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post #1 of 32
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I hope this is the right place to post my problem. I need advice and everyone I can talk to is directly affected by our decision.

My DH and I desperately want to move away from where we live. I grew up in this area and after some years away for college and graduate school, we moved back for jobs in the big city nearby. We figured it was temporary because we love traveling, moving to new places, adventure (and my hometown is anything but adventurous). It has now been 7 years and we are still here. After a few years we had our first baby, then second (and now I'm pregnant with our third). We have slowly become more immersed in life here - my parents, 3 sisters and 1 brother all live within 20 minutes of us. We all have kids about the same age, spend quite a bit of time together, etc. I also have several friends from high school who live in the area and have kids, too. Sounds nice and cozy, right?

Sort of, except my family can be suffocating (I'm learning to say no, but it is a learning process!), the area in general is very conservative (think big SUVs, bigotry, "don't take my money to pay for people who are lazy" type of mentality). DH and I are very liberal and fairly crunchy and I have a hard time meeting like-minded people. My parents and siblings are all liberal, but I can't just spend all my time with them! Plus, it is super-expensive to live here. Housing prices are high for very little space or personality (think suburban sprawl).

So, we want to move. We want to move to Portland, Maine (about 12 hours away). We have no family up there, but see it as an adventure. My husband works from home, so he can do his job anywhere. We could buy a house for 1/2 the cost of our current one and we LOVE Maine (DH went to college there and we've visited a lot). The natural beauty, the culture, etc.

I've mentioned the possibility to my mom and she just gets angry, says "How can you even think of taking your kids away from their grandparents. cousins, aunts and uncles? They won't have close relationships with people who love them so much. We won't get to see them grow up, etc." My sisters just say "Please don't move!"

I know she is just working off strong emotions, and part of me wants to say "Whatever!" and just move, but I know she is partially right. My parents raised us across the country from their families and they often say they regret that decision. I never knew my grandparents.

Ugh! I am sick over this. I love my family, my sisters are my best friends (besides DH), but I feel really pulled between what we WANT and what we should do to nurture the larger family relationships. I have searched high and low for towns or cities a little closer that would satisfy our desires, but the closest I can find is 3-4 hours away.

Any advice??

Edited: I just want to add that we really can't afford to live in our house. We are planning to move to a new house in the spring, regardless. If we stay in this area we are going to have to buy a townhouse in a fairly personality-less area with not very good schools. If we move to Maine, we can afford a small single family home in a nice community with good schools.
post #2 of 32
Maybe the places you have found 3-4 hours away would be a nice compromise. Two years prior to getting pregnant, my dh and I moved across the country from our families. We get along with our families, but being so far apart has really allowed us to bond as our own unit. It has brought amazing strength to our marriage and really carves our identity as our own family. Despite all being fairly liberal, there are areas where we don't agree with our parents (who aren't crunchy) especially on how we will raise our children, and being far apart has put those issues really far in the background. We spend so little time together that we don't have the time for things to ever be unpleasant. Growing up, I lived across the street from my grandparents, and I have as many memories of being with them (if not more) than I do with being with my parents. I wouldn't trade that childhood. However, I have witnessed what being so close in proximity to my GP did to my parents' marriage, and even though they are still married, finding their own identities seperate from extended family is still a struggle. Living far apart I think is the best decision for my family, and I think living where you love to live and where you will be happy is what is most important.
post #3 of 32
Here's the thing.... if you don't move now... will you ever?

My family told me moving my kids would "ruin" them. I was never sure what they meant by that, but the kids are fine. They found new friends and do well in school.

The big minus is creating your new support system in the new city. Are you prepared to be lonely and homebound for a time because you haven't met folks and/or don't have a sitter? I have a friend who moved to a little town in Minnesota who was very lonely and depressed for years because she couldn't seem to meet like minded folks. It takes time to make new friends you can count on.

Keep thinking it through... you'll make the right choices for yourself.

Take care,
Philomom
who moved her family from a red state to a blue one two years ago
post #4 of 32
If you have the type of family that relies on one another (like you can have them watch your kids) I would definitely not move.

I say this as someone who has a fractured/addicted/abusive/dysfunctional family including my DH's.

We are utterly alone. My parents have never even been alone in the same room with my kids, never offered to take them places, spend time with them or do things with them. We are a burden. I've never once asked any of them to watch my kids or to even borrow a nickle because I know it would be done grudgingly or they'd make excuses and say no.

We moved away from them and discovered how lonely it is to be the ones with no family or support network.

Sure you can find friends, but honestly most people don't have the time nor inclination to be of service in a pinch.

I wouldn't move. I remember being a kid and once my grandparents retired (the last decent generation in my family aside from us) they moved to our town and all of my most precious memories are of my grandma and grandpa lovingly taking us places, showing us the world, discussing things with us and just there is something to be said for being a part of a family. It's special and hard to replicate.

My grandma is gone now and if I'd not been exposed to her on a near daily/weekly basis during my formative years I wouldn't have known her at all. She died two years ago and I cringe to even imagine not having had her during those years.

