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ITT I am selfrighteous and judgemental toward a friend. :shame:  

post #1 of 29
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Sometimes, like when I'm 40+2 pg and trying to buy the upteenmillionth baby shower gift for yet another friend, I do judge her. Which is silly, it's completely hypocritical, and I feel downright petty when I realize what I'm doing. But sometimes I still feel justified, even after I chastise myself. I mean, come on. I'm having my first baby, she's having her first baby just 7 weeks after me, I feel a little like I'm entitled.

Obviously I have strong ideas of what I want for my child, and have been very careful about everything little thing relating to this child. I've been careful with diet, fought battles to with my insurance to get coverage for the prenatal and birth support I feel is best, done copious amounts of reading and fastidiously screened every book, every rattle, everything that has come into my home, to ensure that they are all what I consider safe and nontoxic. That means that I bypassed big store registries and made my own, and as a result I have few "things" for the baby, including ONE plastic toy, a few wooden toys, and what are to me "the basics". I've been honest with people about how I feel about plastics and etc, and a surprising number of people have been overwhelmingly supportive.

So when I go into a store to buy a gift off of a baby registry, I already have strong opinions on every item I see.

I dunno, I know this person, and I was torn between getting her what she wants, and getting her what I know she needs, ykwim? I found myself getting more annoyed every minute that I looked at her registry. This is her first baby and they just bought a fixer-upper house, so I know she doesnt have a lot of spare $$. And to fill one's registry with toys and to have so few practical things on hand... Maybe I've just become the junk nazi ever since we crammed ourselves into this one bedroom, but darn it I DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF PLASTIC JUNK. I have no place to put it, and quite frankly, I feel like a lot of that stuff is unhealthy and possibly dangerous.

Then I remind myself that it's not about ME, it's about my friend.

But I have to say I still didn't get her what she asked for. My conscience would not allow it. Instead I got her astoundingly boring things like nipple cream and breast pads, to go with the lactation tea and burp cloth I made.

I want to just let it go now, but I dunno, something in me just feels like I'm better than my friend, and I hate that self-righteous part of me. I don't want to feel this way.
post #2 of 29
I know what you mean. You almost want to laugh. But rest assured that after the first week, or even DAYS her child is with her, she will realize how badly she should have put things like onsies, and open bottom nightgowns, and non bpa breast pump supplies on her reg, rather then stupid toy stuff the child wont even be interested in until about 4 months. And when she says as much to you, try not to laugh to loud.......
post #3 of 29
Yeah, this stuff is hard. I went through it with my first as well. I had a lot of friends pregnant for the first time at the same time and we had wildly different ideas about what was essential for the baby. I always bought more boring things off of the registry, too. Like once I bought a lamp in the motif of the baby's bedroom. I suppose that might still be in use?
Be prepared for upcoming conversations with friends about how they let their kids cry it out or stop breastfeeding at an early age solely due to their own convenience. I think it gets even harder then. Luckily there's MDC to discuss all this with likeminded mamas!
Hang in there and Good luck!
post #4 of 29
If my family and friends want to stuff their house with plastic crap, I don't understand it but I don't really care either.

What gets me is that they feel the need to constantly mock me for using slings instead of stroller systems, cosleep instead of cribs, extended breastfeeding, etc. You know the deal. I am like a sitting duck and they have a great time with it.

I really think they are emotionally invested in the idea that they have to have this stuff to be good parents.
post #5 of 29
Yeah, this is probably me. DH and I had NO IDEA what to put on our registry, but someone was throwing us a shower and we had to put one together so we had stuff on there like a rug for the nursery, a wooden block train, a wooden rocking horse, a crib that converts into a toddler bed, even wall art. To be fair, we also had a ton of useful baby clothes, a changing pad and cover, etc.

Don't be too hard on her. Sometimes you get caught up in the excitement and cuteness of baby shopping and while the stuff might not be useful right away, eventually she'll probably be glad to have it. And if not, maybe some other mama will after she donates it to charity.
post #6 of 29
I'm with you guys. I just don't buy the useless stuff and find good things or at least more useful stuff. My SIL put 6 carseats for her 2 brand new minivans on her registry (she had triplets), and I was appalled at the cost. Family was expected to buy them, and I just flat out said no to that kind of consumerism. I also wasn't even going to consider those bottle propping things, regardless of how "useful" they are. Many more things I didn't want to buy on the registry too!
post #7 of 29
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Originally Posted by nerdymom View Post
I want to just let it go now, but I dunno, something in me just feels like I'm better than my friend, and I hate that self-righteous part of me. I don't want to feel this way.
Popping in from the Oct DDC-

