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post #161 of 250
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Originally Posted by wombatclay View Post
leighann- maybe a piece of fabric tied like a bandana but not so "paisley pirate"? I've been trying to come up with a nice knit or woven pattern for what would basically be a bandana, just nicer looking. Also, do you live near a shopping mall that has one of those "tween/teen" accessories stores? I don't actually know the names, but almost every mall seems to have a shop with an ear piercing station, gobs of hair ties and hats and glitter and rhinestones and whatnots. Oddly enough those shops often have a wide variety of haircoverings... wide bands, knit hats, bandanas, scarves, etc. There may be something there that would suit both your personal and social comfort levels.
The Icing and Claire's are probably what you are thinking of.
post #162 of 250
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Originally Posted by eilonwy View Post
Hm. Most of the Jewish Pagans I know think of themselves as "Jewish Pagans," where as the once-Catholic Pagans tend to think of themselves either as exclusively Pagan (or, you know, whatever) or as "Recovering Catholics." The folks I know who were raised Jewish or who converted later tend to really enjoy the crossovers between Judaism and whatever Pagan tradition they follow. I know several people who've become more observant in their Judaism through Pagan practices. It's always struck me as kind of sad that people who leave Christian traditions seem to feel the need to make a full break, while Jews who walk less traditionally-Jewish paths still tend to identify as Jewish. Nothing's 100%, mind, but I've only encountered two "Christian Witches" while I've met *four* Jewish Chaotes, a few Jewish Witches, some Jewish Wiccans, Jewish Gaians... I mean it goes on and on. And for the most part, covering (or not) doesn't seem to phase people, whether it's linked to modesty or mysticism, both or neither.
I think part of this might be because being jewish is different than being christian. While a lot of jews, myself included (yeah, I'm one of those pagan jews lol) take offense at non-jews calling judaism a race (ties into bad cultural memories of the holocaust and pogroms, and such), we self-identify as of the jewish race. In fact, they've done DNA studies, and it does seem to be a "race" jewish men from all over the world can be traced back to the middle east through their y chromosomes, and women from their mitochondiral DNA. Its also because its a culture whether or not you are religious. Its kind of like being italian and catholic and caucasion. even if you lose the catholocism, your still italian and caucasion. I also think that for many people their personal history with judaism was less traumatic than for many christians or former christians. I don't know why, but I know a LOT of people who were raised christian, for whom it is very traumatic and the whole idea of organized religion scares them. I don't know any people raised jewish for whom this was the case. Perhaps a lot of us were like me, who were raised only culturally jewish, and then are finding that the combination of the jewish religion and paganism works well spiritually?

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Originally Posted by Twinklefae View Post
Well, I think because for some it would be double shock value.
I don't know about the shock value that much. I haven't started covering full time (since I only have 1 scarf, and feel weird to wear something that is obviously the same scarf, all the time lol), but I'm working on it. I haven't had shock from ANYONE, which is odd, since well, no one I know covers. but its kind of like they don't even connect the dots? Just, "thats a nice scarf" or "how on earth did you wrap that scarf in such a pretty way" (usually in a coronet style for that one) or "I like your hat". and that's with only one scarf. lol.

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I thought I was losing my mind and was going to be the only pagan to EVER cover. Til you started this thread. It's nice to know that you are not alone.
Me too lol
post #163 of 250
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Originally Posted by Magelet View Post
I haven't had shock from ANYONE, which is odd, since well, no one I know covers. but its kind of like they don't even connect the dots? Just, "thats a nice scarf" or "how on earth did you wrap that scarf in such a pretty way" (usually in a coronet style for that one) or "I like your hat". and that's with only one scarf. lol.
When you say "coronet style" are talking about styles like either of these?
Dutch Crown
The Crown
post #164 of 250
the dutch crown. that's where I learned it. Its easy to do, and looks great. I'd love to get a square/triangle shaped scarf to try some of the other ties there, but for now what I have is a very long rectangle scarf, so thats the tie I mostly use. Or like just the first step of the dutch crown, if the ends hanging down aren't going to be a problem that day (aka no little babes, no forges, no candles, no stoves. which basically means, rarely. lol. though I like fussing with it sometimes. and I'll often use that for running out the door, and finish the dutch crown while I'm walking in whereever I'm going.
post #165 of 250
Count me in please.

Who would have thought that so many pagans came to covering on their own? It is really shocking to me.
post #166 of 250
I fell away from covering, mosly because the cover I had knitted was waaay too wide, much widr than I though it would be. And because the other one I had (also knitted by be) was itchy. So tonight I bought a wide, pre-tied headband. I'm gonna sew some bling onto it with my abundant supply of Swarovski crystal beads, because I just have to glitter, and try again.
post #167 of 250
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PatienceandLove: Ah- but those of us with unique personal style have even more of a chance to bring things like headcovering into the "mainstream".
I suppose, but I'm not concerned about bringing anything into the mainstream--beyond maybe that there doesn't need to be only one stream, main or otherwise.

