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post #21 of 311
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I've been checking into the Food Stamps guidelines for our state (Missouri) -- and I'm a little puzzled. I'd always heard that they expect the SAH parent to be working or in job-training once all of the kids are school-aged. I went to check it out, to make sure the age hadn't been lowered or anything (our youngest turns 4 in March) --

And according to the information on their site, I guess there can be a SAHP in the home as long as there's a child under 18, without it interfering with Food Stamp eligibility!

Now I'm wondering if something's changed in the rules, or if I was previously told wrong, or if I'm missing something ...
Well, I've collected food stamps in 2 states and I have never heard of any working requirement. They just look at your gross income and family members. It's the reformed welfare program TANF that requires the working or job training -- even if you're 9 months pregnant or have a infant.
post #22 of 311
Hi there, I think I was on one of these threads a few months ago, but then lost it and wasn't sure where they were.

Anyway, I am a single mama of a 19 year old boy. I stay at home with him, but I also do childcare in my home for one 21 month old. I did have a second child that I was watching, but after today, he is not coming here. Not sure if my doing childcare qualifies me for this thread, but we are receiving assistance.

We live in Section 8 housing (Thankfully!) and also receive WIC, foodstamps, and Medicaid. I applied for heating assistance and will know at the end of this month whether we will receive it or not. I am pretty sure that we will, as according to HUD, we are in the "Etremely Low" income bracket. I hate that we have to receive assistance, but if I didn't, I would be living in a hovel working 50-60 hours a week with DS in daycare every minute of the day except for time spent in bed, and we would be living on ramen noodles and water. I am so grateful every single day for what we are able to have. (although I HATE all of the paperwork...)

Here in Vermont, we are so lucky with WIC. We still get home delivery of all of our foods. We don't have to take vouchers to the store or go to pick anything up. We don't get any organic options, but the milk is hormone free, the cheese is from Cabot, and the eggs are local, so I am happy with it. It helps so much.

My foodstamps just got cut because of a clerical error at the DCF office. I need to resubmit everything to them to hopefully get it raised for next month. We were receiving just over $300 a month (yippee!) for the two of us, but it was just cut to $170. It has been a struggle so far this month and we aren't even halfway through. I still have $100 on my card and I have bought a bunch of whole food type things to do some serious meal planning and cooking and freezing. I also have 10 meals in the freezer, so we should be able to make it.

I saw above a pp mentioned the small luxeries that you mamas allow yourselves. What are some of them? I always feel so guilty when I buy anything for myself of DS that we don't really "need", but I also realize that we are not spending nearly as much as some families who are on a "normal" income. An example recently is a toy cow that I bought for DS. I hadn't bought any new toys for him for quite a while (other than thrift store finds) and we had just visited a farm for the first time. He was so excited by the cows there, and I really try to keep his toys to a minimum and only let him have high quality wood/natural toys to play with. It means he has much less than some kids, but I feel like he really plays with what he has and he is happy. Anyway, I bought him a Holztiger cow that cost $23. I really felt like I shouldn't have been buying something so expensive, but he loves his cow so much. We had to sleep with it for a few nights and he has to bring it with him quite often when we go out of the house.

Anyway, thanks for having this thread, and I look forward to hearing from more mamas!
post #23 of 311
Hey Pumpkin Pie and WELCOME. Glad that you could make it. That is so cool having home delivery. We're not on WIC right now but will be back on in the future. I looked on our states site and we are supposed to have started getting the checks for the farmer's market. The lady that I spoke with was not sure but she said that it will be starting soon. I hope so.

Dh is making me look for some jars and jugs. He is bringing home my syrup and molassas. I will be making popcorn balls by the end of next week. Homemade fiddle faddle here we come.

I used to feel guilty about spending money or foodstamps on things that felt like luxuries. I don't have as much guilt now. I cook good food for my kids that they like and will make them homemade snacks. If every now and then we want to indulge in pizza or the china buffet we can.