I had to giggle when I read your post. Rest assured, having a newborn will knock that self-righteous part of you right off it's high horse. I only say that because it's happened to me with each of my babies. You become more flexible and understanding that you would have imagine. I went out Monday in fact and bought a baby swing. Something *I* didn't see the need for a few months ago... no plastic arms for my baby. Well, after the first few times I had to do things like WIPE myself holding my sweet baby, I decided it might be a good idea to have something like that. I'm still hoping to avoid plastic toys all together but I'm glad to have my craigslist swing when I need it.

Good luck with your baby and upcoming birth!
post #8 of 29
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Originally Posted by Sheryl1678 View Post
If my family and friends want to stuff their house with plastic crap, I don't understand it but I don't really care either.

What gets me is that they feel the need to constantly mock me for using slings instead of stroller systems, cosleep instead of cribs, extended breastfeeding, etc. You know the deal. I am like a sitting duck and they have a great time with it.

I really think they are emotionally invested in the idea that they have to have this stuff to be good parents.
This is my feeling exactly! I keep my comments to myself about family members and friends but for some reason they feel like they can pick on me for the choices I make.
post #9 of 29
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I also wasn't even going to consider those bottle propping things, regardless of how "useful" they are.
Who in GODS NAME created a bottle propper? That is the most ridiculous thing I have EVER HEARD OF! They tell you NOT to prop the baby's bottle, but yet, someone developed a patent and someone else actually MADE IT? Im appalled!
post #10 of 29
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Who in GODS NAME created a bottle propper? That is the most ridiculous thing I have EVER HEARD OF! They tell you NOT to prop the baby's bottle, but yet, someone developed a patent and someone else actually MADE IT? Im appalled!
seriously, they should have a warning on said object "may cause lack of physical and emotional contact resulting in possible choking and lowered iq potential". jeez. i mean if you cannot breastfeed or need to use bottle sometimes fine, but seriously can't people take the time to hold and feed their newborns? they grow up fast enough!
post #11 of 29
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Originally Posted by Changed View Post
Popping in from the Oct DDC-

I had to giggle when I read your post. Rest assured, having a newborn will knock that self-righteous part of you right off it's high horse. I only say that because it's happened to me with each of my babies. You become more flexible and understanding that you would have imagine. I went out Monday in fact and bought a baby swing. Something *I* didn't see the need for a few months ago... no plastic arms for my baby. Well, after the first few times I had to do things like WIPE myself holding my sweet baby, I decided it might be a good idea to have something like that. I'm still hoping to avoid plastic toys all together but I'm glad to have my craigslist swing when I need it.

Good luck with your baby and upcoming birth!
Ha! My swing is great for when I take a shower. I put the swing in front of the glass shower door. I see nothing wrong with that at all.

However, my SIL who put her 2 week old baby (and of course continues the practice even now) in the swing, in front of the TV, for *hours* so she could get a break and do things around the house...um no. Not good use of a swing, imo.


I usually look for something on a registry that I think is needed, but if not I just buy what they put on it. Not my registry.
post #12 of 29
Popping in from Oct to chime in on this subject. I totally agree. At my baby shower, I opened up a gift from another new mom - she had given me 2 boxes of breast pads. At the time I was like, oh gee, thanks. But do you know what a godsend those things were/are? I didn't realize I would need them right away, or use them like crazy when baby and I had to leave the house. I think your gift is insanely thoughtful, and she will definitely appreciate your thought and foresight.
post #13 of 29
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Hey thanks guys.

I know I have made some unconventional choices, which most of my friends accept because I'm the "hippie" friend. But I have always been really good about not alienating my other friends with my actions, and I try extra hard not to judge ANYONE, even when I am judged. Normally I can tell myself "now Holly you are being really hypocritical" and I'll snap out of it. But I just keep on having these thoughts, and I feel bad about it.

I mean, she had Disney movies and a bunch of Baby Enstein DVDs, some of those Lamaze brand baby toys, really expensive stroller system, bouncer, "excersaucer", and something called a "piddle pad" (seriously, a "piddle pad" I remember that one distinctly 'cause I was like, "uh, ok it's only $8, but there's just no way I'm going to take THAT to a shower!" ), and of course the nearly $300 Medela electric double breastpump...I know she has way too many clothes, and some diapers and a Boppy. I would have gotten bedding but they still haven't picked a nursery theme.

