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post #21 of 57
Oh, flapjack! enjoy your break! MIL's going to be gone over thanksgiving break-- (her religious group has a 'camp' every thanksgiving... and I"m really going to enjoy the time without her! !

I'm sorry to hear about all of FIL's health problems... I know what you mean about them just 'giving up'. It makes things difficult for all involved.

I haven't made much progress on getting quotes for a downstairs apartment. The plummetting economy has me terrified. We just aren't in the same position we were a few months ago, yk? On the other hand, the hubster talked to MIL about taking a backseat when it comes to the kitchen and other housework... so far (2 wks?) things have been much better around here.
post #22 of 57
Thread Starter 
Don't EVER feel guilty for wanting and enjoying a break!!! NOBODY can go 24/7 without wanting to scream sometimes!

I mean, I have been dealing with my elderly parents for 5 years now. First, with Mom having one stroke and them separating because of it (she had to move out of their house and Dad refused to move with her). It wasn't nasty or anything, just weird. Then, Mom had a second, more severe stroke that hit her memory big time.

I had to drive 90 miles and take her to the hospital. SHe was there for a week. Then, she was moved to a rehabilitation facility for a month. Ds and I moved into her apartment so that we could drive to see her twice a day (the rehabilitation clinic was 15 miles away, so x4= 60 miles a day). As it became clear she wouldn't be able to return to her totally independent life, I was told she was a wandering risk and would need a serious facility.

She was released into a dementia unit. It was so sad and I saw Mom going downhill fast, being the only one there that could communicate her needs easily, but giving up because she was losing the desire to care anymore.

After a year+ there, I was able to move her into a wonderful assisted living residence that is just 8 minutes from our front door! I talk to her every day on the phone and we see her, at least, every other day. She can go for independent walks (the staff knows where she goes and keep an eye on her, just in case).

All this time, Dad was getting more and more frail and we felt he wasn't going to see this Christmas (we were right ). I had to take over all the bill-paying and make sure all was as best it could be at his house (90 miles away).

She broke her foot the Nov. 6. Then, Dad died Nov. 7. More arrangements to be made for both. She has been staying with us until she gets the cast off (hopefully, Dec 4) as we fear she'll take a fall at her place and hurt herself more seriously. She doesn't like the walker and forgets about it, as well.

I am awaiting the arrival of the death certificates so that I can handle the insurance claims and all the other paperwork that must be done (I am Mom's POA and the executor of Dad's will). I'll have to write and re-write the details of Dad's death over and over on these papers, a task I am not looking forward to doing. There is Dad's house, as well, that will be empty all Winter and will need to be sold in the Spring-Summer.

My fil had a pacemaker put in in September and we have to dela with his health issues and the fact that he doesn't take care of himself the way he knows he should.

I've been dealing with elderly parents in one way or another for these several years with only the help and support of dh and ds. My two siblings (there are 3, but one is estranged from the family) are a selfish and worthless lot. They have not called me but once since Dad died. They haven't called to check on Mom. They make no mention of visiting. No questions as to what they should get Mom for Christmas. They have conveniently forgotten all that our parents have done for them. Ugh, my Christmas wish for them is a short trip to a very hot place (if you catch my drift ).

So, if I get any breaks, I relish them and feel no guilt at all!!! I was thinking that, for the first time in many years, we don't have to make arrangements to bring my Dad up here for Thanksgiving and then drive him home the next day. Or, that we don't have to worry about his smoking in the house (he got up at 3-4:00 AM and did crossword puzzles and chain-smoked everyday!). I never sleep well when Dad visits because I am waiting to smell those awful fumes and have to go out and ask him not to smoke and then spray toxic air "freshener" all around to mask the smell (it is currently 15 degrees outside, not too energy-effective to just open windows!).

Should I feel guilty that I am relieved that those concerns are a thing of the past?? Most certainly NOT! Do I miss Dad more than I can say? Most certainly YES.

Yesterday, Mom and I "did" her Christmas cards. She couldn't remember several of the people and we had quite a giggle about her signing cards "Love, Joanne" and not having a clue as to who they are! It was a lovely "normal" afternoon and really refreshed my mind.