Christmas/Thanksgiving once or twice a year fly bys don't really cut it imo.

If you have good family stay close.
post #5 of 32
No advice, but for what it's worth, our closest family is 4 hours away, and we're perfectly happy.
post #6 of 32
Nothing wrong with being a bit adventerour and living in a new place, starting over.... can you do a "try out" move? Sounds like you have a nice situation/relationships with PEOPLE, but not so much with the PLACE. It may be hard to tell what is more improtant to you until you live the new life for while.
post #7 of 32
dh and i moved 3 years before i had lo... i'm super close with my mom (she's like a bestfriend) and my dad and i disagree about most things. i have 4 younger brothers, two of them followed me and one just moved back to be closer to my parents and he had a really hard time leaving his friends and old life behind.

it's hard to make a new social/support network any time you move. you don't have any one you know or trust to leave your child with in an emergancy (i'm lucky i have my one bro who now lives with us). it really helps bring you and your spouse closer together because you'll depend on each other a lot more.

in a way it's nice living accross the country because i can do things my way. i don't feel sufficated. we are constantly sending pictures of LO to family. and with the internet, you can set up video cam through instant message (it's free) and this will help keep everyone close.

all in all, i would make the move, 12 hrs isn't that bad. or the 3 hrs is a great distance because it's just far enough where they would have to call before "popping" over.
post #8 of 32
Have you thought about going to Maine for a couple of years, maybe you just need to get it out of your system?? Then you can make a more educated decision from there?

I have a similiar yet totally different situaion...

My DH and I moved from CA to GA 9 years ago. So we have family in CA (5 hr flight) and TN (7 hr drive). No one cared until we had the baby 21 months ago. Now everyone is sad we live far away and talk whistfully of us living closer. They all think if we lived closer they would see him on a daily basis, but then we would never see him. They are all in fantasy land, lol. We are going to compromise and move closer west, even though our dream is to live in D.C. It was nice to live on our own, doing what we want, but now is time to compromise. Go for it :
post #9 of 32
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Originally Posted by berry987 View Post
Any advice??
Oh may I say how lovely your plan sounds to me?

DH & I actually did just that... but about 5 years before we had our first child. We were running the rat race - commuting to NYC every day. Felt suffocated by our families (we both grew up & went to college in NJ, and all of both of our families live in NJ). Decided to move to Maine, bought our first house, started our own business. It was some of the most wonderful years of our lives. We moved back when DD was 6 months old - as much as we wanted to be away from family, loved our privacy, loved our home - we welcomed having family around - DH grew up not knowing his grandparents, and we didn't want that. We welcomed help with DD and knew we could grow & expand our business more easily in NJ - which we have, exponentially. And had another child in the meantime.

The thing is....

We both think back on Maine with such fondness. We miss it terribly. It's the best place in the world. Clean air. Clean water. Lots of land. Great hiking, near by! Good people. And we really do love the snow too. Most of the winter, anyway.

But in order to move back, we'd have to relocate our entire business. And uproot our kids. Move them away from their grandparents who are regular figures in their lives. Try to convince even half our workforce to relocate 10 hrs North. It's daunting.

I would say that without the business we'd probably do it.

And you already know Maine; you lived there through the winter, right (while you were in school?)... heck, yeah, do it.
post #10 of 32
Dh and I moved several times in the early years of our marraige and it was life changing. We rented, did no biggie investments. We've lived in a few different states and on two coasts, plus traveled for an extended period of time overseas.

Not only do we not regret a single second of our various adventures we know it made us grow as individuals and as a couple, plus it gave us wonderful experiences to share with others, esp our kids.

Now we live near some family and it's wonderful.

However, it was critical to us to experience life in a different way, beyond our relatives.

Is there a reason you can't rent in Maine for a time? If you love, you stay, if you feel, wow what a great adventure, but lets be closer to family, no loss and you go go home.

Further, we know we are not done with our traveling adventures. We're put for now, the kids are thriving; but we absloutely want to experience other communtities in the future.
I think you should have adventures.

Absolutely go.
post #11 of 32
If you don't like it, you can always move back. It doesn't have to be forever!
post #12 of 32
Well, I have to say that I understand your dream to go somewhere you and your dh both like. My hubby and I did that exact thing when I was 7 1/2 months pregnant. We moved 5000 miles away from my entire family. I LOVE where we live now...the weather could be a bit nicer.

However, after my father's last visit, we decided that we were going to move back. I have one way plane tickets in two weeks for my son and I. My hubby will be coming shortly afterwards.

It is a bittersweet move. However, I really feel that family is so important. It's really hard to find any help when your so far away from family. I got super sick and couldn't watch my son for over week and my hubby had a hard time with work. If you need to do anything with your husband alone, your going to have to find a sitter. If your financially stable, than I'm sure you can hire a nanny or sitter anytime but it is quite expensive.

