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post #1 of 43
Thread Starter 
(X-posting question to Birth Professionals)

Ok, you probably get this a lot. I didn't want to add myself to the "could it be?" list, but I have a specific question about twin heartbeats and figured this was the best place to ask.

I'm 10w2d pg (very, very sure on dates) and because of various issues, I dropped my OB and am still trying to find a homebirth midwife. In the meantime (mostly because I had a lot of issues getting/staying pg. in the last year) I acquired a doppler, figuring if nothing else it might be handy if I end up needing to UP/UC. I used it yesterday afternoon, not really expecting to find anything this early. However, not only did I find a heartbeat, I think I found two.

My question is, if you had a doppler check early on, did they find both heartbeats? And if so, how far apart were they and what was the difference between the two? (The two I found were a bit over 5" apart along my bikini line, the one on the left averaging 118bpm, the one on the right closer to 133bpm. My own heart rate was around 67, so I know it wasn't picking up mine and throwing off the count.)

And assuming you're not annoyed at another "could it be twins?" question...if this *could* be twins, would it hurt either way if I start eating for it now? I've heard the protein requirements are quite a bit different than for a singleton pg...

Anyway, thanks in advance!
post #2 of 43
It was really hard for us to find my twins heartbeats because they were laying on top of each other, so it was not an indication for us. They consistantly stayed 10bpm apart throughout my pregnancy. Eventually they got into positions that made it easier to find them both and we could always tell who was where by the heart rate.

I don't think it would hurt you to up your protein and water intake just in case.
post #3 of 43
Ooh, how exciting! Can your midwife give you a referral to somewhere for an ultrasound, to confirm? You're approaching the perfect time to do the NT scan (weeks 11-13), so it might not be a bad idea. Good luck!
post #4 of 43
I love the could it be twins threads, but you had better update us with the outcome either way! From what I've heard (I didn't use a doppler at all during my twin pregnancy until after baby A was born), detection by doppler is highly unreliable. I don't think it would hurt to up your protein & water intake. What will be your plan for official detection?
post #5 of 43
Well I can just tell you my experience: at 14w5d I saw a homebirth midwife who said I was measuring 19w. I had suspected twins since conception, basically (seriously, one of those freaky things), so I asked her to look for two heartbeats, She said it was very unreliable at that point, and the only way to be sure is with two dopplers but then you sometimes get weird feedback and stuff. So she found a heartbeat on either side of my uterus, but they were in the same range. She said it would be unusual at that gestation to find clear heartbeats so far apart, but there was just no way of telling for sure. So the next day I had an u/s and found out for sure

Definitely let us know either way! I hope you have a lovely pregnancy.
post #6 of 43
Thread Starter 
Right now, I'm in the process of trying to find a homebirth midwife. There aren't that many in my area, from what I've been able to find out. If my search fails, I'll be stuck either going back to my old OB/Gyn, finding a new one who treats me less like a file number, or going UP/UC (definitely not my first choice!!!)

I'm considering going back to my old OB/Gyn for bloodwork and the usual "first appointment" BS since I haven't yet informed her that I'm dropping her as my care provider. I could probably get an ultrasound with no problem if I went in. I guess if I got confirmation of twins (eeeek...it makes me nervous, just thinking about it) I'd have to make plans from there.

I'll definitely be updating once I have more info. In the meantime, I've already been drinking lots of water and eating a lot more protein than usual (last pregnancy, I couldn't even think about meat without getting queasy, but this time I've been craving it all day long!) It's mostly just a question of how much I can/should eat.

Thanks for the answers, ladies!!!
post #7 of 43
Favrielle: I think that sounds like a good idea: go to the OB for that first appointment or two-- get the ultrasound and the bloodwork-- and then you can always drop them as soon as you find the midwife you want. And, honestly, it can't hurt to have an OB who knows you (whether this one or another one) as a backup so that if something serious happens and you need medical intervention or help, you're in their system and they're not a stranger to you (or vice versa).
post #8 of 43
Yeah, I'd go do a quick "introductory" appointment, get the info you need, and then go from there.
post #9 of 43
Thread Starter 
Hi, all! I'm back with a sort-of update.

I went ahead and did the "intro" OB appointment. I actually saw the PA instead of the OB. It wasn't a disaster, but it wasn't my ideal, either. (I'm only allowed to gain 20lbs?!?!?!)

Two things:

-- I'm measuring "larger than she expected for not-quite 12 weeks", with my fundus nearly halfway to my navel.

-- She checked for a heartbeat but only found one. It was pretty high up, but babe was moving a lot, so she didn't get a good count. She didn't really *try* to find two, despite my request; just one and done.

She brushed off my "What if there're two?" comments and questions and told me they'll just do an ultrasound if I keep measuring large later on. I think this is the only time I've ever wished for an u/s happy doc, kwim?

I'm still drinking like there's no tomorrow, and protein has become my best friend. I just can't get enough. (Whether I've got one or two in there, they'll be very healthy!) Now if I can just start gaining weight, life will be good.