So, if you get ANY breaks, enjoy them and savor them. Even if it is just leaving your spouse or partner with the parent long enough for you to walk around the block or kill an hour at Wal-Mart, you need it. Take it. ASK FOR IT!

My and to everyone that is involved in doing the very real job of caring for elderly relatives. It isn't easy. It's hard. We doi ti because we love them, even when they do things that make us want to because we're tired. Or, when they do somethng for the millionth time and realize it afterwards. Or, have to say as if they were children. Or, feel like (in our own minds, of course!). Or, because we just can't take it one more minute. Or, : for a little while, just to clear our own heads. Or, resisting the urge to (or, maybe, giving in to it once in awhile). And, in the end because we love them so much and know there IS an end to all this and we will miss them so very much when they are gone.
post #23 of 57
This thread is great.

My dad is 84 (another WWII vet). My mom 76. She has had skin cancer surgery, a lung resection, and acute necrotizing pancreatitis from 2003-2006. She's "OK" now, if Ok means some memory loss, limited mobility and still nails down a pack a day. Inside the house.

Dad was the healthier one, but he took a tumble on the street this summer. While people came to his aid, and his injuries were remarkable minor (dislocated finger, badly cut nose) he was shaken a little bit. He also has glaucoma and it's getting harder for him to see. Luckily we live in a big city and they have lived in the same place for many years - so everyone knows them.

But I can see my responsibilities growing....I have been there for them, but now need to step in a little more. Thanks for merging the 2 threads!
post #24 of 57
I'd definately like to join.

I've just begun to do some formal "care" for my mom who is still independent but needed help with her paperwork, visit her in the hospital, get health aides set up...

It's hard, I've got two young kids... two and four, and i sometimes feel I don't have time for it all.

like now... i've got two crying kids right next to me and would really like to post more...


Anyway,

will talk more later
thanks

Liz
post #25 of 57
Thread Starter 
Please read my post over in Health & Healing. It deals with hypothermia warning signs. As my Dad died of hypothermia, I am passing this information to everyone.

It is really important, especially for those of us that are caregivers or keeping closer tabs on our elderly parents or other relatives!

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...9#post12774539
post #26 of 57
thank you so much for the link.........

I read your dad's story, I am sorry ... that must have been hard on you. I guess losing people is always hard. But it is also hard when someone suddenly goes. That's how my dad went.

anyway, thanks again for the awesome link
post #27 of 57
Wow, this is a thread I've been looking for (& didn't know it existed).

We moved in with DH's parents a little over a year ago, when we lost our home in a natural disaster (wildfire). DH had been going over most weekends (they lived 50 min drive from where we were) & doing a lot of cooking, cleaning, repairs, yardwork, etc, & his folks were just barely managing, but probably were needing more help even then - shortly after we moved here, his mom got a lot worse (she's 83, FIL is 80) - her Alzheimer's really kicked in, she can barely walk, & she's pretty much incontinent - plus FIL had a small stroke & was disabled to begin with - uses a walker, mostly. One of DH's sisters is out of state, but the other lives a couple of blocks away; has 4 adult kids; hardly ever visits, does very little in the way of help (has driven FIL to a few Dr's appts) :

I've got 2 toddlers (2 1/2 years, & 16 months), & am basically just taking care of them & the in-laws. We're all together in a 1200 sq ft 1950's house - cheap rent, but we did pay to renovate both bathrooms (one literally had an open hole rotted through the floor, both were in bad shape), & we hired a care lady to come in 2x/week to give MIL showers & do some light cleaning in their bathroom & bedroom.

Even if the financial climate was better right now, what would the IL's do if we moved out?
post #28 of 57
Can i join

MY Parents live 5 minutes away from us and they are both 78 years old.
My father was diagnosed with terminal cancer 8 weeks ago ..... he is still at home and on Morphine but he is terribly ill!!

My Mother - I think may have the beginning stages of Alzheimers.