I notice that many of the covers in the links cover all of the hair, which I know goes along with Jewish tradition. If I were to do this, I'd rather not be having my hair all up and my neck exposed. To me, that is more "naked" than having my hair down in its usual loose style.
post #168 of 250
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Originally Posted by wombatclay View Post
leighann- maybe a piece of fabric tied like a bandana but not so "paisley pirate"? I've been trying to come up with a nice knit or woven pattern for what would basically be a bandana, just nicer looking. Also, do you live near a shopping mall that has one of those "tween/teen" accessories stores? I don't actually know the names, but almost every mall seems to have a shop with an ear piercing station, gobs of hair ties and hats and glitter and rhinestones and whatnots. Oddly enough those shops often have a wide variety of haircoverings... wide bands, knit hats, bandanas, scarves, etc. There may be something there that would suit both your personal and social comfort levels.
I'll have to try that, thanks! Tonight I have free time between Fiona's clogging lessons and our LLL meeting so we are going to go look around Wal-Mart a bit. I hope to find some wide headbands or something to try. My hair is short (about chin length, maybe a bit longer) right now and finding something that I can cover with and not make DH suspicious (lol) will be a challenge. I've decided to grow my hair out again so it should get easier before long.
post #169 of 250
Test wore a scarf for a little while before going out today.

Came to the conclusion that my hair Is my cover.

I'll probably play with this more, at home, when I have some scarves in more flattering colors.
post #170 of 250
This is really interesting. I've always liked to wear things on my head; hat's, scarves, headbands and such. I've never really though of it as "covering" in the same way other religious traditions do. I really like the idea of protecting myself from outside energy or maybe containing my own energy within myself and not allowing it to dissipate.

Hmmmm I'm going to have to think about this more.

I've knitted up a few of these recently in various colors and in a finer gauge yarn so they are a little less "ski wearish" I really like the quartered circle above my forehead. It feels right.
post #171 of 250
I'm pagan and have been head covering for a while now... nothing too formal sometimes just a bandanna or sometimes something more fancy... i'm very attracted to the hajib-ish style although i feel... awkward like that in public.
in general i wear it in a more jewish style.

I feel very drawn to it but at the same time... it bothers me.

I don't like that in a lot of the current religions women wear head coverings to show their submission to god and to their husbands/fathers... <---- this bothers me to no end.

i also don't like the association of having to hide a womans body (or anyones body) as the body is natural and beautiful as is.

but i do think it can really enhance the beauty of a women and after reading some of this this thread i could see how it could be 'reclaimed' as a right of womenhood to show her status in society (marriage / mother / crone? etc)


I haven't read the whole thread but I wonder.... has anyone integrated a head covering ceremony as part of a rite of passage for themselves or their girls going through puberty? Hmmmmmmmm
post #172 of 250
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Originally Posted by onyxravnos View Post
but i do think it can really enhance the beauty of a women and after reading some of this this thread i could see how it could be 'reclaimed' as a right of womenhood to show her status in society (marriage / mother / crone? etc)


I haven't read the whole thread but I wonder.... has anyone integrated a head covering ceremony as part of a rite of passage for themselves or their girls going through puberty? Hmmmmmmmm
Interesting idea!

I know that, personally, I am not going to talk to DD about covering in Church until she reaches the age of First Communion. For us, this is the Age of Reason, and when hard core learning of The Faith really begins. To me, spiritually, this is the time for her to learn about why I (and other women) cover our heads during Mass. If she wanted her First Communion/Confirmation to be the first time she wore a headcovering for Mass, I would totally see it as a Rite of Passage.
post #173 of 250
I did it. I finally did it. I bought a long scarf today and I've got it tied on in the "Crown" style. My long hair still falls out of the back of the tie, but my head is covered. Now I just need to work up the cojones to go out like this. So far, I'm loving the first 15 minutes of it. The pre-tied wide headband I bought at wal-fart kept sliding back on my head, but I think this one will work. Off to clean the house.
UPDATE: I've been covering outside the home for the past few days. I like it! I've mastered the wide headband and it's what I mostly use. I bought a pretty scarf and tied it up "Crown" style, both with ans without tails. My hysband sais I looked "bummy" :
post #174 of 250

Covering Pagan Mama

I came across this thread, and loved reading about all the other Pagan Mamas that cover out there. I have been covering for a couple of years now. It all depends on my mood that decides which covering to wear. I like tischels and hijabs but I allow an inch or so of the crown of my head to show. I use clips to secure it, and just do a quick wrap. My husband says I look like a woman from the 50s going out for a drive in the convertable. I also have some Ana-Baptist type coverings for around the house.