Honestly, I think it might help to spend some time counting your blessings. I find that my hubby and I tend to get swept up in the things we don't like and tend to take the good stuff for granted, yk. So, even though your family has to downsize into a townhouse, try and look at it more positively...like affordability, chance for community, a new place to decorate, a new garden

Oh, and making such a big move is very expensive too. We spent over 5k JUST on the move when we went across country.
post #13 of 32
I'm sad right now because I live far from my daughter because of work but somehow I did get by with the situation since I try to go to her on weekends.
post #14 of 32
When you say 12 hours away, I assume you mean by car? We live 8 hours drive from dh's family and 24 hours flight away from my family. We see his family twice a year and mine about every two or three years. It is sad not to be closer and we envy people with grandparents in the same city, but you have to follow your dream and make a commitment to visit as much as you can. I've found the distance makes being with my family very precious and fun and exciting and there's almost never any feeling of conflict.

How about you move and promise that you'll spend some of the money you save with your new life to return home twice a year minimum (or once, or three times, whatever is doable for you)?
post #15 of 32
We live across the country form all extended family. I would say that its doable but difficult to be away from family. You do need a support network, so move with intentions to get involved in the local parenting stuff that floats your boat. For me, its vital to have other adults to interact with. I have friends I can call to chat with and know people at most events. We have neighbors and friends to share meals and holidays with.

My DH and I never have time away from our daughter. You might think "oh, thats not so bad", but really evaluate how much time your kids spend with extended family. You will lose all of that time, even if it just you dropping your two off with grandma while you have an appointment. Still, it would be nice to not have to go through tremendous efforts in the case of my doctor appointments.

Your kids have a relationship with family. As a parent, you can make the effort to create bridges for your kids until they can make their own initiatives with their family. We do weekly video conferences with my ILs and my toddler and I mail my DDs paintings to family from time to time. I make a point of putting photos online frequently to share with family. We talk about our family a lot. We also visit and host visitors regularly.
post #16 of 32
I would also consider your children. What ages/temperments are they? Would they be excited to move?
As a child I was very sensitive. My parents moved enough so that I had already gone to 4 schools by the time I was in 3rd grade. I really believe that this added to my shyness and insecurities as a child. For a child that finds new situations difficult, being thrown into a new one regularly is really tough.
We also lived away from all extended family. I never knew my grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. As a child, this didn't bother me at all. It was just the norm.
Although I find some faults with my current community, and feel that there are ones out there that are more suited to me, I have no plans to leave. I want my children to experience stability, and want them to know their whole family.
Tough decision! Good luck!
post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by ErinBird View Post
We live across the country form all extended family. I would say that its doable but difficult to be away from family. You do need a support network, so move with intentions to get involved in the local parenting stuff that floats your boat. For me, its vital to have other adults to interact with. I have friends I can call to chat with and know people at most events. We have neighbors and friends to share meals and holidays with.

My DH and I never have time away from our daughter. You might think "oh, thats not so bad", but really evaluate how much time your kids spend with extended family. You will lose all of that time, even if it just you dropping your two off with grandma while you have an appointment. Still, it would be nice to not have to go through tremendous efforts in the case of my doctor appointments.

Your kids have a relationship with family. As a parent, you can make the effort to create bridges for your kids until they can make their own initiatives with their family. We do weekly video conferences with my ILs and my toddler and I mail my DDs paintings to family from time to time. I make a point of putting photos online frequently to share with family. We talk about our family a lot. We also visit and host visitors regularly.
this.
post #18 of 32
Thread Starter 
Thank you all so much for the replies. It is really nice to read about people who have moved away and don't feel like they or their kids are "missing out" on being close to extended family. We are still struggling with this, but the people who said "go have an adventure" remind me that we can always come back and maybe what I am craving is just getting away for awhile.

My parents do offer some help with the kids, and that will be gone if we move, but I have always felt like that "help" is so loaded it may not be worth it. My parents are loving and giving people, but they have a lot of problems (health, financial, emotional) - none of which put my kids in danger at all but drain me so much emotionally that I feel empty when I leave their house. My sisters are a great support system, but we spend so much time talking about our parents and dealing with their issues that I feel drained even being with them.

I think one of the main issues I am struggling with is guilt. My parents are not well, but they refuse to get help for themselves and really rely on their kids/grandkids to brighten their spirits and make things better. On one hand I feel indebted to them for a wonderful, healthy childhood, but I feel like they don't take care of themselves and have resigned themselves to being unhappy. And I don't want to live with that all the time anymore.

I think I might be answering my own question. It is nice to air things a bit here on MDC and get some fresh perspective.
post #19 of 32
I just wanted to add my .02 cents

We just moved away from family (florida to colorado) and it has completley devistated my family.

I regret it.

My kids hate me, and eachother, my parents health is failing (I think partly from not having their grandkids there 3 x a week) and I am so stressed being all by myself all the time w/ my kids.

It wasnt worth it for our family.
post #20 of 32
gosh you have a baby due round the corner. i am sure that is surely going to help you make up ur mind.

it sounds like you really need the break. maybe you guys could visit once a month and maybe spend the weekend where your family is. that might be a good excuse to get the whole family together for a get together and your parents might not mind it so much.

aaaaargh for guilt trips our parents put us through.
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