My dad has just finished several weeks of daily radiation. We have had to do the driving and its 1.5 hours round trip plus the treatments. we are all exhausted

I know this is his last christmas with us -- and I dont think he is even going to join us on Christmas day as he is just too ill.

I just feel overwhelmed tonight and need a hug
post #29 of 57
Subbing and lurking. MIL, 85 with dementia, is living with us and making life difficult.
post #30 of 57
My grandmother died yesterday.

We still have my grandfather to take care of though. This week is going to suck.

RIP Grandma
post #31 of 57
I'm sorry to hear about your grandma, Monarchgrrl. How are you feeling about everything?
post #32 of 57
I'm new here, but I've read through the posts.

My mom has Alzheimer's and my dad is her caretaker (though I use that term lightly as he does not care for her adequately.) My parents moved across the country to live near us one year ago. I'm trying hard to work with my dad and get the two of them into an assisted living facility. My mom desperately needs more care and mental stimulation as her disease is progressing rapidly.

I'm a SAHM to two kids and a third one on the way. If my kids were much older I'd take my mom in to live with me, but at this point I think I'd have a nervous breakdown if I did that. I do try to help as much as I can with taking my mom out or home with us once a week so my dad can have time alone. I've also set up Meals on Wheels (which my dad canceled after a week) and researched day care options for my mom, in home help with her care and with cleaning, but my dad refuses all of it. Thankfully he finally seems to see the need for moving into an assisted living facility.

Last week I reported my dad to Adult Protective Services for neglecting (not providing enough food) and verbally abusing my mom. I'm concerned it will turn into physical abuse when she becomes incontinent.

Life is tough right now.
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by riversong View Post
I'm sorry to hear about your grandma, Monarchgrrl. How are you feeling about everything?
Thank you!

I have lots of feelings right now. They're mixed. She was in a lot of pain from cancer and really wanted to die. But it's hard to just be relieved for her. Part of me is relieved. The last time I saw her was a month ago, when we had to put her in a nursing home. She was crying before we left about the pain and her, me and my mom had a real special (but heart-wrenching) moment. She was like a little girl and my mom had to be the mother and really feel her pain for her. I was crying because it was so hard to see her like that.

She was so happy to see me then though! I miss her.

I'm stressed because of all the arrangements to be done.

I'm so sad because I lost my brother in Iraq and my grandma in 9 months time. I can't imagine how my mom feels, losing her son and mother within 9 months!
post #34 of 57
Thread Starter 
Peppermint Leaf, I am so sorry for what you are dealing with right now. Take it one day at a time and make sure you say what you want to say to him. Even if you think he might not be aware of you, say those things that you want him to know. Let him know that you will make sure Mom is okay and that he doesn't need ot worry about her. Keep posting here, that's what this thread is about: support, venting, crying and sharing information.

Monarchgrrl, my condolences on your loss. Of course you have mixed feelings! I felt weird about being relieved that for the first time in 13 years I didn't have to arrange for my Dad to be here for the holidays and missing sleep because I am waiting to smell cigarette smoke from his smoking in the house (we don't allow that!). I miss the smoker, but I don't miss the smoking!

I understand the stress about arrangements. What do you need to know, maybe I can help? I know there is so much to handle. But, know this, many of the things CAN wait. Don't feel pressured into anything. Talk to us.

riversong, another I am sorry for your situation. Good for you on reporting your Dad. I know how difficult that must be for you. But, you have to be realistic and know that you are being an advocate for your Mom's health and safety.

We all are doing a hard job and it takes its toll on us and our families. We are the ones doing "payback" for the times they cared for us. Sometimes, as in my instance, we do it solo, with no help or support from siblings (I have 3 and they are completely absent). I have not heard from any of them since I called them on Nov. 13th, to tell them that our Dad was buried that day. No calls to ask how Mom is doing, nothing. : Thank goodness I have such great support in my dh and ds. I'd be lost without those two!

Let's keep the wonderful words going here and helping each other however we can.
post #35 of 57
Thread Starter 
PSA: ASSISTED LIVING INFORMATION ALERT!!