AGH!!!

See, I still have that "I'm better that you" feeling. It annoys me. I hope you are right Changed, I hope that having my baby totally takes this feeling outta me. It's just not like me to think these things, it's completely contrary to what I believe. I don't like feeling hypocritical.
post #14 of 29
I think that your gift is great. I generally try to buy one thing off the registry and then add other things (that can be returned if they like unless they are handmade). When all else fails, I give books.
post #15 of 29
I'm with peainthepod. I got a lot of pressure from my mom to put a lot of merchandise on our registry for my VERY mainstream extended family to purchase. It can be really hard sometimes - I just didn't want to deal with having to explain to my great-aunt ethel why I wanted certain things and that she had to order it with a computer. She would have looked at me like I was nuts!

I got a lot of stuff I really didn't want/need but my mom said that I could return it and buy the stuff that I need. I figure with all of the stuff that I returned I have enough merchandise credit to buy babyclothes for 10 years! lol

Also, (just my two cents) the piddle pad is actually kind of cool. My friend has one and she said that it saved her from having to wash her car seat cushions after poo-explosions. Some silly things are good sometimes I guess.
post #16 of 29
I want to add that I was pretty against getting one of those ugly FP swings or bouncers too, until basically every new mom I spoke to assured me that it would save my sanity during the first several months of the baby's life. So we ended up with a bouncer AND a swing and man, they are ugly...
post #17 of 29
With DD we had a lot on our registry that you probably would have had a problem with then.. I had a Medela breast pump on it, I had to return to work and needed to pump. Bottles, pacifiers etc for the same reason. You might want to think about why she has it on there. A breast pump is a good investment anyway because you never know when you might need it (one of my friends babys ended up in the NICU and they didn't have one to loan her so she was very releaved to have her own).
As for toys/swings/bouncers, its all what the person wants and "thinks" they will use. I got a bunch of stuff I didn't register for and never used because people thought I had overlooked toys when I registered. A bouncer or swing is great for when you want five minutes to take a shower or make breakfest. DD hated the swing but the bouncer was a lifesaver when I needed to pee or make dinner. Especially since she hated being placed on the floor as much as she hated the swing.

I guess Im trying to say try to see things from her point of view. Yes its ok if you don't want to waste your money on buying it or if you want to get her something more useful, however, try not to judge her at the same time. i remember people commenting to me after seeing my registry that I would never succeed in breastfeeding because I had registered for bottles and they are too much of a temptation. DD is 21 months old and still breastfeeding. Shes going to be sensitive of your opinion just like you are sensitive of hers. I cried after my "friend" told me that about breastfeeding and went on to tell me that I had no idea how to take care of a kid because I didn't register for clothing (I had some already and knew no matter what clothing is something that everyone seems to buy).
post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by Barbie64g View Post
Who in GODS NAME created a bottle propper? That is the most ridiculous thing I have EVER HEARD OF! They tell you NOT to prop the baby's bottle, but yet, someone developed a patent and someone else actually MADE IT? Im appalled!
Oh, yes, and my ILs put all three in bouncy seats and prop bottles. They can even do it in the car, wonder of all wonders!
post #19 of 29
I always tend to buy the practical stuff for friends whether it is on her registry or not. I don't mind having the boring gift because I know it will be the most useful when the baby comes.

I had a small shower with DD1 with no registry. I got a bunch of blankets, some small toys, plack and play, and a clothes basket full of all the practical stuff. Let me tell you how much more thankful I was for that over everything else. I have always kept that in mind since.

What irritates me with registries is when all I see on there is the really expensive version of things. I mean, really, does a bassinet need to cost $150? The vibrating, heated, spinning lights thing is really overboard IMO. Or does the infant tub really need to drain itself and put a constant flow of fresh water in the tub for $50? kwim I refuse to buy things like that for myself knowing how excessive they are for what is really needed. I won't even consider it on a registry. While I don't agree with it, to each their own. It is just my choice not to buy it for them.
post #20 of 29
I totally know what you mean. I am embarrased to say that when I am in Target near the baby stuff and toys, I'm watching all the garbage that other parents are picking up for their kids.

I veiw registries as simple suggestions. To avoid seeming like I am pushing my parenting agenda on friends who clearly aren't into my ideas, I usually knit or crochet something for the baby. I'll also buy some board books to include with the new blanket, etc. People think that is very thoughtful and you don't have to compromise your principals.

All that baby crap really bugs doesn't it?
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