Is anyone on any coupon trains? Does any one use coupons? I have been reading some blogs and have been getting some ideas here lately. I will try couponing again. I just hate the fact that they still charge tax on the coupons. Sometimes I don't bring cash with me to the store if I know that I'm only getting food items and nothing else.

love and blessings
angie
post #24 of 311
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Welcome, Kim! I'm glad you got your ds the cow!
post #25 of 311
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It's the reformed welfare program TANF that requires the working or job training -- even if you're 9 months pregnant or have a infant.
post #26 of 311
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Dh is making me look for some jars and jugs. He is bringing home my syrup and molassas. I will be making popcorn balls by the end of next week. Homemade fiddle faddle here we come.
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post #27 of 311
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Mylittlewarrior-why would you not be eligible for WIC because you child just turned 1-it's for women and children up to the age of 5, so both of your children would qualify.
The boys both qualify still, but "I" don't. And as a nursing mother you get a really big package. The boy's packages are a lot of milk and juice, and not very much of the other stuff.
post #28 of 311
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Is anyone on any coupon trains? Does any one use coupons? I have been reading some blogs and have been getting some ideas here lately. I will try couponing again. I just hate the fact that they still charge tax on the coupons. Sometimes I don't bring cash with me to the store if I know that I'm only getting food items and nothing else.

love and blessings
angie

I'm not on any coupon trains right now. I have been before, but they always seemed to get derailed at my house, and that wasn't fair to the other participants, so I don't do them any more. I do use coupons though. I just recently re-started with the Grocery Game. My last shopping trip came to a total of $122 before sales and coupons. After I put in my Kroger card and handed over the coupons it came down to $46.: The Grocery Game can seem expensive, it's $10 every 8 weeks for the lists, but it more than paid for itself in that first trip. (FTR, I had done this before, and always keep a fairly stocked pantry, so I can just pick out the very best deals, and then fill in with any immediate needs. Most people just starting out take a few weeks to accumulate coupons and get a stocked pantry before they start seeing that kind of savings. But you can save from day one. It's really great.) There ae a few threads about it floating around in this forum. They have a 4 week trial for $1 so you can see if it works for you.
post #29 of 311
Satori- I'vebeen in that situation too. But it's my mom asking me to bring expensive dishes to family gatherings, and stuff. I have tried to kind of bargain, and say, hey I can bring this instead, but that doesn't always work. It took a long time for them to understand how little we could actually spend on groceries, and that on Wednesday, I had already purchased what we needed, and there wasn't any money left for 'just a few small things, really' What can you do when it's family, YK?



well, I spent about 2 days on the phone trying to get our medicaid stuf figured out. It turns out there had been a mistake with mine, so that's fixed, and that DS1's was just a change in category, but they sent me a confusing letter anyway. So, it's all worked out, and we three- the boys and I, have medicaid for now. Whew. Tomorrow I take the baby in for hisvery first WIC appointment, an I'm going to see about being a peer breastfeeding support person.
post #30 of 311
MylittleWarrior-yeah I realized what you meant after my posting, I thought you meant you guys didn't qualify anymore.

I don't do coupon trains, I do use them though...you can save a boatload of money. I also don't do Grocery game, I have started really following sales and corresponding coupons with my purchases. It is nice to use them. I'm actually kinda addicted. For me I have been following sales at my local store religiously, I am having my Dad save coupon inserts and buying the paper weekly. My DH has been super impressed with the amount of $$ that I can save in a trip. Just this week alone I got a coupon off of contact solution for him, that is $3.50, that will make his solution 1/2 price. I also see that my local store has yeast on sale. I have a BOGO coupon for that. I have a bunch of others, a huge box in fact and I know what's in there...It really can be a substantial savings.
post #31 of 311

livid!!!!

I didn't get around to checking my mail since Tuesday so I just checked it... and I had a letter in there from the Office of Family Support telling me to come in for an appointment to discuss my "goals" for YESTERDAY!!! AHHH then I called the lady's number in there(who ISN'T my worker -- I've had like 8 workers in the past year and a half, so I don't know if I have a new one now or WHAT)... and this lady only works Mon through Thursday... and I'm afraid she has already canceled everything. It said if I didn't show up or call beforehand then all my benefits would be cancelled. This is so frustrating... I have worked so HARD to get these benefits and they keep pulling this crap. I have had to recertify I don't know how many times.