I started 2 years after my son was born, for no other reason than it felt right for a Mom to do. Besides I am studying Roman Recon Paganism, and Roman women covered their heads! So, since I am trying to recon the culture/beliefs/lifestyle as much as I can, why not cover my head. I have a few togas that comes in very handy around the house, here in hell's backyard, during the months of June/July/Aug/Sept. Mostly I keep all of my skin covered, as the sun it just too darn warm here! I try to be modest also (I even found a really nice cape dress w/apron on Ebay), as I am just more comfortable that way. I wear no makeup (or on very rare occasions), as it's a preference. My husband has never given me any flack about it, and loves the "dressier" coverings that I have. I have no inate sewing ability, AT ALL. So, I wait for sales online, or if I come across them at yard sales. My boss is very accepting, and our patients are getting more and more used to my head being covered. It's funny though, the American born ones just stare, but the foreign born folks just flat out ask me what's up when they first meet me! LOL

Anyway, I love covering, and pretty much do not leave the house until I have a cover in place.
post #175 of 250
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Originally Posted by MommaFox View Post
I did it. I finally did it. I bought a long scarf today and I've got it tied on in the "Crown" style. My long hair still falls out of the back of the tie, but my head is covered.
Did you just do the crown style over your hair down? I tried it like that (I braided my hair to keep it from getting caught in the scarf, then unbraided it), and well, frankly, it looked a little weird on me. I'm definitely going to try the crown style again sometime, with my hair pinned like I do for the dutch crown. Did you like the way it looked with hair down? I feel like I look a little less.... radical with my hair out from under my scarf. Then again, why should I dress to please others than myself? regardless, I'd like to see how you did that style with your hair down. Maybe you could take a pic? I'd love to see one. Thanks
post #176 of 250
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Originally Posted by Magelet View Post
I'd like to see how you did that style with your hair down. Maybe you could take a pic? I'd love to see one. Thanks
As I was signing on to mothering I was thinking maybe everyone on this thread could take a pick and share their fav styles / wraps for head coverings? I'll take some pics tonight and share them when I get internet again.

I think it would be fun to see what everyone else is doing.
post #177 of 250
I read this thread a few months back, and while I've never covered before, the idea was very appealing to me as a shield against the energies of others when I'm out and about. I just used the bandana or two and hat or two I have, and just while out in public, particularly in settings that tend to stress me out with the numbers of people or attitudes. It's been really successful for me, a bit of a way to shut all that out of my head. People seem to stop me and intrude less I think.

I don't think I could do it for within ritual though, I'm too conditioned to the "ritual naked" concept. Like, the Lady and the Lord can see me in full, and the family and friends can see me in full, but strangers are bit apart.
post #178 of 250
I wrote a blog post with some pics and how-to's of several ways I cover my hair. http://craftyjourney.blogspot.com/20...ng-styles.html


Thats interesting, Evies mom. I think in some ways, I agree. I rarely cover my head at home (and thus around family) except for shabbat. I feel totally fine letting my hair be uncovered while dancing, even with strangers, which to me, is one of the times when I feel most connected/communing with G-d. I almost think its better, because then I am open to channeling/receiving/giving G-d's energy. (I don't use pronouns often, because to me, G-d encompasses both the male and the female, which gives the English language fits to express) Its for normal times in front of strangers (PARTICULARLY strange men) that I really most want to cover.
post #179 of 250
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Originally Posted by onyxravnos View Post
As I was signing on to mothering I was thinking maybe everyone on this thread could take a pick and share their fav styles / wraps for head coverings? I'll take some pics tonight and share them when I get internet again.

I think it would be fun to see what everyone else is doing.
Here's my attempt at sharing. I say attempt, as I am so not linking savvy!!


http://headcoveringpaganmom.blogspot.com/


I have no preference for either of them. The pink multicolored scarf is new (I bought it today on sale at Target), and this is how I would wear them when I just want something real quick to run out of the house. The small covering pics aren't great, but DH had to run and play with DS. Oh, and the pic of me covered from head to toe is due to a day we had here in Naples that was the coldest daytime high on record (44 degrees!). I allowed me to wear some of my heavier clothes.
post #180 of 250
ok- so i just stumbled across this tonight and am flabbergasted that it is a 9 page thread!

i've been wearing only skirts now since at least December and love it. i have been feeling pulled towards covering since then too, but not sure how and when to start. amazing (as many have already said) that so many other pagan women are feeling this at the same time! wearing skirts has not been about modesty for me (since i wear them with tank tops on occasion), but about maintaining my connection with the sacred feminine in my daily life. i haven't read through the whole thread (just the first 4 pages) but i really liked the seret metzach style headband on one of the links. i bet i could knit or crochet something like that for myself fairly easily. y'all have really encouraged me, so thanks.

oh- and i agree that there is still great wisdom to be gleaned for those that walk this path from the Abrahamic traditions and it is unfortunate that so many shun the opportunity to do so.
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