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post #101 of 138
I have a question. In what way would any vaccines help? Are they expected to prevent infection? It seems a very odd to me.

I won't get into the debate on the principle, piercing ears or not. It isn't common here, so I haven't considered it.

However, I personally do my very best to prevent allergies, pain infections etc for my DD. I had my ears pierced at 13. 6 months of painful constant infections followed. And I developed nickel allergy, which is a hassle (think jeans buttons, rings, watches, hair clips, bobby pins etc. etc.). I hardly ever wear earrings nowadays, but the holes are still there.
post #102 of 138
Just curious..

At what age do you feel they would have to be to be able to ask for permission?
post #103 of 138
DD is 6 almost 7 (I was 7 when I decided I wanted my ears pierced..OUCH!) and she still does not want it done. I ask her, and she says no maybe next year. I can remember my 1st ear piercing being more painful and being more trouble than any of my other piercings. My mom would have to clean them twice a day and turn them. When I had them for 6 weeks she had to change them out for new earrings. It hurt so bad, and I was always fighting her. IMO, there is enough to deal with when you have an infant, why put one more thing on your plate with making sure her ears dont get infected. With that said, I know ALOT of parents who get their baby's ears pierced. The lo I babysit for had her ears pierced 3 times!!!! Her mom took her to the pediatrician to have it done, and the first time they were crooked, they werent even, so she took her back to the same pediatrician to have it done again. Well, they were crooked again! So she took her to claires and had it done there. The little girl is now two, and she is always loosing her earrings and some days she only has one in, or the mom doesnt put any in at all.
post #104 of 138
Had my own done at 9, then another set at 21. Would like to make a special day of it for my daughter, one that she can remember.

Worked at a daycare several years ago. Got 1 year old up from her nap, earring back was missing. Took the post out, gave it to mom and warned her that lo was probably playing with it. Oh no, mom said, she wouldn't do that. Next day, I get her up from her nap and the earring is in her mouth.

Frankly, kids try to swallow worse things than earrings, but why take that risk?


Heavens, I hope the OP is brave enough to post here again.
post #105 of 138
OP – I’m not sure if you are still reading this thread but I just wanted to invite you to the Vaccination forum. You asked if you should wait till 6 months when they have a few shots before piercing. At 6 months if you vax on schedule, they would have HepB, Rotavirus, DTaP, Hib, PCV and Polio. None of these have anything to do with ear piercing other than HepB if you went the mall route. Stop by and read through the archives and hopefully become a little more informed about vaccines. You may save yourself some heartache.

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Originally Posted by Eliza_Douchehammer View Post
No, not even close. Ear piercing is putting a tiny hole in the earlobe that can close up in the future.
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Originally Posted by JamesMama View Post

I'm not ashamed of getting them done, I love them....and I hope that DD will love them in the future. If not, she can take them out. *shrug*
I must say that reading these really struck a nerve. My mom got my ears pierced before I can remember. The holes do not close up. I hate earings and have never worn any in over 10 years. The holes are still there and very visible. I hate them.
post #106 of 138
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Originally Posted by captain crunchy View Post
They are similar. Both practices are altering the bodyscape of a defenseless infant without their consent and without medical reason. Both are unnecessary cosmetic procedures done for the sake of vanity, culture, or with the intent of "improving" someone's attractiveness/appeal/acceptance. Both are (imo) selfish acts perpetuated by people who do not stop to consider that their infant actually feels pain and may actually be scarred (physically or even emotionally) by their action. Both acts are done while forcibly holding down a child and deliberately causing them pain, then both justified by the fact that the child "won't remember" and that it "only hurt for a moment".

Very similar imo.
Thank you captain
post #107 of 138
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Originally Posted by captain crunchy View Post
Body altering without someone's free choice for vanity sake aside

It just never ceases to confuse me why a little tiny infant girl (or boy or whatever) isn't "cute" enough on their own without holes in their ears and earrings poked through them.

Honestly, what is the point????

I dunno, I have a real problem with "they only cried for ___" sentiments. What could be worth making a child cry for the sake of their cuteness or whatever when not a medical necessity or whatever? I am just not cool with inflicting pain for vanity's sake so we will have to agree to disagree I guess.
YES TO THIS!!!!
post #108 of 138
captain crunchy you are my hero
post #109 of 138
I'd wait until she asks for her ears to be pierced. It is her body after all.
post #110 of 138
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Originally Posted by Hesperia View Post
captain crunchy you are my hero
Yep, my hero as well You said what I was thinking, I was just not able to write it down as fast or as clever.
post #111 of 138
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Originally Posted by vegmamadeb View Post
Just curious..

At what age do you feel they would have to be to be able to ask for permission?
I think a lot depends on the child's maturity levels. I have a friend who is a professional piercer and I'm not sure she'd go under eight years, and even at 8, she'd need to know the parents and child quite well. If she isn't willing to pierce my child, my child is too young.
post #112 of 138
My oldest daughter started asking for them at age 4. After a year, we let her get them on her 5th birthday. So far, she has done very well with them. As soon as I had her, my mother wanted her ears done. I refused. Then my brother and I had little girls within a few months apart and mom started in on both of us about earrings. She got the point and has not said another word. I look at babies with them and think of how sorry I feel for them. There is no reason to rush into it just because she is a girl.