Oh and I checked on my unemployment that I filed for a couple of weeks ago and my weeks are being subtracted yet I am receiving $0 per week... I guess I'm not getting unemployment either. So hard to eek by these days...

And my kids are destroying my apartment. sorry to vent so much.
post #32 of 311
elephantine, That is so frustrating! I have had similar things happen with my worker numerous times and it is so irritating. They seem to take forever to get back to you after sending your paperwork in and then give you a day (if you are lucky) to respond to their decision or their appointment times. I realize the system is stretched to capacity, especially now, but it is still frustrating. My solution has been to go in to the office in person and just wait there until someone will see me. It often is a long wait, but it can keep your benefits from being cut off in a pinch.

Re Coupon Trains: I have never heard of these, and had to google it to figure out what it was. It looks like it could be worthwhile, but I am not positive. How do you get on one? Is there a site that you can sign up for one? I really need to start buying the Sunday paper again. I stopped for a while because it is expensive (only $1.75, but that is still a chunk of change that I can't afford to waste).

I also checked out the Grocery Game, and there was only one of our local grocery stores listed, so it wouldn't be worth it for me. There are three chain grocery stores in my area, so I just get their flyers each week and compare prices. There is also a dented box and can grocery store here that I go to occasionally and can get super deals at, but it does require planning a trip out that way as it is about a half hour away.

Heidirk, so glad you got your Medicaid straightened out! I have had mine cut off occasionally because of paperwork snafus, but thankfully DS's has stayed on. It can be frustrating, but I am so glad it is there. Good luck at your WIC appointment! What does a bf'ing peer counselor do? Do they give your name to new mamas who are bf'ing? That sounds like a great idea. I wonder if my WIC office does that? I will give them a call tomorrow to ask.

ibahippiemama, your popcorn balls and homemade fiddle faddle sound delish! Feel free to share the recipes here! :

On a side note, I ended care for one of my daycare boys today, so my income is going down again. I hate having to redo my paperwork for food stamps, rent (section 8), and Medicaid, but am grateful that they will all be increased/decreased in my favor. I also got paid today (a whopping $133!) and was responsible and paid off two bills. Woo Hoo! I also did a little stocking stuffer shopping at the dollar store. ($4)

Does anyone else shop at dollar stores? I just found some tiny DK books for DS's Christmas stocking that are minature versions of these for a buck! He loves the big versions and these will fit in the diaper bag for emergency waiting in line/waiting rooms. I was so excited!
post #33 of 311
One more question...

Does anyone know if it is ok to go to a food shelf for help if you are running low at the end of the month and food stamps are not covering your food expenses and your income is not covering everything? This is my first month of having a much lower food stamp allowance and I am a little scared that we may end up running out by the end of the month and although I do make enough to cover bills, I don't have all that much left over.

My local food shelf/pantry always asks if you are signed up for food stamps. I wasn't eligible for food stamps for a while because I had a retirement account (whole other thread there... but now that that is gone, and I am on food stamps, I haven't been back. I may end up needing some extra food help but am worried that I may be turned away because I already receive food stamps. Not sure what to do other than go in, wait forever with two small toddlers and then be turned away.
post #34 of 311
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Originally Posted by Pumpkin_Pie View Post
One more question...

Does anyone know if it is ok to go to a food shelf for help if you are running low at the end of the month and food stamps are not covering your food expenses and your income is not covering everything? This is my first month of having a much lower food stamp allowance and I am a little scared that we may end up running out by the end of the month and although I do make enough to cover bills, I don't have all that much left over.