I was on the phone today talking to the insurance company (USAA) regarding my Dad's estate. I had to cancel his auto insurance and the gal & I were talking about where my Mom lives (in a lovely assisted living residence just a few minutes away from us).

The gal asked if Mom had renter's insurance for assisted living? I asked what she meant.

She explained that the employees of the residence are covered (insurance-wise) from injury caused by a resident (accidently or on purpose) through their employer or L&I.

However if, for example, my Mom accidently bumped another resident and that resident fell and was injured, the resident or their family could sue Mom (and us, by association) for whatever they want!!

This special renters insurance would cover Mom for up to $300,000 for just $50 per year (more is available). And, as my Mom has a separate umbrella policy with this company (USAA), as well, she is covered for a cool $1 million, in addition.

So, if you have a loved one in an assisted living facility, call their/your insurance company and ask about this type of coverage. With the difficulties of balance, mental problems that go with dementia/Alz, and the concerns that could come with injuring someone else in a residence/facility, it could be a very important investment for the entire family and it isn't very expensive. Even something as simple as a UTI can cause dementia-like results and behavioral problems (such as agression) in the elderly!

Just wanted you all to know about this. I didn't, and wish someone had told me about this a long time ago!
post #36 of 57
This is good to know, grahamsmom98. I'll be sure to ask the assisted living facility about it before my parents decide to move in. Also, thanks for the information about hypothermia.

Dh and I are worried that if something were to happen to my dad in their apartment, my mom wouldn't be able to find help. I hope she would go to a neighbor's door, but I don't think she can handle calling anyone.
post #37 of 57
Hi all,

Thanks for starting this thread. Wow, everyone is dealing with some very difficult situations. My condolences to those of you who have lost loved ones recently.

I'd like to join. I'm a caregiver 2-3 days per week for my elderly grandparents (grandma, age 90, omi, age 86 and opa, age 86). They all live with my parents. None of them drive anymore. Of the three, grandma is probably the most independent and does whatever she can to stay that way. She mostly needs rides to appointments, doctor visits, shopping, etc.

Omi and Opa are much worse off. Actually, Omi really should be in some kind of care facility but they have no money and the places that would take them, my Mom didn't want to put them, especially with Grandma getting to stay with my parents. O & O would never understand why they had to live somewhere else when Grandma could stay, even if it was because they needed more care. So the solution has been that my DD (9 mos) and I are daytime caregivers, and my Mom does all the rest. She's looking to hire one more caregiver for the rest of the week as she does work at my Dad's office doing the bookkeeping.

In January I will be helping my Mom get licensed as an Adult Foster Care Home, so that Omi and Opa can receive Medicare payments. Their only income currently is Social Security, which gets eaten up by insurance payments, medicine, etc. and they have no savings anymore. The Medicare payments would just be to pay caregivers for daytime help. Has anyone done something like this?

Well, I hope you all are doing okay with the holidays coming. I know it can cause a lot of stress within the family, just with all the pressure to get things done. I'll try to pop in here at least once a week, more if I can!

Take care!
Jen
post #38 of 57


We have some requests
post #39 of 57
Thanks! I almost forgot about this thread!

Here are some updates from me:

My grandma's memorial and funeral was beautiful. She would have approved for sure.

My grandpa is struggling with remembering things lately. I think he's happy to have control over his money again! I keep watch online to make sure he's paying his bills and not bouncing checks, though. He's doing a good job.

He mailed me all of his tax stuff for me to do them for him. We'll see how that goes...I'm an Accountant but NOT a CPA. But if I need help, he'll pay for it.

He is making plans for the future, which is great. He's thinking about traveling.

How is everyone else doing?
post #40 of 57
Hi, I am so glad to find this thread! Of course, now that I find it I am too tired to post. I'll try to get back in a few days. We're dealing with my mom, 78 who had a double knee replacement a few days ago. She has many issues with mild dementia, stroke, anger and verbally abusive behavior, and not so rational behavior. My dad is 82 and getting completely stressed out. My siblings and I are trying to work out how to help. My sister is coming into town tomorrow and we're going to be talking with dad and her doctor. I'd love to be able to have a place to bounce some ideas around.
Thanks!
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