand wanting a bit of revenge.

[bunnybartlett]

Originally Posted by llp34

If they were decent people, I would discuss with them and invite them to agree on times when you will contain this child (inside, doors shut) and times when your doors would be open.

But....if they KILLED MY TREE with pool acid, forget it, all bets are off. They can just suffer ! What goes around comes around ! :

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Gosh, it would be just awful if a helpful relative bought your children one of these and she accidentally got ahold of it.

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I bought one for my nephew and it mysteriously disappeared.

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Originally Posted by bigeyes

gosh, it would be just awful if a helpful relative bought your children one of these and she accidentally got ahold of it.

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i bought one for my nephew and it mysteriously disappeared.

lmao!!

[philomom]

Wow, your houses are close!

Let's hope they move away, hmm? Maybe all us MDC mamas can manifest them getting a cool job offer which will move them away from you.

I didn't mean to sound harsh but I have had my share of noisy neighbors. Now I live on a corner lot of a dead-end road and it is very peacefully quiet

[chirp]

COMPLETELY OT but...

AAARRGGGH, two of your neighbors already have pools. why don't people just share? doesn't anyone realize there's a water crisis!!!

sheesh. :

pools, basketball hoops, everyone's gotta have their own. it makes me sick.

[MrsAprilMay]

Originally Posted by llp34

If they were decent people, I would discuss with them and invite them to agree on times when you will contain this child (inside, doors shut) and times when your doors would be open.

But....if they KILLED MY TREE with pool acid, forget it, all bets are off. They can just suffer ! What goes around comes around ! :

In all seriousness, if they couldn't have the decency to talk to you about your tree before trying to kill it, they wouldn't be people I would bend over backwards to accommodate. And as annoying as it may be, this child has the right to live. And if she lives loudly then that's her right. It's not like you're taking her to the library and she's screaming.