So, anyway...nothing conclusively points to twins or not twins at this point.
post #10 of 43
Oh, how exciting! Are you hoping for twins? I LOVE reading these threads!!! (I do not have twins-yet anyway. I have been suspecting twins with this pregnancy and at my last mw appointment I measured 4 weeks ahead of my dates [very sure of dates] which I've never done [I have 2 older kiddos] and which made me go twin crazy all over again. )

Please remember to keep us updated! I can't stand not knowing what the final outcome is!!!
post #11 of 43
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cory View Post
Oh, how exciting! Are you hoping for twins? I LOVE reading these threads!!! (I do not have twins-yet anyway. I have been suspecting twins with this pregnancy and at my last mw appointment I measured 4 weeks ahead of my dates [very sure of dates] which I've never done [I have 2 older kiddos] and which made me go twin crazy all over again. )

Please remember to keep us updated! I can't stand not knowing what the final outcome is!!!
As horrible as this sounds, no, I'm not really hoping for twins. I realized as a young teen that the "romance" associated with having twins wasn't necessarily the reality, and I don't know how well I could handle them. My Dh works 3.5 hours away from home, and we can't move to be with him, so he's only home twice a month. He will get *maybe* one month off around/after my due date, but that's it. Then I'll be left with just my in-laws to help out, and one of the only two I'd be comfortable with is moving to Oregon in a month. So...yeah...twins, while amazing and something I would learn to deal with, would not be my first choice. (no offense to all you amazing twin and more mamas...I'm actually in awe of you!)
post #12 of 43
Favrielle: I don't think that's horrible at all. The main reason I was hoping for twins is that it was about impossible for me to get pregnant and took lots of money and many many treatments to get here, so I figure this is my only shot, and ideally I'd like to have two, as I value having a sibling in my own life. So, we were thrilled with the news of two. But it is pretty scary too! Different days I have different worries-- lately my mind has been getting wrapped up in fears of very early labor, etc. I'm still ecstatically thrilled, but the realities are sinking in a bit more!
post #13 of 43
I was NOT thrilled to find out I was pregnant again, much less with twins! But you grow into it.

I hate the whole OB thing, seriously. I often feel like they give prenatal "monitoring" whereas my midwives gave more of what I'd call prenatal "care". What would it have hurt to take a quick peek with u/s to rule it in or out? Ugh.

Eat your protein!
post #14 of 43
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Originally Posted by favrielle View Post
As horrible as this sounds, no, I'm not really hoping for twins. I realized as a young teen that the "romance" associated with having twins wasn't necessarily the reality, and I don't know how well I could handle them. My Dh works 3.5 hours away from home, and we can't move to be with him, so he's only home twice a month. He will get *maybe* one month off around/after my due date, but that's it. Then I'll be left with just my in-laws to help out, and one of the only two I'd be comfortable with is moving to Oregon in a month. So...yeah...twins, while amazing and something I would learn to deal with, would not be my first choice. (no offense to all you amazing twin and more mamas...I'm actually in awe of you!)
I actually said my whole life that I never wanted twins
I adore the kids, and in some ways it is totally awesome to have twins, but honestly I still think probably once a day that things would be a lot easier if I only had one baby.

If you do have twins, though, it will be a huge blessing. My guys at 6 months love to look at each other and make noises at each other, and watching that relationship develop is just wonderful!
post #15 of 43
Thread Starter 
Ok, so I now have a new question, and might just get a bit annoying, 'cause this is driving me nuts.

I'm 14w5d. I found a homebirth midwife, and we'll be having our first appointment here in a few weeks. I'm still concerned about twins, as I haven't been able to rule it out.

I was measuring large at my 11w5d appointment with the OB. Now, at 14w5d, my fundus is most definitely AT my navel. In the mornings before I use the bathroom, it's even a bit higher than that. So, I guess the question is, where were you measuring at 14-15 weeks with your twins?


(And now that I'm with the midwife, I won't be getting an u/s until at least 20wks through the local commercial u/s place, if then. They won't do them any earlier than that, and prefer to wait until 25 wks+.)
post #16 of 43
favrielle: at my 14 week OB appointment, I was measuring 16 weeks (I'm having twins)-- and I think it was just below my navel (she did just a quick approximation, feeling for my uterus). She said that it's later in the pregnancy where the numbers start to diverge more, typically.
post #17 of 43
At 10 weeks, I measured 14. At 14 weeks, I measured 18. At 18 weeks, I measured 22.

I did have a US at 10 weeks, because I was VERY sure of my dates (I know exactly when I got pregnant!).

At 10 weeks, even though we suspected twins because of my large fundal height, we didn't even get one heartbeat. At 14 weeks we heard two. If you get lucky with the Doppler, you can get them both at once!

Twins are a wonderful blessing, but it sure helps to have two parents in the house every day.

Best wishes to you, whatever your outcome.
post #18 of 43
Speaking of doppler: we could only hear one heartbeat at that 14 week appointment-- (well we weren't sure if we were hearing the same baby twice when we moved the doppler or two separate ones-- but if we hadn't known I had two in there, I don't think the doctor would have figured it out from the doppler alone) (but we did a quick u/s and confirmed both heartbeats still beating)
post #19 of 43
Saw this on new posts.

On the no-twins side, I measured 2 weeks ahead my whole pregnancy and at 15 weeks we thought we heard 2 heartbeats on the doppler. Turned out the just be an echo. Just one baby. (Although DH nearly had a heartattack!)
post #20 of 43
At 20 weeks I was 28cm. The most ahead I got was 11cm and it was more typically 9-10.
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