My local food shelf/pantry always asks if you are signed up for food stamps. I wasn't eligible for food stamps for a while because I had a retirement account (whole other thread there... but now that that is gone, and I am on food stamps, I haven't been back. I may end up needing some extra food help but am worried that I may be turned away because I already receive food stamps. Not sure what to do other than go in, wait forever with two small toddlers and then be turned away.
It varies by area, I know here you can go 2x a year officially at Salvation Army here but its 1x year in the city but I know of people who go every month here. Don't forget about commodities http://www.fns.usda.gov/fdd/ which is usually a once a month thing. Not sure what they give out but people sure get excited about it.
post #35 of 311
In my area, the local food banks only ask because you qualify without any other information if you are on food stamps or other government assistance. It's the same with WIC and heating assistance.

Maybe someone can answer this question for me: Is my husband on my food stamp account or not? I ask because his income needs verified to recieve benefits but the ebt card is in my name. In my area, they need income verification for heating assistance only if you aren't recieving food stamps so hubby would need to submit income verification with the application. We qualify income wise anyway and we have the paperwork, so I'm not concerned but more curious how exactly that all works.
post #36 of 311
I use coupons, and most of the time I don't have to pay tax? I dunno. DH had one the other day where he had to pay tax, and we were not prepared. Oh well.

I have a question. For three people, DH, DD, and I, what is the average amount of Food Stamps, or does it matter on COL and other things? (I know it depends on income.) We get less than $150/month, and that doesn't even last 1/2 the month, even when I only buy discounted/coupon/sales items. When we got them last, in a different county, we got $300 some/month, so that confuses me even more.
post #37 of 311
Pumpkin Pie, I'll have to work out the recipes for you. I just throw stuff in. The popcorn balls and fiddle faddle are the same recipe. I use a bottle of corn syrup, stick of butter, and a touch of molassis. The new recipe is a quart jar of cane syrup (steen's is a good brand, comes in a yellow can), and a stick of butter. Boil the two togher until thick and combined. Pour over popped corn and toasted nuts. Mix well or best you can. My kids don't really care. I just pop corn like we always do. If some does not get mixed in it's all still good. For popcorn balls: butter your hands well and make balls. You just have to work quick. For the fiddle faddle: mix with nuts and spread on a well buttered pan. Let cool and enjoy. It never lasts long in this house.

love and blessings
angie
post #38 of 311
Joining back in. The other thread just got to be too much for me!

Pumpkin Pie, we're "neighbors" of a sort. We're over in NY in Plattsburgh. We were in VT (Middlebury & St Johnsbury) for several years. LOVED the WIC delivery in VT. I miss it so much. Going to the store with checks seriously stinks in comparision! Here's a link to the VT Food Bank: http://www.vtfoodbank.org/

For those of you who aren't getting WIC because you'll be BF, please contact your local WIC offices & check on their resources for BF moms. Ours has free trained BF counselors (including 2 IBCLC), manual pumps for moms who are at home or working less than 35 hrs/wk, electric pumps for moms who work FT, replacement pump parts, lanolin, disposable pads, hospital grade pumps, and lots and lots of educational materials. I'm in NY, so if anyone lives anywhere in NY you should definitly check it out.
post #39 of 311
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I have a question. For three people, DH, DD, and I, what is the average amount of Food Stamps, or does it matter on COL and other things? (I know it depends on income.) We get less than $150/month, and that doesn't even last 1/2 the month, even when I only buy discounted/coupon/sales items. When we got them last, in a different county, we got $300 some/month, so that confuses me even more.
I think the amount you get varies based on your income and family-size, as well as the guidelines for your state. I didn't know states varied from county to county! Is it possible that your income was different in that other county -- or that that county has a higher cost of living, and that was taken into account?

Dh is taking one of his vacation days today -- he was going to help me take our 3yo for her dental work, but we had to cancel because of her cold -- it's sedation and not safe to do if she's been congested as she has.

Anyhow, he and our 8yo are going in to apply for the Food Stamps. When he checked the guidelines online, for our income and family-size it looks like we'll qualify for about $150 a month. This is a blessing, since we'd lost our food stamps a while back when dh got his raise. So I guess they've adjusted the guidelines because of the increasing cost of food, at least in Missouri.

I sure think they should adjust the guidelines in Tennessee, too!