My mom had mine done at 3. I have had nothing but trouble out of them. They won't close. If I put in earrings (maybe twice a year, tops) they get infected. I even tried a belly ring, twice and that was a no go. My body has built up an allergy to that kind of stuff.
post #113 of 138
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Originally Posted by captain crunchy View Post
There is absolutely no altruistic or non-selfish reason to pierce a child's ears. None.
I think there is.

Now, I grant this is a fairly uncommon case, and I understand that you probably won't agree with me, but here's why I had my babies' ears pierced:

My youngest two are MZ (identical) twin girls. Though my husband and I could tell them apart, no one else could. So we had their ears pierced to help people tell them apart. One always wears pink, the other always wears white (and we have a mnemonic that matches those colors to their names, to help folks remember).

Now, to me, the short period of time when it hurt was a small price to pay for the psychological benefit of having people call each of them by her own name, rather than "baby" or "hey you" or "which one are you?"

I think it's psychologically good for them to be called by their own names, and this was the best way help family and friends to do that. (I know other folks have other methods, but this was the most consistant we heard of. Others didn't work for us for various reasons; bows won't stay in their hair, color-coding clothes was impractical as they're wearing mostly hand-me-downs, didn't want to write in Sharpie on their skin, they'd chew a bracelet, etc.)

So, for us, the motivation wasn't vanity, it was health, albeit mental/spiritual health. And I have to tell you: totally worth it. It's so good to hear, for example, their big sister, calling them by the correct names, getting to know them as individuals, etc.

Again, I know it's an unusual situation. But I disagreed with your assertion that there was no altruistic reasons, and so I thought I'd post.
post #114 of 138
A question for those who are fine with infant ear piercing; if I thought it would make my kids cuter to have their noses or bellybuttons pierced as infants, is that okay too?
If not, what's the difference?
post #115 of 138
I'm not going to jump into the debate, but a word to those who think that the holes will "just close up" if the child decides she or he doesn't like having pierced ears. That is not always true. The holes don't close. Not on everyone. I had my ears pierced when I was very very young and my desire to wear earrings comes and goes. But, I have gone earring-free for up to a year at a time and the holes do not go away. They do not even get smaller.
post #116 of 138
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Originally Posted by finn'smama View Post
A question for those who are fine with infant ear piercing; if I thought it would make my kids cuter to have their noses or bellybuttons pierced as infants, is that okay too?
If not, what's the difference?
post #117 of 138
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Originally Posted by BunnySlippers View Post
You know, I've asked this question in a number of these threads and have never gotten an answer. I wonder why??
post #118 of 138
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Originally Posted by finn'smama View Post
A question for those who are fine with infant ear piercing; if I thought it would make my kids cuter to have their noses or bellybuttons pierced as infants, is that okay too?
If not, what's the difference?
Speaking only for cultures where this is a long standing practice: "Cuteness" is a non-factor in ear-piercing.

We do a great disservice to the generations of women who have practised ear-piercing by using terms like personal gratification, pleasure and gendering, vanity. If this were to be such a life-altering act for the person concerned , if it were to result in the kind of intrusion and trauma (words used repeatedly in responses), you can be sure the women and men would have raised great objection to it in subsequent generations and tried to stop it. Like so many other practices that have been questioned and stopped. Really, nobody except outsiders to the culture keep getting so offended by it. Nevermind how offending their words are to a people known for being extremely child friendly. They really don't need someone, who has NO understanding of the significance it holds, to do a superficial analysis and come up with various terms which don't bear any resemblance to what the physical and cultural experience beyond the description/definition of ear-piercing. Proof is ultimately to be found in the fact that these children (with holes in their ear-lobe cartilage) are some of the happiest in the world. Who are we to patronize them by telling them that their rights were violated.
post #119 of 138
I think what works for one family isn't going to be the same for another. With that, in our family I have decided that my DD can get her ears pierced whenever she asks to do it and is serious about it. She's 6.5 yrs old now and has not asked yet. But anytime she asks I will take her to do it. However, I will not make the choice for her. They're her ears.
post #120 of 138
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Originally Posted by gealach View Post
I'm not going to jump into the debate, but a word to those who think that the holes will "just close up" if the child decides she or he doesn't like having pierced ears. That is not always true. The holes don't close. Not on everyone. I had my ears pierced when I was very very young and my desire to wear earrings comes and goes. But, I have gone earring-free for up to a year at a time and the holes do not go away. They do not even get smaller.
That probably depends on your ear lobe and how thick it is. I have had my ears pierced 4 times, 2 in each ear. But one piercing was done less than two years ago (I was going through a phase ) and I stopped wearing earrings about a year ago and the holes are still there but there's no way I can push an earring through, ick. It's blocked inside there. I'd have to get them re-pierced.
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