About the dental work -- this is one hard thing about Medicaid, even though it sure is a blessing to have it all covered. Though I gave dd2 the same dental care as dd1, for some reason she just has major problems. I'm praying it'll be better with her permanent teeth, and also that the decay won't spread to her permanent teeth because of the long delay ...

It hadn't spread (to permanent teeth) as of her checkup last Feb. or March. But it's twice now that we've had to cancel because of her having a cold. And our girls aren't normally sick -- it just so happens that she got a cold when the work was scheduled back in August, then she got another cold just before today's appointment -- so now it's been rescheduled for late January. I'm so prayerful that she won't just happen to get congested again and miss that one, too!

A week and a half ago, I'd woken with a sore throat and decided it'd be a good idea for us to try to stay in and get more rest 'til after the dental work, I was just so paranoid that dd was going to get sick, and she did in spite of my precautions. So I guess I won't try to be so "careful" this next time, and I'll just trust that when it's God's time for the work to get done, it will get done.

I guess one positive is that every 3 months it gets delayed, she's just that little bit older and better able to cope with the procedure.

On a positive note, I talked with the nurse who rescheduled dd's work yesterday, and explained that our doctor had complained because of the dental clinic's policy that a child has to have a physical within 30 days of any sedation dental work. Our doctor says Medicaid will only reimburse her for one physical a year, so she didn't get paid for the last physical she gave dd, or the one before that.

I even tried to find out the cost of the physical, thinking maybe we could come up with the money -- and she said she's forbidden to charge us because of the contract she signed with Medicaid. I'm kind of thinking it's time to change doctors, though this one is in very close walking-distance from us. I just felt so hurt that she griped at me, when she knew there was absolutely nothing I could do about it!

There was an article about her in our local neighborhood paper, talking about how she chooses to stay in our neighborhood, rather than starting a more lucrative practice in the suburbs, and she chooses to keep taking Medicaid patients, in spite of the inconveniences. I guess it may be an inconvenience to give a free physical -- but, seriously, we took up maybe 5-10 minutes of their time -- though of course we were there waiting for much longer than that.

Anyhow, since the dental clinic is part of our local children's hospital, I asked the nurse at the dental clinic if there might be a way for us to get the necessary physical done there, and she scheduled it for us and everything. I'm thinking I might just try to get our primary care provider switched to the children's hospital (they have a clinic for regular care for children, and another one for teens). It means a bus-trip for appointments, but it seems like a small price to pay.

I've heard (from one other non-vaxing family) that they're a lot nicer in their dealings with non-vaxing families (as long as we're matter-of-fact and just say, "We don't vaccinate," they know not to push the issue), whereas our current doctor read us the riot act 2 years ago when we started the girls' care with her.
post #40 of 311
I hope you can your dental issues taken care of, mamalmama. I'm terrified to take DS1 for his first dental appointment (which is why I haven't shceduled it) because I know he's going to freak out.


I've heard good things about a doc in our area, in regard to non-vaxing, and I'm really hoping that's the case because DS1 should at least get weighed and measured, and Milo should have a check up every now and agin for a while anyway. Weare blessed to be so healthy, or I'd have to have the vax discussion much more frequently.

WIC appt went fine, the lady who processed me told me that the allotment for exclusively BF'ing moms is the largest they offer. It certainly seems so, but I'm worried about eating so much tuna while bf'ing b/c of the mercury. DH will probably be eating tuna salad sandwiches a few days a week!

Milo is 9 lbs 14 ozs, and his head is now 15 inches around! He's only gaining about 3/4 oz each day, which is fine, but his big brother gained a lot fster than that. Everyone was interested in my babyhawk!


does anyone know how long I can hold off vaxing before WIC starts to get curious? When I recert they ask for his vaccination record, and I tell them we're delaying vaxes- but it's been a two and a half year delay!


I really NEED to see a dermatologist, but I don't know how that'd work with medicaid? The other option is some really expensive stuff I can only buy over the internet, and I can't do that just now. My psoriasis is driving me BONKERS!!!
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